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Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. Democrats warned about in america that actually punishes border jumpers. And they are never happier on the left than when they are using kids as political bonds. Pawns. Ive heard of the stories with i. C. E. Yearold infants being reported, the judges, its almost chuck e. Cheeses uses things like this to check parents and their children when they are there. Laura ok. With that absurd analysis, vermont would be better off with chuck e. Cheeses mascot as one of their senators. Oh, my gosh. Chuck e. Cheeses does a better job of Keeping Parenting heres a i. C. E. Official, attempting to introduce this concept called applying the facts to the law. To those democrat senator from hawaii, mazie hirono. Americans Civil Liberty Union . Nowadays illegal immigrant Civil Liberties union. Meanwhile, we are caring for these children in the u. S. Taxpayers are footing the bill. But who cares about these facts. When peddling emotions, dripping with concern, is so much easier. Melania trump went to the border and now these empty and asked these empty questions about how and when these families will be put back together. She doesnt care shes planning christmas at the white house. Are you idiots running this country . You seem like Child Abusers to me ask any doctor, ask any Child Welfare specialist,ask any psychiatrist, ask yourself, is this abuse . This is abuse laura that was abuse just watching that. You ever notice how the empathy, though, just runs one way . Its never the same kind of empathy for the families victimized by violent illegal alien crime. Or dwi deaths because of Illegal Immigrants. Or drug trafficking. Gunrunning. Never any empathy for americans who have been pushed out of their jobs in the workforce for cheaper illegal labor. B never any empathy for i. C. E. Agents, who have their reputations smeared or lives threatened, for just doing their jobs. Our commitment to consistent and fair enforcement of the law is demonstrated on a daily basis by the integrity, the unbiased professionalism, and the compassion of the Men And Women Of Cbp Exhibit toward the aliens we encounter, particularly toward the most vulnerable. We do not believe our humanity behind when read report for duty. Laura that was a great line. Americans are just a lot smarter. S than the left and their Media Poodles think. Americans understand that we are not a country without borders. Of course we have compassion. That is why we are taking pretty good care of them, all things considered. They are not with their families but they are being fed, clothed, doctors appointments, entertainment, sports, schooling, interpreters, lawyers. Te that is not nothing. And americans will not be guilted into supporting politicians who put the interests of illegal aliens ahead of our own citizens. Here is why congressman ron desantis will be the next governor of florida. Sa he gets it. We can fight illegal immigration [cheers and applause] all we got to do is enact everify and stop Sanctuary Cities we want maximum Border Security and respect for our heroes, i. C. E. , border patrol, and Law Enforcement, and we are going to have tremendous Border Security that will include the wall that will include the wall. Laura the applause went on and on last night. The biggest Applause Wind when the subject of immigration came up. Look, in my mind, its actually sad, its really sad to see what happened to the party of fdr and john f. Kennedy, the democraticw party. On this issue and so many others, they used to believe america was worth defending. Her laws, her constitution, the declaration, her borders, her history. Now their most vocal voices believe it is time to destroy that old order and replace it with something closer to socialism. But we are not about to let that happen. Ngis and that is the angle. Joining me now for reaction is tom homan, the former acting director of the i. C. E. Mr. Homan, thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate it. No problem. Laura i got to tell you, when i seeWhats Going On in portland, oregon, beautiful portland, a lot of history of political activism, thats fine, this is not your ordinary political activism. Whats happening there that the American People are not seeingol because the media will notha adequately cover this story . During the time i saw your clips earlier, and chris kramer is right. The mayor has refused to taker action on those folks that have illegally prevented us from doing our jobs by shutting our building for over over a week. How many child molesters, predators, werent arrested that week . How many criminal aliens, aliens would enter this country illegally and commit yet another crime werent arrested that week . A lot of criminals are now walking the streets of portland that would have been arrested that week. The mayor turned his back on the citizens of portland for his own political ambitions. Ou laura now, chris crane was talking about the antifa infiltration, or some would say takeover of this protest. Are the runofthemill, kind of millennial protesters, with the magic marker signs, and the black mask people, kind of working hand in glove there from what you are gathering . Yeah, i watched video of the portland office showed on forre days. Showdown for several days. Antifa was there. In a matter of fact, they hungr their antifa flag up over laura whoa. Whoa. Whoa. They took down u. S. Flag, they climbed the building, they took on the u. S. Flag, and they replaced it with an antifa flag . Yes, maam. I. C. E. , the first thing they did when they took a Building Back, the patriots raised the Building Back up. Th laura only thing i can think about it is when isis was rolling through parts of iraq. They were going to those christian villagers in mosul and so forth. They were knocking down those churches, taking up the cross, and raising the isis flag. Its a form of domestic terror. Its pathetic, Whats Going On in portland. I dont know who is worse than that mayor or the mayor in oakland, philadelphia, the whole bunch of them right now, who have never accepted this president , and they will put their own political ambitions ahead of the Public Safety of their citizens. I want to remind the portland mayor, because im sure hell hear about this, these i. C. E. Employees, are also tax payers and citizens of the city of portland. He has a duty to protect them. Laura zephyr teachout, interesting name, democratic candidate for a new York Attorney general, calls to abolish i. C. E. I. C. E. Has to be abolished and as Attorney General, i will continue to speak out against i. C. E. , i will prosecute i. C. E. For their criminal acts. We have stories of consistent abuse. , the idea that we could call this Law Enforcement is a real offense to the idea of law itself. Laura a real offense. I think shes mixing up i think she means offense. Thats okay. Ive never seen that video but now im more irritated than i was when i walked in here. That Attorney General laura t candidate. Candidate . I hope that is as far as she gets. Look, prosecute i. C. E. Agents . I. C. E. Officers and agents have taken more than 5,000 criminal aliens up the street in new york. That walked out of there sanctuary jails. I. C. E. Has done more for Public Safety in that state in their own governor has. I. C. E. Officers on the northern border have shut down opioid trade and laura but they say, tom, the reason theyre upset is because you are separating families, you are focused on deporting these families, when you should be focused on the Illegal Immigrants. They are conflating border patrol, hhs, detainment centers, and i. C. E. They are putting them in one big pot. T. Pa so theyre saying, well you could do a better job if you werent focusing on these poor children. Let me tell you about separating families. Watch the hearing and i was quite disturbed by some of the questions by democrats. They kept wanting to put the blame on Border Patrols and i. C. E. We have a process, weve been separating families for decades, first of all. , laura decades. Decades. They want to blame somebody . Congress need to look in the mirror. I have been up on the hill several times along with the head of cdp and cis talking about the loopholes, if they want these folks to see a judge and claim asylum, we do, too. There is one way to guarantee to see a judge is to keep it in a Family Residential center. They dont want to do that. They refuse to fix the loopholes, the Attorney General did what he had to do operationally to defend our borders. The Attorney General did exactly what he should have done. Laura Zero Tolerance is the way to go. He was right. We have a Runaway Judge situation in this country. They are acting as super legislators. A judge in san diego, he ordered during the unification stop, the dna testing, when we did the dna testing, 55 and 7 5 to 7 were not the parents. If you bring that to 2500 people, how many children do we have to release them to people that want their parents becausec that judge decided that dna wasnt important. Laura and 20 of kids were not brought across by their parents theres 10,000 children in custody, hhs that were separated by their parents who hired criminal organizations to put their credit in the trunk of a car and smuggled into united states. At that is child abuse. Mu laura who are the parents who send their kids across the border alone . What kind of parent is at . The administration of putting your kid in the trunk of a car and smuggling to united states. Laura tom homan, hey, great to see you. We miss you at the homeland. Im in the fight. Laura good for you. Bob mueller is the mayor to make it significant concession to the trump legal team. Hes agreed to reduce the number of questions for President Trump and a potential interview from his initial list of 49. Mueller is also willing to accept some answers in writing, though he wants Oral Ancestorac answers to others. Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani responded to the tugofwar over an interview earlier today. They sent us a proposal. We responded to that proposal. De it took about ten days and yesterday, we got a letter back. We are in the process of responding. At the end of it, they should render their report, put up i guess, Put Up Or Shut up, what you got . We have every reason to believe they dont have anything. Ut laura joining us now to analyze, alan dershowitz, author of the book, the case against impeaching trump, along with sol wisenberg, from the whitewater investigation. Professor dershowitz, what you make of this development . The supposed concessions. They dont seem like huge concessions to me but nevertheless down from 49 questions, some in writing. Does this change the calculus . I dont think so. Its not about quantity. Its all about quality. All he has to do is ask one question, what was your motive, why did you fire comey, or why did you ask comey maybe to go easy on flynn . All they want to do is get him to say in a context where he would be charged with a crime, something that is controversial, and something that somebody else will come in and testify and say, no, he told me something different. No, he told me that his motive was this or that. Motives are so vague and subjective. And you can be charged with lying to prosecution officials, even if you tell the truth. If there is another witness who comes in and gives a different account and the prosecutor is trying to get you. They want to put you in perjury trap and believes or says he believes the other witness whotr may not only be singing but he may be composing in order to get a better deal, youve walked into a perjury trap so in the end, i dont think his lawyers are going to let President Trump testify orally at all. Look, the president may get his way. Laura yeah. He says he wants to testify, but no lawyer is going to walk his client into a perjury trap. Laura tonight, the new york times, sol is reporting that the president is pushing for an interview with mueller against the advice of counsel. I dont know if this is kind of you know, theyre playing around here on this and its good p. R. Or if thats the real deal, but lets pretend for the moment thats real. Your reaction . I think it is suicidal. I think its idiotic. I agree with the professor. Here is the real piece here. The real key here. Based on everything we know, they dont have anything close to an Obstruction Case on the president. But it is much easier, in addition to the stuff that Professor Dershowitz said, it ic much easier to prove a case of lying to the government undere 18 u. S. Code section 1,001 than it is to prove an obstruction c case, particularly based on what they have. It has to be material, but then threshold for a material lie is extremely low. And their cases are legion of convicting people under 1,001 and including martha stewart. Its a terrible strategy and i cant believe i would physically restrain my client in these circumstances. S] laura [ laughter ] you and i both. Hold on, alan. Well stay for another segment. We have an incredible story ahead. Hillary clinton and Barack Obamas stunning connection now to the mueller probe. You wont believe this. Stay here. Eller probe. You wont believe this. You wont believe this. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your Allergy Pills . Flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. One of the other Cable News Networks recently, first of all you probably are bombarded with updates on former Trump Campaign chair Paul Manaforts federal trial kicked off today. Despite no allegations of russian collusion, he is facing serious prison time in a case brought by the Special Counsel, bob mueller. Its not related that manaforts work that russian friendly Ukrainian Political Party that predated his time at the Trump Campaign. It got swept up in this whole deal. Interestingly, there are reports that mueller has referred three cases to federal prosecutors in manhattan involving highprofile lobbyists who also worked on behalf of that same ukrainian linked Group Without registering as foreign agents. Havent heard much about that. Have you . Could it be that, because, welln one of those names is tony podesta . Super lobbyist and the Democratic Party and brother off john, the chairman of hillarys failed 2016 campaign. Or that other name, greg craig . Former white House Counsel for barack obama. Rejoining us now for reaction, alan dershowitz, and sol wisenberg. Okay, guys. How potentially serious, or not, is the deal with referring both podesta and greg craig to the Southern District of new york . Greg craig, full disclosure, work for my old law firm, and they parted ways. Months back. Lets start with you, Professor Dershowitz. What is going on here . Greg is a great guy. He lives on Marthas Vineyard with me. I see them periodically over the summer. Full disclosure. Look, this proves that you never needed a Special Counsel. They are taking these cases mori and more and referring them to ordinary u. S. Attorneys office. The manafort case could have been tried by the u. S. Attorneys office in northern virginia. The other manafort case by the district of columbia he was u. S. Attorneys office. Why do we need a Special Counsel . The cases dont involve russia for the most part were the only cases that involve russia are cases that will never be tried at all, the 12 russians. They are not coming to disneyland any day soon to be served. Theyre not going to be extradited by vladimir putin. So we are seeing more and more proof that we never needed a Special Counsel. The Special Counsel will end up filing a report and getting some lowhanging fruit and getting some convictions, largely unrelated to what his mandate originally was. I didnt like the Special Counsel when they were appointed to get bill clinton, i didnt like them in other cases. I dont like them now. It is against the principles of democracy. Laura similar, sol, seems interesting. Were vacuuming up a lot of information about people, and its going up to the special this other Southern District of new york, same deal with Michael Cohen. It doesnt seem like it is expanding to places that have nothing to do with the original charge. Two things in mind. One, i think probably, if it has related gone to the Keeping Parenting<\/a> heres a i. C. E. Official, attempting to introduce this concept called applying the facts to the law. To those democrat senator from hawaii, mazie hirono. Americans Civil Liberty Union<\/a> . Nowadays illegal immigrant Civil Liberties<\/a> union. Meanwhile, we are caring for these children in the u. S. Taxpayers are footing the bill. But who cares about these facts. When peddling emotions, dripping with concern, is so much easier. Melania trump went to the border and now these empty and asked these empty questions about how and when these families will be put back together. She doesnt care shes planning christmas at the white house. Are you idiots running this country . You seem like Child Abusers<\/a> to me ask any doctor, ask any Child Welfare<\/a> specialist,ask any psychiatrist, ask yourself, is this abuse . This is abuse laura that was abuse just watching that. You ever notice how the empathy,\rthough, just runs one way . Its never the same kind of empathy for the families victimized by violent illegal alien crime. Or dwi deaths because of Illegal Immigrants<\/a>. Or drug trafficking. Gunrunning. Never any empathy for americans who have been pushed out of their jobs in the workforce for cheaper illegal labor. B never any empathy for i. C. E. Agents, who have their reputations smeared or lives threatened, for just doing their jobs. Our commitment to consistent and fair enforcement of the law is demonstrated on a daily basis by the integrity, the unbiased professionalism, and the compassion of the Men And Women Of Cbp Exhibit<\/a> toward the aliens we encounter, particularly toward the most vulnerable. We do not believe our humanity behind when read report for duty. Laura that was a great line. Americans are just a lot smarter. S than the left and their Media Poodles<\/a> think. Americans understand that we are not a country without borders. Of course we have compassion. That is why we are taking pretty good care of them, all things considered. They are not with their families but they are being fed, clothed, doctors appointments, entertainment, sports, schooling, interpreters, lawyers. Te that is not nothing. And americans will not be guilted into supporting politicians who put the interests of illegal aliens ahead of our own citizens. Here is why congressman ron desantis will be the next governor of florida. Sa he gets it. We can fight illegal immigration [cheers and applause] all we got to do is enact everify and stop Sanctuary Cities<\/a> we want maximum Border Security<\/a> and respect for our heroes, i. C. E. , border patrol, and Law Enforcement<\/a>, and we are going to have tremendous Border Security<\/a> that will include the wall that will include the wall. Laura the applause went on and on last night. The biggest Applause Wind<\/a> when the subject of immigration came up. Look, in my mind, its actually sad, its really sad to see what happened to the party of fdr and john f. Kennedy, the democraticw party. On this issue and so many others, they used to believe america was worth defending. Her laws, her constitution, the declaration, her borders, her history. Now their most vocal voices believe it is time to destroy that old order and replace it with something closer to socialism. But we are not about to let that happen. Ngis and that is the angle. Joining me now for reaction is tom homan, the former acting director of the i. C. E. Mr. Homan, thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate it. No problem. Laura i got to tell you, when i see\rWhats Going On<\/a> in portland, oregon, beautiful portland, a lot of history of political activism, thats fine, this is not your ordinary political activism. Whats happening there that the American People<\/a> are not seeingol because the media will notha adequately cover this story . During the time i saw your clips earlier, and chris kramer is right. The mayor has refused to taker action on those folks that have illegally prevented us from doing our jobs by shutting our building for over over a week. How many child molesters, predators, werent arrested that week . How many criminal aliens, aliens would enter this country illegally and commit yet another crime werent arrested that week . A lot of criminals are now walking the streets of portland that would have been arrested that week. The mayor turned his back on the citizens of portland for his own political ambitions. Ou laura now, chris crane was talking about the antifa infiltration, or some would say takeover of this protest. Are the runofthemill, kind of millennial protesters, with the magic marker signs, and the black mask people, kind of working hand in glove there from what you are gathering . Yeah, i watched video of the\rportland office showed on forre days. Showdown for several days. Antifa was there. In a matter of fact, they hungr their antifa flag up over laura whoa. Whoa. Whoa. They took down u. S. Flag, they climbed the building, they took on the u. S. Flag, and they replaced it with an antifa flag . Yes, maam. I. C. E. , the first thing they did when they took a Building Back<\/a>, the patriots raised the Building Back<\/a> up. Th laura only thing i can think about it is when isis was rolling through parts of iraq. They were going to those christian villagers in mosul and so forth. They were knocking down those churches, taking up the cross, and raising the isis flag. Its a form of domestic terror. Its pathetic, Whats Going On<\/a> in portland. I dont know who is worse than that mayor or the mayor in oakland, philadelphia, the whole bunch of them right now, who have never accepted this president , and they will put their own political ambitions ahead of the Public Safety<\/a> of their citizens. I want to remind the portland\rmayor, because im sure hell hear about this, these i. C. E. Employees, are also tax payers and citizens of the city of portland. He has a duty to protect them. Laura zephyr teachout, interesting name, democratic candidate for a new York Attorney<\/a> general, calls to abolish i. C. E. I. C. E. Has to be abolished and as Attorney General<\/a>, i will continue to speak out against i. C. E. , i will prosecute i. C. E. For their criminal acts. We have stories of consistent abuse. , the idea that we could call this Law Enforcement<\/a> is a real offense to the idea of law itself. Laura a real offense. I think shes mixing up i think she means offense. Thats okay. Ive never seen that video but now im more irritated than i was when i walked in here. That Attorney General<\/a> laura t candidate. Candidate . I hope that is as far as she\rgets. Look, prosecute i. C. E. Agents . I. C. E. Officers and agents have taken more than 5,000 criminal aliens up the street in new york. That walked out of there sanctuary jails. I. C. E. Has done more for Public Safety<\/a> in that state in their own governor has. I. C. E. Officers on the northern border have shut down opioid trade and laura but they say, tom, the reason theyre upset is because you are separating families, you are focused on deporting these families, when you should be focused on the Illegal Immigrants<\/a>. They are conflating border patrol, hhs, detainment centers, and i. C. E. They are putting them in one big pot. T. Pa so theyre saying, well you could do a better job if you werent focusing on these poor children. Let me tell you about separating families. Watch the hearing and i was quite disturbed by some of the questions by democrats. They kept wanting to put the blame on Border Patrols<\/a> and i. C. E. We have a process, weve been separating families for decades, first of all. , laura decades. Decades. They want to blame somebody . Congress need to look in the mirror. I have been up on the hill several times along with the\rhead of cdp and cis talking about the loopholes, if they want these folks to see a judge and claim asylum, we do, too. There is one way to guarantee to see a judge is to keep it in a Family Residential<\/a> center. They dont want to do that. They refuse to fix the loopholes, the Attorney General<\/a> did what he had to do operationally to defend our borders. The Attorney General<\/a> did exactly what he should have done. Laura Zero Tolerance<\/a> is the way to go. He was right. We have a Runaway Judge<\/a> situation in this country. They are acting as super legislators. A judge in san diego, he ordered during the unification stop, the dna testing, when we did the dna testing, 55 and 7 5 to 7 were not the parents. If you bring that to 2500 people, how many children do we have to release them to people that want their parents becausec that judge decided that dna wasnt important. Laura and 20 of kids\rwere not brought across by their parents theres 10,000 children in custody, hhs that were separated by their parents who hired criminal organizations to put their credit in the trunk of a car and smuggled into united states. At that is child abuse. Mu laura who are the parents who send their kids across the border alone . What kind of parent is at . The administration of putting your kid in the trunk of a car and smuggling to united states. Laura tom homan, hey, great to see you. We miss you at the homeland. Im in the fight. Laura good for you. Bob mueller is the mayor to make it significant concession to the trump legal team. Hes agreed to reduce the number of questions for President Trump<\/a> and a potential interview from his initial list of 49. Mueller is also willing to accept some answers in writing, though he wants Oral Ancestorac<\/a> answers to others. Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani<\/a> responded to the tugofwar over an interview earlier today. They sent us a proposal. We responded to that proposal. De it took about ten days and yesterday, we got a letter back. We are in the process of responding. At the end of it, they should render their report, put up i\rguess, Put Up Or Shut<\/a> up, what you got . We have every reason to believe they dont have anything. Ut laura joining us now to analyze, alan dershowitz, author of the book, the case against impeaching trump, along with sol wisenberg, from the whitewater investigation. Professor dershowitz, what you make of this development . The supposed concessions. They dont seem like huge concessions to me but nevertheless down from 49 questions, some in writing. Does this change the calculus . I dont think so. Its not about quantity. Its all about quality. All he has to do is ask one question, what was your motive, why did you fire comey, or why did you ask comey maybe to go easy on flynn . All they want to do is get him to say in a context where he would be charged with a crime, something that is controversial, and something that somebody else will come in and testify and say, no, he told me something different. No, he told me that his motive was this or that. Motives are so vague and subjective. And you can be charged with lying to prosecution officials, even if you tell the truth. If there is another witness who comes in and gives a different account and the prosecutor is trying to get you. They want to put you in perjury trap and believes or says he believes the other witness whotr may not only be singing but he may be composing in order to get a better deal, youve walked into a perjury trap so in the end, i dont think his lawyers are going to let President Trump<\/a> testify orally at all. Look, the president may get his way. Laura yeah. He says he wants to testify, but no lawyer is going to walk his client into a perjury trap. Laura tonight, the new york times, sol is reporting that the president is pushing for an interview with mueller against the advice of counsel. I dont know if this is kind of you know, theyre playing around here on this and its\rgood p. R. Or if thats the real deal, but lets pretend for the moment thats real. Your reaction . I think it is suicidal. I think its idiotic. I agree with the professor. Here is the real piece here. The real key here. Based on everything we know, they dont have anything close to an Obstruction Case<\/a> on the president. But it is much easier, in addition to the stuff that Professor Dershowitz<\/a> said, it ic much easier to prove a case of lying to the government undere 18 u. S. Code section 1,001 than it is to prove an obstruction c case, particularly based on what they have. It has to be material, but then threshold for a material lie is extremely low. And their cases are legion of convicting people under 1,001 and including martha stewart. Its a terrible strategy and i cant believe i would physically restrain my client in these circumstances. S] laura [ laughter ] you and i both. Hold on, alan. Well stay for another segment. We have an incredible story ahead. Hillary clinton and Barack Obamas<\/a> stunning connection now to the mueller probe. You wont believe this. Stay here. Eller probe. You wont believe this. You wont believe this. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your Allergy Pills<\/a> . Flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. One of the other Cable News Networks<\/a> recently, first of all you probably are bombarded with updates on former Trump Campaign<\/a> chair Paul Manaforts<\/a> federal trial kicked off today. Despite no allegations of russian collusion, he is facing serious prison time in a case brought by the Special Counsel<\/a>, bob mueller. Its not related that manaforts work that russian friendly Ukrainian Political Party<\/a> that predated his time at the Trump Campaign<\/a>. It got swept up in this whole deal. Interestingly, there are reports that mueller has referred three cases to federal prosecutors in manhattan involving highprofile lobbyists who also worked on behalf of that same ukrainian linked Group Without<\/a> registering as foreign agents. Havent heard much about that. Have you . Could it be that, because, welln one of those names is tony podesta . Super lobbyist and the Democratic Party<\/a> and brother off john, the chairman of hillarys failed 2016 campaign. Or that other name, greg craig . Former white House Counsel<\/a> for barack obama. Rejoining us now for reaction, alan dershowitz, and sol wisenberg. Okay, guys. How potentially serious, or not, is the deal with referring both podesta and greg craig to the Southern District<\/a> of new york . Greg craig, full disclosure, work for my old law firm, and they parted ways. Months back. Lets start with you, Professor Dershowitz<\/a>. What is going on here . Greg is a great guy. He lives on Marthas Vineyard<\/a> with me. I see them periodically over the summer. Full disclosure. Look, this proves that you never needed a Special Counsel<\/a>. They are taking these cases mori and more and referring them to ordinary u. S. Attorneys office. The manafort case could have been tried by the u. S. Attorneys office in northern virginia. The other manafort case by the district of columbia he was u. S. Attorneys office. Why do we need a Special Counsel<\/a> . The cases dont involve russia for the most part were the only cases that involve russia are cases that will never be tried\rat all, the 12 russians. They are not coming to disneyland any day soon to be served. Theyre not going to be extradited by vladimir putin. So we are seeing more and more proof that we never needed a Special Counsel<\/a>. The Special Counsel<\/a> will end up filing a report and getting some lowhanging fruit and getting some convictions, largely unrelated to what his mandate originally was. I didnt like the Special Counsel<\/a> when they were appointed to get bill clinton, i didnt like them in other cases. I dont like them now. It is against the principles of democracy. Laura similar, sol, seems interesting. Were vacuuming up a lot of information about people, and its going up to the special this other Southern District<\/a> of new york, same deal with Michael Cohen<\/a>. It doesnt seem like it is expanding to places that have nothing to do with the original charge. Two things in mind. One, i think probably, if it has related gone to the Southern District<\/a>, unlike Michael Cohen<\/a> where they could say it is not in our bailiwick, here, this\rpart of the original manafort thing, but here, they willy, decline those cases, and my guess, and if mueller declines cases against democrats, he would get a tremendous amount of criticism for it. So its easier to send it to the Southern District<\/a>. Laura it looks better for mueller, whos been accused by the president of having 17 prosecutors i dont agree laura not all of them have ties to the democrats. The president shouldnt be doing that. Heres the other thing. Heres a difference. Right or wrong, Mueller Seesdnha Manafort<\/a> as a key to his russia conspiracy case. He believes, right or wrong, that manafort knows that something manafort is the key and that is why he is going after manafort that he is clearly going to laura did judge ellis say that again today . He said it repeatedly. S he says i dont like it. The system let him do that. Every prosecutor has done that at some point in their career. That is the key to mueller. Manafort is the key. The question is, if hes convicted, does he become what susan mcdougall, and say, nuts to you, im still not talking to you, or does he say, hed rather talk if he has any information . Laura he was there for five minutes at the Trump Campaign<\/a>, i mean. Four or five months laura then trump is worried at all about manafort. I know k for a fact hes not worried about it dershowitz you made a very important point in that is its much easier for you as attorney to decline a case. Thats why we should have u. S. Attorneys. Theyre professional prosecutors. They dont a have a target. They can decline cases if the facts and the law dont warrant prosecution. Laura lets advance the narrative. Theyll call for a Special Counsel<\/a> to do that. Laura lets advance this narrative today. At we have this trial kicking off in the Eastern District<\/a> of new york and in instruct me that much of the time in it struck\rme most of the time in these conversations, much of the conversation went to Paul Manaforts<\/a> wealth. And there was one point where they brought in this witness, okay, maximilian katzman, former manager of the New York City<\/a> mens warehouse store. He claimed manafort spent 929,000 on suits between 2010 and 2014. Judge ellis then says cant cantankerous judge ellis whom i love dearly, all this evidence shows that mr. Manafort had a lavish lifestyle. He had a nice home with a pool and a gazebo. Its not relevant. Of course he went out to make a really funny comment about the clothes, saying he spent a lot of clothes and it wasnt even that welldressed. Is it a crime is a crime not to spend a lot of money, but we got a lot of people guilty of that in this town, washington, d. C. If he doesnt say mens warehouse, i dont know anything about it. Laura i like t. J. Maxx. You like mens warehouse that is my kind of judge. That is my kind of judge. I will never be convicted of anything, expensive clothing is\ra prerequisite. B i also go to mens warehouse. Of the interesting thing is under the law, the law is terrible at showing lavish lifestyle. Under the law, the prosecutors, in most courts would be allowed to say that but judge ellis really doesnt like it. Every time he makes those comments, the jury is listening and they know he doesnt like it. Laura Professor Dershowitz<\/a>, at one point, they talked about the fact that manafort used foreign wire transfers to pay for his clothes. This maximilian katzman, who is the kato kaelin of the trial so far, he says he says, well, that is the only customer ive ever had who paid that way. Who cares . This is not against the law. I dont know what manafort did. I think this whole thing i dont know, my antenna, my spidey senses are going up about this case. I dont know if it is rick gates, if they are afraid to bring him and as a prosecution witness, they seem to be hesitant about bringing gates in, which i find interesting. Professor . Whenever you have a witness who has admitted to lying, it is a very hard job to put them on the stand. D. The witness always says, i lied in the past, yes iknow that, but now im telling the truth. Wy the lawyer for the defense says, you expected benefits from telling the truth. Dont you expect to get a good deal . So its very hard to get a successful conviction based on a flipped witness who might not only be singing, but composing. This judge is very sympathetic to that. He used that term. He said sometimes witnesses who are squeezed, not only think about compose, and make the case sing but compose and make the case better in order to get a better deal laura really quick, they talked about not doing that Early Morning<\/a> raid. Apparently, the fbi had a key to his condo. They said, how did you have a key . We said, we dont know how we had the key. A little weird. A little weird. Again, this is my own litigator sense. That is interesting. Listen, gates is going to testify. Laura gates is going to testify. A guys, well have you back all the time. This is really interesting. Great panels, great to see you in person. Big names now scouring hollywood for new production gigs. Well tell you about the latest. Arroyo next. Ow well tell you ab. Raym\rthe laptop people at starbucks . They are. They are willing to change, find their destiny. They are more mobile than we are. Heres what they are doing. They have adopted what is called small house movements, where they live in campers, or rvs. Av laura or containers these little babies, they are offering to them, they are also living in pods and Theirre Parents<\/a> backyards. Now three fourths of all campers are generation x and millennials because they are transient, they are impermanent a little bit, but there is an interesting thing i saw in the los angeles times, a ton of other periodicals. They are green thumbs among the millennial generation. Laura how do we go from containers to green thumbs . I will make this fit, hold on. Listen. Laura ok. A 2017 Gardening Survey<\/a> found that of the 6 million new gardeners in america, 5 million are age 1834. They are millennials they are cohabitating with plants, laura plates. When there is too much of a commitment of a cat. Co\r they dont want to go all the way with a cat laura a cactus . A cactus or a fern will work. Lets go back to the house. They are jamming their apartments with greenery because they want a sense of connectedness. My take on this is they want something natural in an impermanent world. My advice, get a pet, get a child. Laura get a child . Where are you going to get that . At costco . Got to get married first. Thats usually how it happens. My advice, dont spend your youth on the ficus. Ri it would not give you a mothers day card. When you get old, and will not order you. Water you, is dont do that. There is more we have to dof that, and of course, i have to tell you about a great decision by netflix this week. Et they released a notice to subscribers that they would soon be streaming a new documentary with a very snappy title. The honorable minister Louis Farrakhan<\/a> My Lifes Journey Through Music<\/a> it was called. This week, netflix said that the documentary wouldnt be airing on their service because of a technical mixup. This is based on a five cd musical release. I had forgotten laura i played it on my radiors years ago i had forgotten. Ld laura screwy louie. I wouldnt google that. Laura hes talented a calypso singer. Laura Harry Belafonte<\/a> of calypso. Harry belafonte of hate. Here is his calypso a little bit of his upcoming album that the documentary is based on. An album that speaks from the pain of the heart of a little boy wanting to see his people, this is a project that attracted some of the most brilliant,t, awardwinning musicians and artists. Now chaka khan, Stevie Wonder<\/a> i hope he is going to sing a duet of you are the antisemite of my life thatd would be cute together. Chaka khan, common, why are these people lending their name to someone like Louis Farrakhan<\/a> . This man has peddled hate like no one else. I have to tell you, when i started listening to some of his original compositions, laura, this is something you could put a playlist together, its really fun l laura for a radio show, yeah. For the radio show. Hes got a song called heed the call, yell, of white mans heaven is a black man hell. Listen. Of torture, and misgivings, yet the bible speaks of a heaven filled with material luxury, which the white man and the preacher has right here. Laura [ laughter ] thats quite a. The white mans day is done. Laura theres no rhyming, i notice. This is like a cornel west, cornel west with reverend wright. It is William Shatner<\/a> meets reverend wright. Laura what is it . The Space Odyssey<\/a> music in the background . Hurry up. Hillary, branching into tv, you teased this earlier. She has a new deal with steven spielberg. Laura of course let me tell you about this, how did you get a good, no Tv Experience<\/a> at all. She read a book on the suffragette movement. You like to become a product to her lawyer, bob barnett, he took it to spielberg, he bought it and made her an executive producer. This is how it happens. Laura this is how hollywood takes care of its own. You know what you need to do . Find a book and bring it to your lawyer. Laura im sure. By the way, the notorious rbg, i was down at dinesh dsouza, i went to the premiere of his movie, guess what the first break poster was, the first ruth bader ginsburg. The new superhero of the left. Now the obamas netflix, Hillary Hillary<\/a> is at cbs. She is going to be on Madam Secretary<\/a> on their premiere, playing herself. Fl you can dvr it. You love it. Laura with Harvey Weinstein<\/a> gone, the clintons needs a benefactor in hollywood. Raymond, thank you so much. I cant get that screwy louis out of my head. You will be grooving to that. Laura c no. No. No. That is. Im surprised he didnt do it in numerology. Remember the numerology . He loves the numbers. This is new to me. Laura um well, the left is enraged by a new documentary, speaking of dinesh dsouza, chocked full of inflammatory claims about democrats history. He joins us with his reaction right after his World Premiere<\/a> tonight. The uproar next. T. H his reaction right after his World Premiere<\/a> tonight. The upper next\r both mussolini and Hitler Set Up<\/a> and ran welfare states. This was done by the liberals , the people who wanted to improve society. Laura joining us more joining us with more, dinesh dsouza, whose film, as i said, had the big washington, d. C. , premiere tonight. Dinesh, good to see you. Laura you are really kicking the hornets nest with this film. Its out tonight. You have a book out today, well have you on radio tomorrow, the next day. They are saying you are making leaps of logic, democrats are the real racists, look at where they are doing to these poor kids in the detention centers. Trump doesnt like brown people. Hes putting his Immigration Enforcement<\/a> into place. What is your response to all these critics . Aceyop theres a lot here. The movie focuses on two things, racism on the one hand, and fascism on the other. As you know, from the time trump was elected, the left has been dropping these two big incendiary bombs, not just on trump but on the right, but on conservatives and republicans. So the movie has a historical\rcomponent because it dives into what is the meaning of fascism, who is the real party of racism, but where it really kicks offff with that looks at where is the fascism today, wheres the racism today . . And it shows that it is the fascist and racist tail belong not on the republican elephant but on the democratic donkey. Laura getting a lot of hits from variety, the guardian, they love you, in this embarrassing new film from the far right provocative all personal attacks, dinesh dsouza, he compares donald trump to abraham lincoln, Claims Hitler<\/a> was lgbt friendly and calls antifa the real nazis. Lets talk about this trumplincoln business. The idea of morphing their Heads Together<\/a> but look at how similar their situations are. In 1860, outsider president , lincoln, comes in. Hes narrowly elected in a threeman race. Id and the moment he gets in, all hell breaks loose. The democrats in the north are calling for his assassination, which happens eventually. The democrats in the south are f willing to break off the country. So they are trying to get rid of lincoln, you may say, by any means necessary. Look at how eerily similar that is our moment. Trump faces a Democratic Party<\/a> that is still refusing to accept the result of a loss of election, wants to get rid of trump however they can, and is pursuing all the strategies, including the inflammatory race card and fascism card, to discredit trump. Laura This Antifa Group<\/a> is terrifying. Black masks, whipping molotov cocktails, throwing desks through windows, with signs, stop the fascists. They are antifascist. You point out in the film, which i was lucky enough to see the first 20 minutes or so before i had to come to the show, they f want to stop speech. You have dealt with it on College Campuses<\/a> for decades. They want to stop speech, stop debate, and they are terrorizing people from speaking out. They look like fascist, thete\ract likes fascists except they could claim to be antifascist. I think i am also red, not just i think im also worried not just by fascists on the street butde i would call antifa the fascism of the deep state. When a party employs the weapons of the state, the fbi, irs thats as close as youll get to clinical fascism style. Yet its coming from the left. Laura Richard Spencer<\/a> is him on the left holds up as hes altright, he is the real republican party, hes racist, and you actually interviewed him. He was at that charlottesville rally. You interviewed him in the movie. Lets watch. What would be your take on reagan . . I do not think he was a great president. Who is your favorite president . There was something about jackson. They are something about polk,\ras well, someone who only served one term. Jackson and polk, bothhi democrats. Party party is just the vessel that one uses. Jackson is the founder of the Democratic Party<\/a>. Nd laura dinesh, you and i have been doing this politics Culture Stuff<\/a> since we were at dartmouth together in the 1980s. Have you ever ive never heard of this Richard Spencer<\/a> until 5 minutes ago. I literally had never heard of him. There is a deep strain of leftism inside the White Nationalist<\/a> movement. Jason kessler, the organizer of the charlottesville rally, was an obama supporter. Think about it. A White Supremacist<\/a> who voted for obama. And in Occupy Wall Street<\/a> guy. Now this guy, Richard Spencer<\/a>, and the core part of the interview, i asked him, where do your rights come from . They come from god . He goes, no. We dont have any rights. The right that we have are given to us by the government. So hes a statist, hes aha collectivist. And yet the left, when they see\rthis, it horrifies them because it doesnt fit their narrative. And so they dont want to Interview Spencer<\/a> in this kindfi of thing. I think the movie in a way blows the Whistle On Charlottesville<\/a> and that whole charlottesville narrative and it blows it up and shows that there is a whole unreported side of it in which the left statists are trying ultimately to smear the right with guys like spencer, who are their willing accomplices. Laura do you think this movie in a way is a combination of, the liberal education you wrote the whats it called . The end of racism. Laura the end of racism. A lot of the stuff youve written about in a way comes together right before the midterms. Everybody has to see this film. The race narrative i have been pursuing for 20 years. The Fascism Narrative<\/a> is new and its eyeopening to me. We have a scene in the movie, of nazis getting ready to pass the Nuremberg Laws<\/a> against the jews and they have the laws of the democratic jim crow south and may have them as the nazi laws. A laura we cant expect our\rhigh school kids to learn any of these facts today. Congratulations, book, movie, youre driving allll the right people crazy. Thanks so much for being here tonight. But just how easy is it for noncitizens to vote . Cast ballots . Cant be that easy, right . Guess what, Michelle Malkin<\/a> will tell us the truth next. Allots . Can be that easy, right . Guess what, Michelle Malkin<\/a> will tell us the truth\r laura a disturbing report is raising questions about nonu. S. Citizens ability to register to vote and cast ballots. The Washington Times<\/a> reportedt noncitizens are signing up to vote in states including pennsylvania, new jersey, and virginia, according to the research where the Public Interest<\/a> Legal Foundation<\/a>, the nonprofit organization. They advocate for election integrity. They found that a lot of those that noncitizens manage to cast ballots as well. Yet, heres a common refrain we always hear from democrats. The voter fraud mantra is said so often, it is almost saia robotically, that some people have unthinkingly begun to believe that the issue is real. This whole notion of elections, or voting fraud this is something that has that is constantly been disproved. This is fake news. The notion that they are a whole bunch of people out there who are going out there and are not eligible to vote and want to vote. We have the opposite problem. Laura joining us now with the reaction, conservative commentator, crtv host Michelle Malkin<\/a>. Those golden oldies are just they are the gifts that keep on giving. They are always worried about voter i. D. Because they think it is so hard to get a government issued i. D. In this country, really difficult. They think that is onerous. But then they are not worried about illegal immigrant voting, they brushed it off, even if it cancels out a legal citizens vote in any given reaction. Your reaction to this report . Laura, first of all, i commend the Public Interest<\/a> Legal Foundation<\/a> for doing the work that the liberal, open borders press wont do. Youve got the leftists in the elite media screaming about foreign interference and meddling in our political system and having noncitizens and illegal aliens voting at our ballot boxes is the textbook\rdefinition of foreign meddling. This goes back years and years and years. Back when i lived on the east coast, of course, all around me, all of the counties in thenliberal blue maryland were inviting noncitizens, and they kept it very vague. They said, we only want Illegal Immigrants<\/a> who havent naturalized yet to be able to feel a part of the process and cast their ballots and school boards. This has been the gateway, laura, as you know, for all manner of Legalizing Illegal Aliens<\/a> participation in civic and electoral life. It is radical and its transformative and its happened right before our eyes, all legally. That is the real scandal here. Whether it is Judicial Watch<\/a> or project veritas, and the last several election cycles, has been able to do undercover work, show that democrats are nonchalant about it, what itec\rshows you are that these people are more interested in banning Plastic Straws<\/a> and 3d guns than they are in illegal aliens from the ballot box. Laura yeah, did you see the story, of course, this week and last week, san francisco, local board elections, school board elections, Illegal Immigrants<\/a> now can vote . They say, look, theres a community. Theyre in the community. Why shouldnt they have a right to vote . Now we have that Ninth Circuit Ruling<\/a> today that you cant defund Sanctuary Cities<\/a>. You can always count on the ninth Circuit Court<\/a> of appeals on the issue of immigration to get it wrong. Im sure itll be reversed at the supreme court, but nevertheless, the president is up against a completely biased media, purposefully illinformed media, Runaway Judge<\/a>s until he can appoint more and democrats and the old g. O. P. Guards and theyey dont want that wall. Lets face it. The g. O. P. On capitol hill, they do not want this wall, correct, michelle . Do not want it . Yes, they dont and weve\rfought these people for a long time,he you and i, laura, long before there were a lot of johnniecomelatelies on this issue. We can smoke out the phonies and the lipservice payers from the people who truly believe in these fundamental principles of sovereignty. Itll be a reckoning come these midterms. Ive saidd many times as people have tried to sort of downplay the internal strife over this, of course, it should be front and center in front of the midterms. I mean, its the gallop polls are now showing the majority of americans are with us more than ever and youve got leftwing enclaves, even in oregon which now has an antisanctuary measure on the ballot, and it qualified withas, i think Something Like<\/a> 50,000 or 60,000 more signatures than were needed. Thats leftwing Pacific Northwest<\/a> oregon. When is the g. O. P. Going to get the message . Michelle malkin, you have done such great reporting on this and youre also doing some reporting on another case, were\rgoing to trye to get to it next week. It involves criminal justice reform. I tweeted something you know what im talking about i dont want to get too far into it. I do. Laura i want to bring you back to discuss that particular case next week. Thank you so much. Thank you, laura. Im so grateful. Wrongful convictions are a huge issue for me. Laura yeah, wrongful convictions. Prosecutors who are out of control in our country and peoplecu rotting in prison when they could be gainful members of society. Theres a lot of abuses out there we really appreciate your covering that. Y Michelle Malkin<\/a>, thank you so much. We have a lot to still getha to. Well squeeze it in, if we can, when we come back","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"https:\/\/vimarsana.com\/images\/vimarsana-bigimage.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240618T12:35:10+00:00"}