Africanamerican men who havent had the experience of being followed when they are in shopping stores. That includes me. If you ask africanamerican men who havent had the experience walking across the street and locks click on the doors of cars. Paul that was president obama on friday speaking in very personal terms about race in the wake of George Zimmermans acquittal in the case of trayvon martin. As protests continued across the country and pressure grows to bring federal civil rights charges against zimmerman. Jason riley joins me more with reaction on the president. That could have been trayvon martin, it could have been me 35 years ago. What is your reaction . Paul, he is right. That could have been him. It could have been me 1015 years ago. The question, why is that. Why have perceptions of black male criminality persisted so many decades . He is saying that as president. What is behind it . Its hard statistical data showing that young black males, just like 35 years ago, continue to commit a disproportionate number of crimes and that is what is feeding this perception. Paul you wrote a column making that point that was very controversial in some quarters but got a lot of response. I thought the president was responding to you at one point in that speech where he said that doesnt mean the Africanamerican Community is naive. That young black men are disproportionately involved in the criminal system. Do you think he went far enough in that explanation . I think that needs to be the whole discussion. He wanted to drag other irrelevant factors into this. If we wanted to change the black male perception or perception of black males, young black men need to change their behavior. This is not just whites who have these perceptions. Jesse jackson said when im in a dark alley and see white people, i feel relieved. This is something that permeates both races and all races and its common sense. This is not an irrational response given the data. Paul the president talked in personal terms and so did eric holder to the naacp. He said basically i have been stopped in georgetown as a young prosecutor when i was late to a movie running to a movie. They are both saying this is why this case resonates so much with people in the Africanamerican Community. Isnt responding to that sense because anger at some point. Is that an appropriate role for the president and attorney general . I think the more responsible thing for them to do in the positions that they hold is to say that the black Community Needs to talk to black leaders, parents, children, ministers, teachers, what have you, but this is conversation we need to have about black behavior. What i saw the president doing in this conference, i saw barack obama as community activist. Paul really. Activists dont unite people. They divide people. Here we have the president giving sort of justification for the black civil rights leaders who have been trying to racialize this case from day one. I think holder and holders responsibility was to cool down the temperature. What they are both been saying there is some justification for what we have been hearing from the al sharptons and Jesse Jacksons out there. Paul he did say the jury has spoken. He said there is no justification for any kind of violence. That was important concession because it looks like justice has no case. They cant go after zimmerman on a hate crime which is what some of the civil rights attorneys are hoping. Paul i think i heard the president say, at least the way i interpret it look i dont think there is a case here and i dont think we can bring it. I wanted to demonstrate to you how much i understand where you are coming from. You think that was part of the political calculation . Sure. But we also know the political calculation, this president has not stopped to use racial solutions. Voting rights of 19657 every aspect is still relevant today if you dont think so you are some sort of racist and racial prewlsz in higher education. So this president and his attorney general and this administration has not hesitated to drag race into the issue and adivide the country along political lines. Paul jason, glad to have you with you on this. Cincinnati strikes back. One of the rowing 6 agents testifies in front of congress. E dla enar iinout. Methrementgh tfor os for e hey, the new guy is loaded with protein really . 25 grams of protein. What do we have . All four of us, together . 24. Hes low fat, too, and has 5 grams of sugars. Ill believe it when i [ both ] oooooh. Whats shakin . [ female announcer ] as you get older, protein is an important part of staying active and strong. Ensure high protein. Fifty percent of your daily value of protein. 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Both her and carter hall a veteran irs lawyer testifying before congress on thursday and confirmed that officials in washington including an obama appointee had a direct hand in delaying the tax exempt applications of conservative organizations. For more im joined by James Freeman and all things irs, co eleven levy and steve moore. Give us the summary here what we learned . We learned the hearing on thursday that this scandal didnt end in cincinnati. It went to the office of chief counsel of wilkins and also lois lerner. You heard that she was getting her orders from management in washington. Her management in washington was carter hull and he was looking at the cases. He said specifically when on he had a couple of test cases he was required to run them up the chain to ms. Lerner and to the chief counsel and we unable to sign off those cases without their permission. Paul and the general counsels office role, William Wilkins because there is only two political appointees, wilkins and whoever is running the irs. So this isjcn significant. What is the irs saying about wilkins role . The irs is some pains that he wasnt at a key meeting where his office was reviewing some of these applications, but i think its very interesting because one of the reasons that mr. Wilkins was hired presumably when the white house hired him, they said specifically they admired his expertise in dealing with nonprofit organizations. So the idea he wasnt in the loop and all this was happening in the office is a little bit of stretch. Paul he was involved, was he not, in the campaign in 2008 when for the Jeremiah Wright who was then senator obamas pastor when his church was investigated for tax exempt issues, correct . Right. That was the case where reverend wrights church was questioned whether or not the involvement was jeopardizeded his status. And they are not allowed to have any political activity and he was defending the church in thatl he didnt test, but what do you make of this, james . I think that is the next case where the investigation has to go. What we are hearing this week is the exact opposite of the story that the government told us in may when this first came out, it was the rogue employees, that was low level and bureaucratic bungling. This is going right to the top. What mr. Hull made clear, the top of the irs, these reviews, this additional scrutiny only these tea party and conservative groups was unprecedented. He had been in the irs for decades. He has never seen anything like it. Its coming from the chief counsels office. I think m mr. Wilkins is the next one under oath. If he lawyers up and pleads the fifth perhaps others in the office can tell us what happened. There are a lot of document requests. And Tea Party Groups are still not getting fair treatment by the irs, even now . By the way, let me say one thing thing about the hearings. Amazing thing was the democrats and the way they roughed up the witnesses and roughed up the inspector general. This was almost unprecedented. The democrats originally said we want to get to the bottom of this. It became very clear that they treated this as kind of a partisan witch hunt beating up the inspector general. They dont want to transparency here. They want to sweep it under the rug. The issue by groups that were unfairly treated by the irs, they have gotten letters from the irs, well, we will give your tax exempt status but you will have to live under different rules. I talked to lot of heads of tea party organizations, this is blatantly unfair. Why are we being held to a stricter standard than liberal groups. That is what the heart of the scandal is all about. Paul what about the argument go that we are hearing from some democrats, liberal groups were also treated just like the Tea Party Groups, were also singled out. Does that have any factual basis . No, we havent seen any factual basis yet. What you are hearing are claims that progressives were targeted equally. We havent seen any of that. The harassment, none of that is copping out. Russell george has said of the 2793 groups that were gleaned for additional political activity, there were six that had the word progressive in them. They are going to look into it. His office is going to look into that further. Paul Russell George being the inspector general. July 29, investigators on the hill are expecting documents from the executive branch on communications among the irs, executive office. President related to the elections and Tea Party Groups. Sleer another opportunity for the Obama Administration to be helpful here. Lets see if they take it. Paul if you want to follow the story, you have to follow it right here because the rest of the press corps went into hibernation. When we come back, walmart says it will pull the plug on three new stores after the city council in washington, d. C. Passes a super minimum wage for 12. 50 an hour. Is it a victory or defeat for city workers . [ brent ] this guys a pro, herbie. [ herbie ] theres no doubt about it brent, a real gate keeper. Heres kevin, the new boyfriend. Lamb to the slaughter. Thats right brent. Moms baked cookies but hell be lucky to make it inside. And heres the play. Oh dad did not see this coming. [ crowd cheering ] now if kevin can just seize the opportunity. Its looking good, herbie. Hes seen it. Its all over. Nothing but daylight. Yes id love a cookie. [ male announcer ] make a powerful first impression. The allnew nissan sentra. The allnew nissan sentra. If youve got it, you know how hard it can be to breathe and man, you know how that feels. 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And pulling the plug three under construction after the city Council Passed a bill that would require large retailers to pay at least 12. 50 anhour, 50 higher than their current minimum wage. Chain has encountered fierce assistance in new york, los angeles and chicago and other big cities. Were back with jason, colin and steve. What does the city council have against walmart . If you want to understand why major cities like detroit are going bankrupt, just look what is happening in washington, d. C. What has happened, the major developments, Shopping Center in low income areas in washington, d. C. , the city actually with sutures trying to get walmart to build stores there. Walmart agreed to build six and no good deed goes unpunished in politics. The city council in the middle of the construction of these stores, by the way, were going to require you to pay a 12. 50 an hour minimum wage. Now walmart is threatening to pull back and not open up those stores. What the opposition to these stores . Have always hated walmart because its nonunionized. What is unfair about the law it would not apply to unionized stores, only Big Box Stores that dont have unions. Paul so each store is to bring estimated about 300 jobs and Million Dollars in tax revenue for d. C. Uh sound like a winwin . As the winwin. This is a classic example of democrats putting a special interests, in this case, labor unions ahead thiac constituents. You are talking about a company that has a tradition, that majority of its stores in less affluent stores. That is what it prides itself doing. Bringing those communities, low cost goods and services and jobs. Its amazing because what the democrats and the liberals who are antiwall is basically saying, we would rather these folks stay unemployed than work at walmart. Paul so this same kind of fight occurred in chicago but happier ending, richard daly vetoed the bill. How has things turned out . It turned out fine. That battle waged for a long time. You have about eight walmart stores, yes inside chicago. Daly at the time said something very interesting. We never addressed the stores in the suburbs. Why are we opposed to them opening up in the city. That the jobs and need for jobs in the inner city. I think there is Something Else here. About the minimum wage, you have to acknowledgement that the minimum wage drives businesses away. That is basically what the City Council Members are saying. Hey, if we raise the minimum wage, walmart is not going to a want to do it. Paul there is an irony on walmart that is not above political cynicism itself. It favored an increase in the minimum wage several years ago i thought in order to punish the competitors, might not be able to support it. What is vincent gray, mayor of d. C. Going to do . I want to go back to that point that jason made. One of the great things about walmart for low income people it provides low prices, its makes things affordable for people. I believe, paul, at the end of the day the mayor is going to veto this bill because it is so contrary to Economic Development and jobs and opportunity in the city of washington, d. C. If walmart pulls out a lot of entire Shopping Centers may fold as well. Paul is he going to do that. The example of detroit where there is 78,000 abandoned buildings. It shows you what happens when you get economic decline . That poor people cant get a break from the left. Walmart is trying to give them jobs, left wants to give them food stamps. Paul is that going to be an example for washington and is vincent gray going to step up to the plate . I hope so. Paul what is that precedent . There are is some other places like new orleans. Walmart eventually got in there. Jason, new york will not allow walmart into the city. Its amazing. Paul that is true. 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Its 14 billion ethanol tax on consumers. What this means, paul, not only does ethanol drive up food prices, now it is driving up gas prices, too. One of the great scams of all times. Paul, this is hit to the Fourth Circuit court of meals that is the third federal court to invalidate the appointments to the National Labor relations board. A little while ago the president basically made those appointments by just ignoring the senates role in the d. C. Circuit and they said it was an overreach of power. Its going to the supreme court. Paul james . This is a hit to demetropolis who brought back the Great American institution the twinkie, hostess that make twinkees, heavy union costs destroyed it. L