Sufficiently inclusive and diverse. They want to look around the area you live and decide if your town is diverse enough. If not, the feds will order lowincome housing or else much of your federal funding for your town will dry up. Experts say this is more than an attempt to change the way americas neighborhoods look. It may also be an attempt to change the way they vote. Joining us now, Richard Fowler and contributor and former chief president ial speechwriter to george w. Bush mark teason. We begin tonight with mark. And so mark this is being described as something that president obama has had in the works for years. But has only now found the guts to actually put out there as a housing and urban development proposed final rule because his term is almost done and this is the time to do it. The last thing on the list. Change the neighborhoods. Absolutely. Look. This is what happens when you take a Community Organizer and put him in the white house. He wants to organize your community from washington, d. C. This is an insidious idea. What theyre trying to do is engage in social engineering of local communes from washington, d. C. Theyll take data and collect data on the racial makeup economic makeup of communities and bribe or blackmail them into changing their zoning policies. This is a fundamental assault on local government the principles of the country built on. They dont want quote, unequal neighborhoods. Unequal neighborhoods. They think too many communities are too white, too privileged with too big mcmansions, too many big mcmansions and they want to diverse the communities whether the communities want it or not. Well you know the way to diversify communities, we believe in diversifying communities, too, as conservatives. You do that through Economic Opportunity and create opportunities for people at the bottom of the economic lad tore afford housing in the communities and by helping more americans afford the housing in the affluent communities. They cant get ahead. But wait. But what theyre saying is that the way you live what your town looks like the racial makeup of it the opportunity that is there has a real affect on families and saying too often families of color live in downtrodden socio economically depressed cities whereas the whites live in the affluent suburbs around the cities and having a negative effect on the families of color. And much in the same way affirmative action meant to lift up the families of color gives them more of a running start instead of starting from stop this is supposed to do the same in a neighborhood. Yeah. But the problem isnt the affluent communities. Its downtrodden communities and the policy that is created the communities. We have talked a lot on this show of baltimore. Right . And the reality is that the People Living in depressed areas of baltimore, its not because theyre not living in affluent communities of baltimore because theres racism in the zoning boards. Theyre living there because they dont have opportunity. They dont jobs or hope. Theyre stuck in failing Public Schools n. Baltimore africanamerican young men have a 37 unemployment rate. Youre not going to move into an aflubt neighborhood if you dont have a job or an education. So the problem is not that the communities are keeping people out. The system is keeping the people down by not giving them jobs and communities. What is going to happen . This rule passes they go in and take a look at how your community looks, how white is it . You know howdy verse if ied and rich is it . It doesnt meet with approval they can come in and what . Lowincome housing, which is controversial because sometimes that can lower the housing values in a community that you know they with respect anticipating it. And what i mean, what else . What would it look like . Its not going to happen. I think because theres a massive revolt in this country against this. This is just such an assault on what we stand for as a country to have washington, d. C. Coming in to local communities zoning and housing. Those are local decisions that local communities make. Thats not the job of the department of housing and urban development to micromanage thousands and thousands of municipalityies saying there needs to be Affordable Housing here and there. Theyll try to push it through as a rule and the question for you how does it play in 2016 politics . Its going to be very important in 2016 politics for a couple of reasons. Number one, because the person whos implementing this Julian Castro the hud secretary, on everybodys short list to be Hillary ClintonsVice President ial nominee. Ah. So he if he gets tapped to be hillarys running mate this is a very very central issue and secondly right now what theyre going to do if the rule goes through and not Block Congress theyll collect the data first. Its not implemented under president obama. The next president will implement it. Hillary clinton going to reengineer your community . If elected president and theyll say republicans are against communities of color. Exactly. The flight those folks who pursued white flight want it to stay that way and dont want people of color next door to them, racist and discriminatory. Thats why republicans have to be careful how they handle this. Portray republicans as the party of the rich to protect the white suburbs against people of color and poverty coming into their neighborhoods. We need to make clear every principle of every american should be able to live wherever they want and opportunities to live wherever they want. This is fascinating issue and its very interesting that this is apparently one of president obamas prize issues and hes saved it until now. Thanks marc. Thank you. Richard, your thoughts on first of all, an attempt to manipulate the way cities vote the voting makeup. I dont think thats the case at all here. I think what the president is trying to do is create opportunity for all. Lets talk about the facts. Fact number one is there is more caucasians on section 8 housing than africanamericans or latinos. Right . Opponents are trying to help. All families. Lower socio economically situated families and focused on helping communities of color good thing but theyre open about that who theyre trying to help. Heres the thing. When you have more Diverse Communities like the Nations Capital where you have caucasian families living next to africanamerican families living next to latino families living next to poor and rich families you have a more diversity in ideas and better working places and Better Living situations for our young people. Right . Young people grow up and get to understand culture and diversity. That happens organically. Thats not controversial. Whats controversial is government designed equal neighborhoods. Theyre talking about unequal, uninclusive neighborhoods. This is not the first time we have seen the federal government take steps in this direction. The other one is brown versus the board of education when the government said segregation in schools and its not a good idea and do everything to break that down and then breaking that down is whats made america a better place. Your position is that an africanamerican president. The position is that even though any africanamerican can move into any community, really what stops you move into a community is money. Generally. Right . I didnt grow up in a fancy neighborhood. I wanted to be in one. We couldnt afford it. And then getting to an adult, i made more money and now i live in a nice neighborhood. Its a nice home. The neighborhood anyway. The point is thats the way it was usually done. Its not like you must diversify because uncle sam feels its too white or its too rich. So heres where i agree with marc on one thing. Best way to fix it is Economic Opportunity and a way to do that. Now the states and the localities municipalityies can reject the money and seen it happen in the past. They cant. They take it to fight blight. No one wants blight. Passing the highway bill in the country for the first time a lot of states decided not take the money because they want to raise the age for smoking. Right . Its over 3 billion. Its over 3 billion. The state vs the ability to choose or not to choose to take the money. If you dont want the federal government controlling how your neighborhoods diversify makeup is dont take the money. If youre so rich dont take the money. Im pretty sure they wont take the money. I can name a couple suburbs like we dont want it. We want to stay the way we are. White picket fences. I was going to try to get the image in my head. Richard fowler thanks for being here. We know you dont feel well. We appreciate it. Thanks. With top contenders of both parties joining mitt romney in utah. The governor is here to outline the stakes. And almost one year to the day after the Islamic State captures key cities across syria and iraq the white house is now sending in more troops. One iraq veteran today issued a public challenge to the president s plan and he is here with that. 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The terror group driven tens of thousands from northern iraq, kidnapped, tortured and murdered thousands of iraqi soldiers and committed countless beheadings includeing americans. All this and they still have estimated 31,000 fighters on the battlefields about double their number from just last september. When president obama admitted about isis quote, we dont have a strategy yet. This week the president appeared to double down saying even today, quote, we dont have a complete strategy and sending in 450 ground troops, mostly to equip and train the iraqis. The president s plan was met with some skepticism. The u. S. Military fought for about a decade with hundreds of thousands of ground troops. Its hard to see how a few hundred noncombat troops make much of a difference. Clay hannah served in the army 2003 to 2008. He fought in ramadi. Now under isis control and he got a lot of attention today for an open letter to the white house calling mr. Obamas idea a, quote, Hopeless Mission. Clay thank you for being here. Why do you say that Hopeless Mission . My thank you for having me. Well i think that this is fundamentally a leadership problem that the administration has had throughout this conflict. The rhetoric has simply not matched the reality on the ground and the administration and the president have not been clear with the American People or with our troops about as to what the situation is what the plan is and how were going the achieve our objectives in the middle east. When you write this letter to the president , youre not pressing him to go in guns blazing into iraq. Youre saying make a real choice and then stand behind it. Correct. Yeah. I think that this whole debate that weve been having has been centered around the wrong question. Weve been discussing a lot of tactics and whether we should escalate and whether we should embed troops. Deeper into iraqi units. And whether we should push out observers further in the field. The real question should be, is this in our strategic interest to be in iraq . Is it in our strategic interest to defeat isis . And is there a moral imperative to defeat isis . What do you think president obamas answers to those questions are . I dont know. Thats thats a big part of the question. I think he does have an opinion on whether its worthwhile for u. S. Troops to be dying there. So thats and thats pretty pornd important. Thats why i wrote what i did because i wanted him to make a zoigs for us. We need leadership and for him to be willing to tell us what he thinks is the right thing and then stand behind it. What does that do to troops having fought in these city that is are now under isis control . Whens it do to the troops the hear the commander in chief say we still dont have a strategy . I think that its probably tremendously frustrating. I know in my own experience in my second deployment i got to iraq in the fall of 2006 and at that point there was a lot of uncertainty about what the plan was and at one point i believe it was november or october of 2006 we actually had two different scenarios that we were actively working on. One was that we were going to be pushing out further into the city. I was in baghdad. And the other was we were going to be redeploying out in the desert along the iranian border. Two totally different missions. And it was very difficult thing to muster the motivation from my troops and from myself really and have an explanation for my family as to what i was doing out there, why i was risking my life when we werent really sure what the plan even was. Right. And here we are again. Clay good to see you. Thank you for your service and your time tonight. Thank you. Well, some of the most powerful folks in america gathered in utah this weekend to debate where america goes next. 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Senator rubio, Governor Walker senator cram Carlie Fiorina and governor kasich are showing up and there to talk about leadership former obama adviser david axelrod, robert gates and Larry Summers to name a few. Earlier tonight, i spoke with the host of the event, 2012 republican president ial nominee and former govern nor of massachusetts, mitt romney. Governor great to see you tonight. Thank you for being with us. Thank you. Good to join you. Whats the purpose of the e2 summit . Why are you getting all these people together . Well i want people who are in leadership positions, whether in government or in the private sector or in the voluntary sector to learn from one another about the qualities of leadership and to talk about the direction for the country and ultimately some of these people get behind people running for president and make as informed a choice as they possibly can. I love its bipartisan. Some are calling this the pry romney primary. Will somebody emerge with the approval . No. No stamp of approval. Im going to stay forcefully neutral in this process. And im not going to be getting behind anybody whos one of our contenders. I want to get to the candidates and your thoughts on some of them in a minute but you bring up the topic of leadership and president obama has come under fire this week for his leadership on the question of isis. And has come out publicly and said we dont have a complete strategy yet. And this is you know ten months after he said we dont have a stra