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FOXNEWSW The Five May 1, 2018

Majority of those questions dont focus on the underlying premise of the special counsel which was to focus on the issue of collusion with the russian government. There has been over a year of investigation. Theres been dozens of witnesses, thousands, millions pages of documents provided. A zero evidence. Not a shred of evidence of collusion between the Trump Campaign in the russian government. Kimberly ally Alan Dershowitz thinks theres a strategy designed to trip up President Trump. The questions are inartfully drawn. They are written as openended questions. They are designed to let him ramble and talk, and i suspect that is the strategy of the special counsel because they know that they be President Trump President Trumps weakness, if they were to ask him direct, tough questions to which he can answer yes or no, that might not give them the advantage they are seeking. Kimberly dershowitz discussing the strategy that he thinks is being employed. Ask the openended question so he can give a long and lengthy answer and there may be some details in there to trip him up. Dana i dont know. I think they are professional enough to know may be they have something. Maybe they dont. None of us really know but i think yes, the questions were openended. As i understand it, its really unusual for anyone to be given a list, especially 44 or 49 questions, however many it was, beforehand. I could see why they are openended. If you started providing all the questions that you would want a yes or no answer to, then that would look a little weird too. This is a range of topics that we want to go over with him. Many of these could be a wolf in sheeps clothing. I had a lawyer on the 2 00 show today. It could end up being something where you dont want to have your client do an interview. I think thats possibly the strategy behind the leak. I dont think this leak came from the mueller team. I think it came from somebody either associated with the legal team or Something Like that. To say you know what can i get it out there. Let everybody Start Talking about it and then either, for the lawyers to be able to save mr. President , everybody thinks you shouldnt do an interview with mueller. Try to get him to agree. Kimberly all right, greg, how do you see it . Greg i think the leak came from fox friends. Treasure trove. We keep hearing the phrase treasure trove. This is a treasure trove. May be. But it might be a treasure trove for republicans because if youre going to be counting on winning the house, i dont know if this russian stuff is going to help you. I think over time this is becoming a squalid discretion distraction. I think trump should say we will answer these things in writing and then beat people over the head with it. When you look at whats going on in the world, what is missing . What are we not say now that we used to see doing the five . Isis videos. Almost every week we saw an isis video. For months, we talked about the Nuclear Threat of north korea. These are two existential threats missing from the newsfeed. I do think the media is completely unprepared to report trumps successes. They dont have it in their toolbox. You have two major things missing and you dont know what to report, so you focus on pornography and your focus on collusion. Collusion which is falling apart and has been falling apart. Now its going to become about obstruction. They dont have it in their toolkit so they are left doing this. Whats the end result . I dont know what they want. If you impeach a president in the middle of some really historic achievements, history will not be kind to you. The voters will not be kind to you. No one will be kind to you. Kimberly interesting. You are saying the media has got a very empty box. Snapon tools. Snap off media. Snapon bias. Greg snapping turtles. Jesse they dont care if he fails. I think they are more worried about him succeeding, because when trump succeeds, it shows a nonpolitician can come in and rewrite the game. I am terrified of these questions, kimberly. I looked at them last night. I dont think mueller has a case against the president but its clear he is building a very, very deadly serious case against the president s. I wouldnt go near Robert Mueller with these questions. If you answer these questions under oath, you are going to be impeached. This is very, very dangerous. Heres why. Half a dozen of these questions are about his tweets. Greg [laughs] jesse if you can get indicted for tweeting something, thats crazy. I think mueller is trying to criminalize the exercise in president ial power. Look at this. The flame thing. They asked one question. Did you discuss pardoning flynn . Is that illegal . Its an obstruction case, lets be honest. They are going after flynn. You cant come as a transitional officer, talk to counterpart in russia . Every administration does that. Why is this criminal . Look at the comey stuff. The dinner, the phone call, what he was thinking when he fired comey. Its about a thought crime. In order to show obstruction, you need to show corrupt intent. If Hillary Clinton deleted 30,000 emails after they were subpoenaed and comey couldnt find intent there, i dont see how they can find it with President Trump. Sessions. They are asking about jeff sessions. You tweeted he wasnt tough enough on hillary, what did you mean . Its like a therapist in a room with a client. They dont sound they are trying to get into the mind of the president , and thats a dangerous place to be for a number of reasons, especially when youre trying to prosecute these thought crimes, process crimes, like perjury or objection. Look at the collusion case. Its about the meeting at trump tower. Remember, this lawyer comes in, says she has dirt on hillary, she ends up having nothing and wants to discuss adoption. They kicked her out of trump tower in 15 minutes. But guess what, right before she goes into trump tower, she meets with the founder of fusion gps, they guy behind that dossier. Who granted her an extra ordinary be said to come to the country at the last second . Loretta lynch. Mueller hasnt even interviewed the russian lawyer. He hasnt even interviewed her yet. The only thing i dont understand is they are asking a question about Paul Manafort and maybe he reached out to the russians are the russians reached out to him, thats new information that i hadnt seen. Thats pretty alarming but most of these questions, danger zone. Greg quote kenny loggins. Kimberly juan, theres a litany there that jesse went through. He is talking about, they didnt interview the lawyer. She spoke with people from the fusion gps before going in. Looks like there was some kind of meeting of the minds there, intent to try to go and entrap somebody. Whats going on without an why isnt mueller following and connecting the dots . Juan what, shes not meeting to discuss what she was meeting to discuss with donald jr. Which was apparently dirt on Hillary Clinton. Of course, we know that campaign should not have been involved where they should have called the fbi that said somebody is trying to interfere, foreign power, Foreign Governments. Jesse hillary paid for a Foreign Government to interfere. Juan thats not true. But let me continue for the moment. Jesse we have the money trail. Juan dealing with the ongoing negotiations over whether or not mueller gets to talk to donald trump. So you had john dowd who was the president s lawyer saying dont ever talk to this guy. It will trip you up. We know you are given to hyperbole and sometimes fabrication and you will be caught up in lying. Dont do it. Trump was not listening to john dowd. Incomes Rudy Giuliani who last week met with mueller, has worked with mueller in the past for lots of talk today about who leaked it. Sorry to say much of it is about Rudy Giuliani is the new guy, the new player on the block. What would giulianis intent be in linking the document . You heard some of my colleagues say they think its an effort to put pressure on trump so that trump says i am disgusted with all of this. Im never going to do this. If i add several lawyers are saying today if, in fact, it was trump or a trump surrogate who leaked it, that may in fact contribute to an obstruction of justice case. It gets crazy. The idea is that the majority of the questions relate, as you were saying, just succumbing to obstruction of justice. Its not to say that its the effort to try to prove collusion is now defunct. To the contrary. You point out theres the outreach element, Paul Manaforts outreach. The question about flynn having discussions with sergey kislyak, the russian ambassador. Not while the other guys in office. You do not undercut American Foreign policy. Jesse you cant get in touch with your counterpart . Juan you can get in touch and introduce yourself but you dont have discussions about sanctions. Youre also saying people are saying if trump leaked it, theres a problem. If trump leaked it, then where do we go with this . I think the answer is that trump never talks to mueller. Greg can i do something no one else will do . I would like to connect the entire story to iran. How does one do that . Whether it is mueller, collusion, or iran, all of it is about president obama and his feverish fanatical commitment to preserve his legacy. He made common cause with putin. Thats the real collusion because boudin to get to iran to keep the iran deal. The redline didnt happen because of syria and russia and putin. When trump got elected, it threw everything into disarray. President obama was not prepared for that to happen. Hes thinking around deal and he is thinking what about my legacy in general . The machine gets back to working to defend his legacy. The machine starts. Obviously obama knew about the tarmac meeting. He knew about the dossier. He knew about the clinton investigation. He knew about the fisa war and sprayed if he didnt know about that stuff, what the hell was he doing . Juan in your opinion, obama can never win. Greg he is responsible for all of this. Impeach obama. [laughter] i built a time machine while i was watching kanye. I am going back to impeach obama. Juan what about clinton . Impeach clinton. Lock her up. Greg i would impeach bill. Kimberly what about the peace prize . All right, greg. Roseanne barr has a very direct message for all those knocking her support for President Trump, and its coming up next. Stay with us. Clusive resin, you get a strong repair that you can trust. Plus, with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you. 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Basic. Do i look basic . Nope which is why i have xfinity xfi. Its super fast and you can control every device in the house. [ child offscreen ] hey lets basement. And thanks to these xfi pods, the signal reaches down here, too. So sophie, i have an xfi password, and its daditude. Simple. Easy. Awesome. Xfinity. The future of awesome. Jesse Roseanne Barr is refusing to back away from her support of President Trump and using some colorful language to fire back at critics. People that arent so happy as well, if you say you are supportive donald trump. Yeah, people are mad about that. But you know, i dont give a [bleep]. Everybody has to choose for themselves according to their own conscience who they thought was the lesser of two evils. I am not going to put anybody down who didnt vote like me. This is america. Its a free country. You know, when you weigh it all together, i just felt like we needed a whole new thing all the way. Jesse her trump support isnt the only thing that has the left riled up. Liberals are telling kanye west to shut up after his comments about the president. Here is congressman Maxine Waters, no relation. Sometimes kanye west talks out of turn and perhaps sometimes he needs some assistance in helping him to formulate some of his thoughts. We dont think that he actually means to do harm, but we are sure he really understands the impact of what he saying not sure. He should think twice about politics maybe not have so much to say. Greg, i have to start with maxine. Has trouble formulating his thoughts . Greg she was right in the front part and wrong in the last. He does talk out of turn, and we should all be talking out of turn. Thats what happens when you talk out of turn. He actually left the box that she wanted him in, and she is saying you really shouldnt do that. You should really stay exactly say exactly what we expect you to say. Thats what happened. The reason why people are upset with roseanne. Its not like the liberal celebrity is pushing Climate Change on you. Everybody gets that. Whats a celebrity says something thats not part of the liberal world, all hell breaks loose. If you saw kanye west today. Him and candace owens, it was insane. It was one of the most vibrant discussions and its necessary to hear this stuff because you dont hear it because the Entertainment Industry is so uniform and they expected to live by a certain kind of belief system. Its refreshing. I thought the way she swore. I dont like people swearing for the sake of swearing but that was very natural. Jesse she dropped that pretty effectively. Greg says Entertainment Industry is pretty uniform, also the media industry. Probably hollywood. Dana i think entertainment way more so than media. Jesse when people get out of line, get back in line. Dana over the weekend, jesse, i read a novel. A reread a book i read as a kid, a wrinkle in time. I am sure you remember it. I try to remember, why did i read that book over and over again as a kid . What we teach children. What parents try to teach children is you shouldnt be individualistic. You should embrace your independent thoughts. The whole book is about nonconformity and rejecting being the same. Why are you laughing . Greg im not. Dana are you laughing at me . Paranoid. Greg i was listening. Dana we teach children that at some point it is turning around. Gregs segment in the d block is more of this. It is spreading like a disease. Its why its important to remember the stories were taught as a kid, which is being different and expressing yourself is to be encouraged in america. Jesse why cant you tolerate difference, juan . Juan i dont think this is about difference or nonconformity or jumping out of a box. I think this is about having a thought thats not properly formed, and thats why he heard Maxine Waters say he needs help formulating his thinking. We all want new ways of thinkin thinking. For the light to turn on, say hey, thats a great idea. It will solve americas problem. But what you get from kanye west is, where did that come from . He says i am a trump supporter because i was in the hospital he said come on over and you say what is that have to do with anything . He has no answer for that. Then you say oh, but its about blacks all thinking in the box. Do you think black people cant think for themselves and dont have the capacity to say is this good for our community . Good for me and my family . People come to that on the basis of real substantive action, taken or not taken by the person you are discussing, donald trump. I think its kind of insulting to black americans to say kanye says something and now oh, gosh. I dont think you are kanye fans after katrina going after bush. I dont think you were big kanye fans. Now everybody on the right, oh, kanye, kanye. Greg he just came out in favor of gun control. I am still okay with him. Jesse seeing low black unemployment, lower food stamps, shootings down in chicago. Things are getting a little bit better under his presidency. Will he get any credit in the black community and for that . Kimberly i believe and i hope he would. People can see and feel tangible results whether you see crime is down or your street feel safer or the job market has improved, the economy, the numbers in terms of people being able to provide for their families, feeling a little less tightening of the belt in terms of trying to really hold back money or worry about finances et cetera. People care about safe communities and their children being up to go to school. They care about being able to buy groceries at the end of the weekend celebrate family birthdays and things like that. Thats what everybody cares about universally. No community should be left behind. At the gets important to acknowledge the inroads the president is making in the black community and trying to help with minority communities. Juan quickly, something youre saying. Bob johnson, the billionaire creator of black entertainment television. He was on tv praising President Trump. Nobody reacted to him. You know why . He he said specifically he was thrilled with the lower unemployment numbers. Yes, started under obama and continued. Jesse why did the Congressional Black Caucus it on their hands when they announced it at the state of the union . Next, we go live to West Virginia where the stage is set for the Fox News Channel first primary debate in the Midterm Election season. With expedia you could book a flight,

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