A living off it catholicism. Anticapitalist. Some conservatives not happy with pope francis over the Global Warming deal. We will take a hard look at that. Caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. The factor begins right now. Hi, im bill oreilly. Thanks for watching us tonight. Analyzing the charleston terror attack. Thats the subject of this evenings talking points memo. As we told you last night there were a number of dubious statements made after the 21yearold terrorist dylann roof slaughtered nine innocent people in a South Carolina church. Today roof was issued 1 million bond in a charleston courtroom where family members of those murdered got to speak to him. You took something very precious away from me. I will never talk to her ever again. I will never be able to hold her again. But i forgive you. You have killed some of the most most Beautiful People that i know. Every fiber in my body hurts. And i will never be the same. Clearly anyone who lost a loved one in that terror attack deserves to be heard no matter what they say but not so much those who are trying to exploit the situation. Lets run down some worthy statements as well as some foolish comments. First, cnn commentator mikala angela davis. This is terrorism. The reason why im using those words is partly to bring the history current because thats how it felt to those living in the jim crow south. Thats what the ku klux klan is a terrorist organization. And up until this generation, i dont think we had the courage to call it what it is. Ms. Davis is correct. What dylann roof did was flat out terrorism. He did not murder someone for profit or for any other concrete reason. He simply wanted to terrorize black americans. Next up, senator rand paul. There is a sickness in our country. There is something terribly wrong, but it isnt going to be fixed by your government. Its people straying away, its people not understanding where salvation comes from. Mr. Paul is also essentially correct. The government cannot fix disturbed people like dylann roof. American society has veered away from moral judgments into a world where almost anything can be justified with an excuse, thus making it easier for psychopaths to act out. Now lets get into race and politics. The Public Discourse is sometimes hotter and more negative than it should be, which can in my opinion trigger people who are less than stable. I think we have to speak out against it like, for example, a recent entry into the republican president ial Campaign Said some very inflammatory things about mexicans. You know, everybody should stand up and say thats not acceptable. Secretary clinton referring to donald trump who wants to stop illegal immigration from mexico by building a wall. Mrs. Clinton obviously finds that offensive. But to inject that issue into the charleston analysis is strange to say the least. She is introducing a totally unrelated situation to the terrorism in charleston. The only thing i can think of is she is trying to mobilize hispanic support. And then there are the race hustlers. The problem is we cant eliminate these type of incidents if we dont get at the source of the problem. And the source isnt individual crazy people. The source of this is White Supremacy. White supremacy . Good grief. Thats like saying the black panthers sweeping across america insighting violent acts from africanamericans. Now, im sure all of you see White SupremacistsWalking Around your town nearly every day dont you . That kind of lunancy makes a mockery out of serious people trying to bridge the gap of understanding between black and white americans. What we need here is serious analysis and honest discussion about differences. Not some phantom white supremacist madness. Also we dont need fanatical ideology either. I would also argue that the flames of this fire are fed, quite often by right wing rhetoric, often from people who dont necessarily share these radical views who dont, in fact, share these radical views but who sort of insight these feelings of white victimhood. You know, they are taking something away from you. And, you know, its no secret where you hear that kind of rhetoric, its all over the airwaves. Mr. Washington makes a living out of demonizing conservative americans. Right wing rhetoric thats what is causing all of these mass murders. Never mind rightwing rhetoric far more hateful than what the right wing plays out. Playing the ideological card in a bizarre way. Of course, none of this nonsense addresses the key question. How do we stop terrorists like dylann roof . As talking points stated last night we live in a free country where crazy people are allowed to roam free until they do something heinous. Everyone who knew dylann roach understood he was unstable racist individual. You cant do something to a person like that until he or crime. Thats the price we pay for freedom. It is long past time for all americans to demand honesty from our leadership. Yesterday, president obama again played the antigun card. But the president s hometown chicago has stringent antigun laws. Yet, the crime situation there remains out of control. In the next segment i will tell you how gun crime can be curtailed and its very simple. But does barack obama and the antigun lobby really want to stop gun crimes . Do they really . I dont think so. Because there is an easy way to do it. Without all the crazy rhetoric. Summing up, talking points urges all decent americans to understand there is evil among us. And there is no solution to that evil. All we can do is try to minimize and isolate the actions of disturbed individuals like roof. This country is somewhat united against terrorism abroad. Now we have to come together to fight it at home. And thats the memo. Next on the rundown guns and crime. Then, later on the broadcast, a man who recently met dylann roof and his family will tell us a harrowing story. The factor is coming right back. Oh no. Who are you . Daddy, this is blair he booked this room with priceline express deals and saved a ton. I got everything i wanted. I always do. He seemed nice. The beast was as long as the boat. For seven hours, we did battle. Until i said. You will not beat. Meeeeee greg. What should i do with your fish . Gary. Just put it in the cooler. If youre a fisherman, you tell tales. Its what you do. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance you switch to geico. Its what you do. Put the fish in the cooler great job okay here you go. Good catch alright, now for the best part. Ooh, lets get those in the bowl. These are way too good to waste, right . [ male announcer ] share what you love with who you love. 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In chicago, the law says people cannot carry unlicensed guns. And in cook county, where chicago is, you are supposed to be severely punished if found with an illegal handgun. You can get 10 years in prison. Yet, gun crimes in the windy city are an epidemic. So far this year there have been 873 shooting incidents. Up 20 from last year. So whats going on . Judges and prosecutors in illinois are not aggressively enforcing the gun laws, generally speaking. Often allowing offenders to plea down. And that is the crux of solving gun crime in america. Here is the solution. If a person is caught with a gun in the commission of any crime at all it automatically becomes a federal beef. If convicted in federal court, the offender gets a mandatory sentence of 10 years in prison. After that the criminal for the other offense. Every crime committed america with a gun, 10 years is the minimum. If you are simply found with an illegal weapon, it also becomes a federal crime. If convicted you get five years. That i understand could of tough punishment would drop gun crime drastically it would also give police and prosecutors huge advantages in wiping out the gang problem. Now, our politicians know that. But they simply will not do whats necessary. Instead, we hear about gun control. Thats a fiction. The Second Amendment clearly states that americans have a right, a constitutional right to defend themselves with firearms. And that right is not going to be abrogated by barack obama, Hillary Clinton or anybody else. Also, the individual states have the right to regulate how many firearms residents can have. The federal government can and should pass laws requiring registration conformity. But, again the swift and harsh punishment of criminals who use guns is the key to solving the violence problem. Joining us now from Los Angeles Adam winkler who teaches law at clay and is the author of the book gun fight, the battle over othe right to bear arms in america. So where am i going wrong here professor . Well, mr. Oreilly, you are absolutely right that we need to prosecute gun crime to the fullest extent of the law. Prosecutors shouldnt be letting people off when theyre caught with a gun when they are committing a crime. However, there are two things that you say that would be quite controversial in nra headquarters, i think. One, the idea that we should expand federal law and have federal prosecution of every gun crime. A lot of people think the federal government has already grown too big and too oversized as it is. The other thing about a gun registry. I was surprised by that proposal mr. Oreilly, that has been really the most hated thing in gun rights circles is the threat of a gun registry. Its not my job to pander to any group the nra the aclu. Solve a problem. The problem can be solved by the federal government basically saying to the states because you know that some states are lenient on guns and some states are strict on guns. So, in order to stop gun crime, you say that every gun, because it, you know, Look Congress can pass that and the president can sign that and then it takes it out of the state jurisdiction. As for registry, the Central Data Bank that the fbi has can prevent a lot of people who shouldnt have guns from getting them. Individual states dont have that resource. Am i wrong . You are absolutely right. And if we had a national gun registry, it would be very helpful in tracing guns that get caught up in crimes. We would be able to find out who had that gun and sold it illegally. Its a lot easier, look, all i want to do and i want everybody to be clear with this. Is to stop the gun violence, the illegal gun violence. At the same time, i want to retain and this separates me from barack Obama Hillary clinton, all the other liberal politicians the right of americans to defend themselves, they must have that right im not going to depend on the government. The local state or federal government to protect my family. Im not going to depend on them because they cant and wont do it. I have to do it. Thats my job. So i need if i choose to have one a firearm. And you are not going to take it away. But, chicago is the best example, and thats Barack Obamas backyard, they pass all of these gun control laws professor, and nothing, every gang member is running around with a gun. All right. Okay. Have the feds the cops go, in arrest them, put them in federal prison and you wont have any gangs am i wrong . There is no doubt that chicagos problem is largely a gang problem and not as much a gun problem. And, chicago is traditionally had very strict gun control laws and had a lot of Gang Violence and these days has looser gun laws than they have had in the last 20 or 30 years and gun violence is going up. Its very hard to control guns to control gun violence. Professor what we can do, you are right increasing the penalties that we have for gun crime. Sure. We can certainly make headway and having a National Registry although i think the nra would scuttle that as they scuttle Barack Obamas background gun check. There is going to come a point in this country where we are going to do whats right for everybody. Look, i understand the nras thinking, they dont want the big government. They dont want their name on a list to have guns because they think the government is going to come in and seize the guns some time down the line. I got it i understand it. The greater good is served by a very precise okay, campaign. A very precise campaign, super advised by the federal government, which is their job to protect americans all right from guys like dylan roof. Now, dylan roof under my scenario would have gotten a gunnyway because his nutty father gave it to him even though he knew the kid was a loon. We cant protect people from that we can stop the Gang Violence. We can stop the murderforhire business and we can take off streets fast. Last word . Reducing the daily death toll from guns. We need to get those numbers from chicago down. Focusing on trying to stop a crazy terrorist like this guy in charleston is really not going to further the ball. No, its futile. There is always going to be someone who is going to be crazy and get their hands on a gun when we have so many guns in america. We can reduce that daily death toll. Lets remember since this shooting and awful death of nine people in church. 64 people have lost their lives to gun violence just as a matter of daily routine of guns in america. The myth that these people are throwing out that they can override the Second Amendment is just insane. I just dont want to hear about it anymore. The Second Amendment is in stone its going to stay that way. Professor, thanks very much. A man who met dylann roof and his family will tell us about them next. The eclass has 11 intelligent driverassist systems. It recognizes pedestrians and alerts you. 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There was another gentleman that was at this get together that had a hat on, that said retired navy and i went up to shake his hand and i told him that i was all for also retired from the navy. And the son heard that and then the son approached me and started asking me questions about the navy. Now what else did he say to you you dylann roof . Well, when it first started off it started off very innocently. But then he was asking me if i was in any wars or if i shot anybody or had i killed anybody. And, you know, and i thought that was kind of strange because i usually dont get questions like that. Then, in the midst of the conversation, he lifts up his shirt and he pulls out a 45 automatic. And he goes what do you think of this . I got this from my father for my 21st birthday. It just about floored me. What did you say to him . I asked him i said well, what are you doing with a gun . I said, you know, goes, well, you know, i got it for my birthday and you know, i need it for protection or Something Like that. I said protection from what . You know. And then he kind of changed the subject a little bit. And didnt answer my question. Then he started in that, you know, with the the vulgarity started coming out. He started talking about hitler. He started talking about you know how hitler was right. And then he started talking about africanamericans in a vulgar way. I said, listen, i dont want to listen to this stuff. And i was getting pretty angry with him. So i finally turned around and said, listen, im not interested in your views of life or Something Like that. And, you know, i wanted to reach in there and grab his tonsils out, he was getting me so angry. Stupid. Now after this, did you walk away from him . Well, yeah. We were in a gathering so i was able to go visit with other people. But then he did tell me that he was going to go hunting with that gun. That was the exact comment that he used. But you dont hunt animals with a pistol. Well, i dont think he was talking about animals. Did you know at the