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FOXNEWSW The Ingraham Angle December 22, 2018

And nancy pelosi put the blame on President Trump and the gop branding it the trump shutdown. They called for a strong, sensible and effective Border Security policy calling the president s wall expensive and ineffective. The president said he would be proud to shut the government down to fight for the border wall. Congress will gavel back into session at noon on saturday but the house will give 24 hours notice before a vote. So the soonest this could be resolved would be sunday. The white house says it will be a short ordeal. But sources say it could take a while and both parties preparing for a lengthy shut down. This is the third time the government has shut down this year. The last time that happened was in 1995 when president bill clinton was in office and Newt Gingrich was speaker of the house. Now we join the ingraham angle already in progress. They announced they werent going to take any votes at all. Any changes they make to the bill would have to be approved by the house. But nothing was coming tonight and they adjourned early as well. The last leader on the hill tonight was Vice President mike pence who brought Jared Kushner and Mick Mulvaney over to squeeze as much money as possible out of lawmakers. But he never indicated what the white house was offering in a deal. The Vice President also had to break a 4747 tie to move to debate on the border wall money and they did. But 47 votes is far short of the 60 needed to pass in the senate. That vote was kept open for hours because lawmakers had to fly back from home after they passed a spending bill without any border wall money and many are on the way back home to their home states because leadership says they will have a 24hour heads up before a vote on the spending bill. Laura now i hear the echo behind you. Im half expecting tumble weeds to start blowing through the great, beautiful capitol hall youre standing in. But when is the last time you saw a living, breathing human being . Other than the majority leader of the house who is four feet from me, its mostly just press. Laura hes coming on our show. Peter, thank you for giving us the latest on this. Its unbelievable. No compromise in sight and a lot of members have decided to go home for christmas. Joining me now, cory lun cory l you we have heard this build up for 72 hours in ernst. Well play a montage of the media declaring whats happened with mattis resigning. We have a segment coming up on that, but mattis resigning, the partial government shutdown, so far no wall funding which means of course the end. Lets watch. Is this the beginning of the end of what we have known as the Trump Presidency . History will see this moment after the james mattis resignation repudiation as the beginning of the end of the presidency as we know it. Its the beginning of the end of the crisis. We could have played four or five more sound bites. But this is the drum beat. The republicans are starting to abandon him. T the wall street journal is turning on him. Laura, its very simple, this president made a pledge during the campaign, the biggest one he made. It received the largest amount of applause on the campaign trail and that is to build the wall on the southern border and the weak leadership failed to deliver it. They asked him not to shut down the government during the midterm elections and promised to put the funding in for the wall after the midterm elections and once again they failed the American People and the president said weve had enough. Because of your show and jim jordan saying fool me once shame on me, fool me four times shame on you. The president cant tolerate this. If we dont get the funding now it will never come to fruition. Laura how do the democrats go to the voters and the country. We know that we spend 18 billion a year on health care for Illegal Immigrants. We spend billions more on public education. Were compassionate people and thats what we do. The democrats cant find 5 billion to get the border fortification going in the form of a wall, enhanced fencing, et cetera, why are we worried about other borders and not our own . We are worried about the american border and there are 4 billion agreed to by the senate in the vote on wednesday supporting Border Security. And i have to say we got to remember that the applause line wasnt just about building the wall it was that mexico would pay for it. And now the president is asking the American People to pay for it. I dont want to pay for a border wall. Laura but what about the 18 billion a year for health care . I think when people are living in the country we need to make sure they are not unhealthy. Laura all right. But the key thing here is that the border wall doesnt have the votes and will have less in about two weeks. The votes arent there. Its theoretical. Theyre not going to get the money from this congress. So why are we shutting down the golf for a vote that wont work in the president s favor . Laura we deal in the realm of facts. So we have 25 of the government nonessential employees, nonessential services are covered under the shutdown. When i hear nonessential, why are they in the government at all. Its like the skeleton crew. What do we need you is we dont need you so just stay home. Laura thats craziness. Its also a scam. When they have the nonessential employees stay home and they stay home for the extra day, when the government reopens we back pay them. Its not like we saved money in the whole thing. And heres the thing, the American People will pay for the wall. Weve seen that from the gofundme and they have raised 10, 11, 12 million. The American People will pay for security. The families who have loved ones killed by Illegal Immigrants will pay for the wall. We have the money. Its a 4 trillion dollar budget. The cash for Clunkers Program was a 3 billion boon dogle to take cars away and throw money in the trash. And you wont do that to protect American People. Laura i have to say to both of you, vo, ththough, a pox on parties they have both handled it abysmally. It is an abysmal handling of the crisis on our southern border. I think both parties have failed the American People here. Both of you have a wonderful holiday, Merry Christmas and happy new year. Joining me now, Kevin Mccarthy who is the only person left on capitol hill. Congressman, okay. Well, here we, are congressmen. You should be stuffing stockings at home and hanging the mistletoe and all the fun stuff you do in california but here we are. The government will shut down in two hours, did you all wait too long . I dont know if we waited too long. The house has passed funding before and we had the 5 billion in there. The challenge really lies the house did pass a bill that protects and secures the border. The senate, it takes 60 votes. When it comes to the question of shutting down it comes to schumer. Does schumer make a decision to shut down or not . And this is a different shutdown than any of those in the past. We have funded 3 4 of the government. The military is taken care of in this process but this is too important to let keep going. We know we need it to be secure and think about what schumer just said, he was for providing money for the border but hes afraid it will affect Nancy Pelosis vote for speaker on january 3rd. Laura back in october we talked about this at the time when paul ryan said were going to do this big fight about the border in december were going to have a conversation. We all knew that was ridiculous. I mean you were not in that camp. But for two years, paul ryan and everyone hears me say i like him as a person. He has not been on the president s side on this wall. He never wanted a wall and he didnt like it and what trump was saying about the wall. This is all on trumps shoulders . I find it outrageous its on the president s shoulders. Hes someone who wants this done. Mazie hirono, a senator from hawaii, on television blaming fox news and basically talk radio. Lets walk. Hes got some right wing loud people yelling at him on fox news and suddenly, he says i dont think im going to sign it. It is very true that he will bring on the shutdown and has to take responsibility for it. Any effort on his part to blame the democrats will be such [ bleep ]. Laura she said the bs word there, congressman. Is this a fox news, talk radio pundit shutdown or did the president say do or die here . The president campaigned on this and said he was going to fight for this all along. And it comes down to 60 votes in the senate. But the president is doing what he promised just like on Everything Else from getting tax reform and others. This president is a fighter. But paul has been fighting for the wall as well. But here we are, were in this fight and what changed this week, remember when nancy pelosi was in the oval office and said you dont have the votes in the house. Well we overwhelmingly proved that is not true and sent the bill to the senate. So it really lies with the senate and the channel there as you watched the vote before it comes down to what Schumer Schumer had some power. Its unfortunate for the president but its unfortunate for america. We see whats happening across this border. Laura its got to get fixed. Thats why im still at work right now. Laura again, i beg to differ. I think that paul ryan could have got the votes for that goodlatte bill. Everyone was told it wasnt going to happen. But youre right, the senate has the cards now. We really appreciate your spending time with us tonight. And thank you so much, congressman mccarthy. We have a lot more to get to. Coming up the whiplash over war policy, friday follies. And an attack on antifa, all coming up. Stay there. Laura the antitrump forces in the media are pretending to be distraught about the resignation of james mattis, the sky is falling and chaos in washington. The only adult has left the room. Youve heard the echoes, beware. A political earthquake is rolling through washington as the Trump Administration sinks further into chaos. There are no more grown ups in the room. You have america in retreat across the globe and the most extraordinary resignation in modern american history, certainly in the past 40 years. Laura the democrats on the hill who for ten years were demanding our troops come home from iraq now sound like the paul i think this will be one of the worst Foreign Policy blunders of this century. Who knows why the president is making the decision he did today. A decision made in a cavalier fashion in terms of our allies in the fight against terrorism. A decision that is dangerous. Laura im confused now, didnt they elect obama not once but twice in part because of his pledge to bring the troops home. We have spent a trillion dollars on war at a time of rising debt and hard economic times. Now we must invest in our people. We must unleash innovation that creates new jobs and industries while living within our means. America, it is time to focus on nation building here at home. Laura i want to stand up. And cheer, in fact at one point in 2011, pelosi and other Top Democrats were criticizing obama for the slow pace of his troop withdrawal. Many of us would like to see this go faster than the path it was laid out. However, it may, and with the proper progress whether on the civilian side or government side, anticorruption side, it may well be that we can have a quicker drawdown. Laura now that donald trump is president the principles fly out the window. I think its wise to focus on the substance in mattis letter. He says our strength as a nation is linked to the strength of our system of alliances and partnerships while the u. S. Remains the indispensable nation in the free world we cannot protect our interests without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies. Before we rush to engrave those words on a tablet in Independence Hall lets think about mattis claim there. While his deep and abiding sense of Public Service is inspiring we love that part of mattis the argument that americas strength is in our alliances stands in contrast to what our framers believed. I rered George Washingtons farewell address not on the plane, on the way down here. And all americans should read it a few times a year. Its stunningly beautiful. Its wise. Its humble and in many ways its prophetic. Mattis knows that washington warned against entanglements abroad that would put our nation at home at risk and would not safeguard the countrys fragile independence. He said the following, it is our true policy to steer clear of Permanent Alliance with any portion of the foreign world. Wow. Its hard to take that in now, right . Thats what washington said. But Thomas Jefferson echoed the same sentiment. He said peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none. Washington also warned us to, quote, avoid the necessity of overgrown military establishment which under any form of government are unauspicious to liberty and which are to be rewarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty. Of course the point would be driven home after world war ii and after the korean war by president eisenhower who said we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence whether sought or unsought by the military industrial complex. Now im not here tonight to say we shouldnt work with other countries, of course we do and we should and we should live up to our commitments to help our allies. But were not in a financial position to rev up the Team American Police Squadrons either. And mattis himself has said we cant be the policeman of the world. Whenever we take action abroad, it should be based on clearly defined goals with a specific and clear National Security objective which once reached allows for an american withdrawal from the region. The argument from so many of the bush republican types is we cant pull our troops out because chaos will ensue. But that thinking we will never leave anywhere we deploy because chaos is always a possibility. Donald trumps Foreign Policy is based in principled realism not endless interventionism. We have no pressing National Security interests in syria now. We fulfilled our objective. We smashed isis, a success that the administration shares with general mattis. Joining me now with action is david morey, a former dhs special adviser and ben friedman. David, your old boss, barack obama largely won the presidency on his noninterventionist message, specifically targeted at iraq but in general that america could never overextend ourselves or remake nations in our own image. Why do you take issue with what trump has done here . Just like obama was not perfect in his withdrawal from iraq and afghanistan. I think it was a mistake because its beyond contrarian that we have already defeated isis. The majority of the National Security community dont think that this is a good idea to withdraw 2,000 troops from syria and opens up the potential for reflash, the secretary of defense mattis and this is like declaring victory landing on the air force carrier with Mission Impossible behind you. Laura like you just look a couple of months ago. And a couple months ago all the headlines i was reading the headlines. Foreign policy successes. The Trump Administration, you know, Mission Accomplished against isis. You know, obviously isis wants to reconstitute itself. Youre never going to destroy all of isis. But in the area where we were focused, isis has been driven out. This is marks tweet earlier today. And he is a big bush guy. He said the following. Lets put it on the screen. He basically said anyone who criticized obamas withdrawal from ra from iraq but defends trump needs to check their hypocrisy. Obama was the author of the surge in afghanistan and put Ground Forces in syria but i agree with you on this. We need a definition of success or isis is defeat that mortals can achieve. The National Security experts that we are hearing from complaining about this have a standard of defeat for isis that is impossible to achieve. Its like if anybody in syria thinks nicely of isis or says anything in their favor we have to stay in syria forever. I think weve achieved a reasonable standard of success against isis. They dont have territory any more. Thats an important thing. They dont have the allure to attract idiots from around the world to come fight for them. Their ranks have been decimated. If that is not success, nothing is and were going to stay in syria forever. Laura i want to play for you what donald trump said he was going to do. He gave his big Foreign Policy speech when he laid out his priority, principled realism. Leaders engaged in nation building abroad while they fail to build up and replenish our nation at home. They undercut and shortchanged our men and women in uniform with inadequate resources, unstable funding and unclear missions. Laura david, thats what the president campaigned on. Barack obama said something similar. But realism on the ground in afghanistan kicked in, had a mini surge in afghanistan, reluctantly deployed troops in syria. He didnt want to do it at all. The red line, trump smashed him back on the red line. But donald trump did respond to the chemical attacks. He got criticism from a lot of folks but he did respond. Its not like he has done nothing in syria. So to hear these people say he has had a herricky jerk Foreign Policy, he said

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