Actually kind of peered out from the clouds a second ago. Bill dont break out the sunscreen, distill about 31 degrees out here. Bill also, ahead, sonoma got it the northeast. Bill caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. The factor begins right now. Bill hi, i am bill oreilly. That is the subject of this evenings talking points memo. Irrational thinking, that is a subject of this evening talking points memo. For those of you watching us, you have seen a change in the factor. It used to be i was a god with everybody, nobody how crazy they were. In fact, use to people we had congressman barney frank on, after we played a tape of him saying that the federal mortgage system was fundamentally sound and not in danger of going under, he actually denied saying that, even though he listened to the tape of his own words. That resulted in a very loud confrontation. I could give you scores of other examples. But we dont do that much anymore. Their rationality in some precincts, the dishonesty of some zealots, the absolutist area that surrounds some new stories, is simply tom and incredibly annoying. You get nowhere when you present facts and they are rejected. So, why bother . Above all, i dont want to waste your time. Last night in our program, the first 100 days, Martha Maccallum tried to reason with a man who believes that the feds and the authorities in missouri allowed Michael Brown to be executed by a Police Officer in ferguson. Even though martha presented the facts, it didnt matter. You are suggesting that 40 fbi agents were all they failed listen to me. There were three different for us to forensic investigations that were done. I dont care. Everyone in the country roads told the narrative that he was shot in the back. Do you know how many black men are in jail right now . For nothing . For nothing . Because the department of justice failed them. You know how many black men are and you are right now . Bill so, that guy believes, apparently, that blacks are brutalized, thrown into prison on a mass scale because of their color. That is what he believes. So, why debate him . Facts dont matter and you cant get a sentence out. The worst part is, you are a racist if you dont see the way he does. It is the same thing with less volume with some politicians. No matter how many facts you present to nancy pelosi, for example, she is going to tell you obamacare is great. No matter how many policy failures there were in a rack, some conservatives will shrug that often deny any mistakes are made at all. Talking points believes the propaganda element is far worse on the left at this point in history but the honest american will cede that zealots on both sides for night. They are not looking for the truth. We are. You will not see that guy, jason pollock, on the factor, after he failed to treat Martha Maccallum with the respect she deserves. You will not see nancy pelosi here, either, even though i would interview her if given the chance. But she would never do that because she knows her own city, san francisco, has fallen apart, due to liberal policies. And she has to know that obamacare has hurt far more americans than it does help. But she doesnt care. In her mind, she is noble. Because she believes in far left tenants. For irrational people like that, compromise is impossible. And that is why america is having a tough time. There are way too many rational people. That is the memo. Now, to the top story reaction, joining us from washington, lisa boothe and juan williams. First of all, am i wrong for keeping jason pollock Office Program . God bless you, bill. I think you are right for you did to me, that guy is a provocateur. He is not interested in having a debate with you, he is interested in selling tickets to his movie, which i think is a bunch of horse feathers, by the way. Secondly, he wants to attract people who may have thought what happened between the police and Michael Brown, is this a case where the police were making assumptions and treated a young black men unfairly. As you heard from martha, bill, there have been investigations done my Obama Justice department, the fbi, state authorities, and he wants to ignore all of them. Bill they all failed but he didnt. I mean, come on. Bill Martha Maccallum did a good job in keeping her composure. I would like to see you. Bill the police would have had to been called with that guy. I would have cut his microphone off. Thats what he wanted. He would want that. That would have been all over the web sites and oreilly brutalized him. That kind of thing. I would never have had the patience or the professionalism that martha had. But i am not going to put myself through that anymore. I guess some viewers may be disappointed because for years, i was known as the guy who slayed the dragons. Martha tried to give this guy the fact that he wouldnt hear it. All he cared, he is a noname loser who is using this video to try to get name recognition. That is all he cares about. Look at the ramifications of this video, st. Louis dispatch reported that there was 100 protesters outside of the store, gun shots fired. A woman that punched a Police Officer in the nose, a guy was arrested trying to set a police car on fire. Not only that, bill, what about the ramifications of the propaganda that was brought about the Michael Brown incident . Since then, we have seen bill people could die because you have this element that want to destroy things in this guide whips them up. That is why we are not doing it. Lets go and elevate the discourse to nancy pelosi, who i use as an example. Heres an accomplished woman, whether you like her or not, she is the secondhighest ringing member of the house of representatives. But she simply will not acknowledge reality, juan. You can say to her, look, premiums in arizona have risen this much for obamacare. In south carolina, they are down to one insurance company. The aetna people have failed and the whole thing is collapsing. Nancy pelosi will say to you, no, that is not right. No matter what you do. Karl rove can have a little board and write it down. You can speak in a foreign tongue. She is never, ever going to seed that obamacare isnt working. Heres the question. Is it even worth putting her on any news forum . I think you have to talk to politicians. Bill even if the discussion goes nowhere . I get nothing out of it . I think the audience would love to see you and nancy pelosi because i think you hold me, you hold lisa, to a very high standard. Bill i would do that interview her. But im not quite sure that we would get anything out of it, other than me making her look foolish. Which people would want to see, i guess. Speaker nancy pelosi is a very smart woman. But she, because of the way we leave these days, people refused to say, i could be wrong, let mr guy, bill she is never going to admit. Let me compromise because im after a solution, the truth. We dont see that. Bill that is what happened with barney frank. That is why we are dysfunctional as an american government. Speaker that is what happened with barney frank, even after i played him the tape of him saying it, im going, where is rodney sterling . We have entered the twilight zone. Then, when he got nasty, i let him have it, lisa. People said, oreillys mean. [laughter] you are not to mean. I would like to see you interview nancy pelosi. The problem is, bill come a lot of the times, particularly of left, they are not held account. A lot of us at house they do, bill they do whatever they want. Look at an issue like abortion might divide the country. When was Hillary Clinton never asked about holdings stances like abortions at 20 weeks, something with the majority of americans reject, when was she questioned about come of the Democratic Party adopting, repealing the hyde amendment, completely against longstanding Bipartisan Legislation . Bill the media being an enabler of this propaganda as a whole different story. Good debate, you guys. Next on the rundown, more irrationality over obamacare. Later, u. S. Troops back on the ground in syria, iraq, and yemen. We will have a the factor investigation up ahead. Ostriches dont really stick their heads in the sand. A peanut is not a nut. And a real john deere is actually real affordable. You learn something new everyday. The surprisingly affordable john deere e series tractors. Now you can own americas tractor for just 99 a month. Learn more at your john deere dealer. Theres nothing more than my vacation. 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The left hates the plate and some on the right despise it as well. In the middle, being barraged with nonstop propaganda. Joining is not from austin, texas, karl rove. As you know, im a very simple man, i only have three questions for you, mr. Rove. The first one is, why exactly do some conservatives reject a broken proposal on health care . There are several kinds of objections. Some people dont want to have a replacement. They want to have just a repeal. Why not go back and pass the measure that was passed in january of 2016 by the house and senate and it was then vetoed by president obama . Better as a repeal only measure. They say, lets just pass that, kill the system entirely, then, take our time after placing edge. Bill let me stop you there. If that happens, then, people who are Getting Health Insurance east to get it, and there is anarchy and chaos within the community. Doesnt make a lot of sense to me. Secondly speaker doesnt make a lot of sense to me. We have said for years, repeal and replace. Some people say, lets replace it, but we will do the repeal first and well come back into the replace later. But that means we got to get 60 votes for every one of those proposals. I would love to get as many of those proposals within reconciliation, which means they only need 51 votes. They are some we will not be able bill you are talking about the senator. Reconciliation bill. Okay. I am more philosophical here. All right . Okay, some conservatives just want to repeal it outright and then, build a new system. In the meantime, chaos ensues. One of the other conservative objections . There is a principled objection to creating advance of will come a refundable tax credits for those who buy insurance out of their own pocket. The selfemployed, people who work at companies that dont get covered. Bill some conservatives see it as an entitlement. Exactly. Bill if you are only making 35,000 a year or do you a few kids in the house, it is a safety net going to the public i would put it this way. You could be making 153,000 a year as a selfemployed individual. Why should we give a tax advantage to companies to provided and not for people who have to pay out of their pocket . Bill another weak argument. Its a big one and some peoples minds. My view is, except you dont want the new entitlement, but if youre going to be consistent, then, say that you are in favor of repealing the tax advantage that is given to companies that provide insurance. Bill is there anything else the right doesnt like . A lot of this some of it strikes at me as goofy. I was listening to the leader saying, how dare they have in the replace and measure, the republicans have in the house, that if you dont have insurance, and you wait until you get sick and you show up and say, under the law, no preexisting conditions, you cant be denied coverage, but Insurance Companies are allowed to charge you up to 30 more if you havent been under continuous coverage. They are saying, how dare they do this. If i am prudent and i buy insurance to cover my family and i am paying into the insurance pool and you are being a responsible and not purchasing insurance until you get sick, why should you get the same price as me . Bill does a good point. There should be a surcharge for those who have have no insurance and say, now that i have canceri want you to pick up all the bells of the same price of the healthy people. Reasonable. President trump, as you did for bush the younger, he has got to go out and convince his party to pretty much supported down the line and will not go over a few democrats in the senate. So, what do you tell President Trump to concentrate on . I think he is doing it the right way. He has got tom price, he knows the spell inside and out, and he is working with the Republican Leadership in the house to keep an open line of communication to critics who are looking for a way to be supportive by making changes in the bill. If that process goes forward, then, good things can happen because price knows the bill. Bill he is the power thats right. You have to have a guy that does a lot of the ground work on it and says, this president , this is where we got to deal, we need you to be involved in helping so that deal. Bill last question from the simple guy. Will the new Republican Health care bill, no matter what shape it takes, we assume it will change, past . Prediction. If i were a betting man, i would say yes. There will be a column in the wall street journal, i would draw your attention to on thursday morning, that will examine this question in detail. I read the rough draft of it, it is a brilliant, brilliant one. I think i did a pretty good job on it. Bill you are saying that your column on thursday is brilliant. And unprecedented in its wisdom. I wouldnt say unprecedented budget wise. Bill but your prediction is that it will pass . Incidentally, not just the little board my friend. Bill its a trigger its a trigger karl rove, everybody prayed directly ahead, the factor investigation, u. S. Troops fighting in syria, iraq, yemen. We dont know much about it. You will in just a few moments. Later, Whoopi Goldberg threatening to sue a guy who smeared her on the net. Those reports after these messages. Bill factor followup segment tonight, u. S. Troops fighting in syria, yemen, you may remember that ryan owens was killed in january. Six other members were wounded in that ordeal. What exactly is going on . Joining us from boston, colonel david hunt, author of the brandnew novel, without mercy. Lets take the yemen raid first. What happened there . As you said, late january, members of Seal Team Six train up about three months, hit a compound in the Southern Province of yemen with about 30 guys. When they went towards the compound, there was a village outside which had a lot more terrorists and people with guns than they predicted. Then the intelligence read. The seals were under a very serious firefight from an uphill advantage. Those guys were a pillow. They to call in attack helicopters and jets into that area, which is where civilians, 12, 14 civilians were killed. We lost a great guy, you already talked about, oh wins, member of Seal Team Six. We lost in helicopter. Bill what were they trying to achieve in the rating of the compound . And intelligence gathering operation. Bill what does that mean . We want to get as much information for my compound, whether it is paper or hard drives, computers, or if they capture anybody. So, intelligence gathering. Bill did they get into hell, as the president said . The military classifies this as mission complete. They dont use the term success. They got hard drives and intel. Bill they did get it. But theyd paid a price. Now, and iraq, we have how many u. S. Soldiers, combat soldiers, on the ground right now, do you . Three years ago, we had 250, about 6,000, now, we have about 10,000. We have more coming into kuwait. We crossed into syria late monday night with rangers and this drug reveals, which is basically a tank, with a small tank, big rubber tires. Then, two regulators, we put marines and artillery units in. Going towards raqqa, the capital of isis. Bill 10,000 combat troops. Thats a lot of combat troops are in either iraq or syria right now. They are going through a rack, some of them are helping out with the mosul fight, isis is trapped in mosul, the iraqis are fighting. We have a good amount of americans in that fight, right . There is over 5,000 americans in the fight in mosul. That is the toughest fighting in the world, not just mosul, any time you fight come back in the city. It is very, very tough. We have got about a half to three quarters of mosul taken. We still have about two weeks or a month to finish. Bill lets stay in mosul. Are the u. S. Forces there, are they actually on the front lines with the iraqis, fighting isis . Are they in harms way or are they support . There is no frontline, as you know, hasnt been for 16 years. The answer is directly, u. S. Soldiers have been four months in direct combat in iraq. That has been going on for a couple of years. We were there initially to train and at has developed into a lot more. Bill they are fighting alongside the iraqi army. We havent heard of many casualties in the mosul, u. S. Casualties, anyway. We are lucky so far. The other 5,000 have moved through a rack up into syria to the fight in iraq, which really hasnt started yet. I understand that Kurdish Forces and Turkish Forces are going to be allied with americans in that fight. Is that if you are hearing . Yes. We have actually crossed the border. Bill we are in there now. One of the missions is to separate the forces you described, kurdish and the turks, two separate forces. Militia and their own active military. Then, we are using to call air strikes and develop the battlefield. We will have more forces in kuwait. This battle, what has happened, weve invaded syria,