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FOXNEWSW The Story With Martha MacCallum February 20, 2018

Are under his watch. He was the guy was supposed to bring it all together and assess what was going on. Remember his post was created after 9 11 because of a tragic lack of dots connecting in the run up to the attack. How did he do connecting the dots, which was his child . Compare what clapper said the summer before when clinton and trump were still out there campaigning in the outcome was still months away with what he is saying now. It was just a screw up of trouble or was it ultimately to try and influence the election. We dont know enough to say the motivations. I dont think theres any question about it was clear the russians were trying to interfere with the election. Martha clappers latest comments were and reacted to a series of very interesting tweets over the weekend from facebooks robert goldman, who says of this. He said, ive seen all the russian ads, and i can say very definitively that swanky reelection was not the main goal. If the majority the russian ad spend happened after the election. Trace gallagher following the story for us. Good evening. President trumps rapidfire birth with more than a dozen tweets this Holiday Weekend usually went after the usual targets, those who believes who are carrying out a witch hunt against him like cnn, the democratic party, and former president obama. He also added a few surprises by admonishing an ally. One of the ranking democrats, adam schiff, was pressed on something that trump has been saying for more than a year, the fact that russian meddling began midway through president obamas second term. Schiff said this on cnn. I said all along that i thought the Obama Administration should done more. When we discovered and could attribute the comment to russia, senator feinstein and i took the first step to make public attribution because at that time i couldnt get the Obama Administration to acknowledge the russians interference. Schiff went on to say that trump is making the same mistake that obama made in not countering russian. Going after the previous administration, mr. Trump tweeted, finally little schiff, the leaking monster of no control, is now blaming the Obama Administration for russian meddling in the 2016 election. He is finally right about something. Obama was president , new up of the threat, and did nothing. Thank you adam. When h. R. Mcmaster said that Robert Muellers indictment of more than a dozen russians accused of meddling is now beyond dispute. President trump fired up this, general mcmaster forgot to say that the results of the 2016 election were not impacted or changed by the russians, and that the only collusion was between russia and cricket hillary. The Democratic National committee and the dems. They are now telling President Trump not to claim that russian indictment vindicates his campaign because its unclear whether mueller will issue more indictments down the road. Conservatives also want to know why when president obama was warned about russian interference in 2014, his administration disregarded it. Martha thank you very much. Joining me now, tammy bruce and a Fox News Contributor philippe reines. Felipe, let me start with you. You hear the argument laid out the under president obamas watch, all this is going on at the time. The comments we got from the top brass intel that it really wasnt a big deal. Even when President Trump, candidate trump suggested that there might be some sort of fraud, some reason to doubt the election, president obama came out full force and said absolutely not, nobody can mess with the American Election. The tune changed dramatically after the outcome of the election. On the theme of the nba allstar game, i think what donald trump did very good and very well in 2016 and 2016 was work the refs. I dont think was what the Obama Administration did about the intelligence, its about what they said about it. In may 2016, clapper knowing what he did at that time, said they were targeting the campaign. In july was when the dnc was hacked. If you remember, Donald Trumps first instinct was to say the dnc hacked itself. It wasnt until september that the entire Intelligence Community came together and said that they unanimously believe it was russia and they had intelligence that putin himself did it. The next time that obamas putin, he told him to drop it, stop. Playing politics is not saying anything because they were so worried about what donald trump would say about the legitimacy of the election. If you remember, he was questioning a great deal that they the white house only wanted to speak publicly if they had paul ryan and Mitch Mcconnell with them. Paul ryan agreed and Mitch Mcconnell refused. He said, if you do this, im going to say youre doing this just to hurt donald trump. Martha what they said in my public and what they should have been going behind the scenes are very different things. They apparently did not have the hair on fire and what we would like to see from an intelligence agency, if indeed all of this is going on. Now they say it really is. I think thats the case when it comes to president obama and mcconnell and orion. Its the only time a president obama just need a phone and pen. He did more than just a silent. In october, he told donald trump to stop whining, that no serious person would consider this an even remote possibility that anyone could affect the American Election because they are so disperse. He wasnt just quiet. He didnt just not say something. He mocked and chastise people who were warning about it. It started back in act 2012 when he mocked mitt romney for saying exactly the same thing. These are interesting questions. I think politically when it comes to the arguments that are now being made against the president , these are important and valid thing to point out when it comes to what president obama, up until the election when they thought hillary was winning, they didnt want to cloud over the election, only until late december did president obama get a fire under his chair and mack order to do something. We now know that was to set this all forward. In october 2016, while president obama said out loud that he did not fear the Voting System being hacked because our Voting System, which we learn from 2000, are terrible. For someone to hack all of them would be near impossible. He was not talking about their attempt to do that. Martha we are concerned about russian meddling. We saw what happened this summer with the dnc. We are very worried about it. There was a hushhush feeling because everybody thought hillary would win and was the candidate he wanted to win. Everyone wanted to sit on this whole thing and wait until it went away. They had donald trump in their heads. They thought she would win. They didnt want him to say that the Obama Administration tip the scale by saying dont vote for him. If they said something, people would have thought the russians are making you vote. He would have said that thats not fair. Martha, to be honest, i wish president obama had said more. I think thats part of the problem. You are saying that barack obama was controlled by the fear of what either of the russians would have made possible or the russians have said or donald trump had said and not dealing with a serious mess of it. Martha just one second because i want to get one more thought in here. The money is minuscule the russians spent on this whole thing. One of the other takeaways is all that sunk in over the weekend that it didnt look like a terribly big deal. A Million Dollars compared to a 2 billion election. How much influence, when you look at all the other influences that were out there, doesnt it seem like a bit of a stretch to say that this was the factor that made hillary lose . Speak up now, i dont think so. Its one of the factors. I would go back to jim comey, but without going down that rabbit hole, i would say what it did was, spending over a million a month on a campaign is more than probably rick perry did. They were more effective than most of the republican field, which i think should be very unnerving. We should ask if they had western help. Your audience is aware of certain things, whether its socalled pizza gate or southbridge. Those things came from the podesta email. The hack of the podesta email was a basically free advertising for all of these negative things. If the russians spend even a dollar on screwing around with us, its a dollar we should not martha the president said they are laughing their butts off because they got it back a million times over by sowing discord. If i could at what really made that Million Dollars, not a month, 1. 2 million the entire campaign overall is the fact that the democrats, the media, and liberals rode on those coat tails, rode this notion that the election was not valid, the divisions between americans, michael moore, the march on washington, this is not my president , this is a fraud, the attempts to nullify done by actors here, using that kind of rhetoric is what the president was alluding to ins tweet. If they want to chaos, they succeeded based on what americans were doing in the midst of this as well. What mueller said on friday is that the russians paid for a pro trump protest or pro trump rally the same day that they paid for and antitrump rally in the same city. Martha its the chaos. They wanted to so chaos, which they certainly got. We are still in a pure think you guys. I got to leave it there. Coming up tonight, the future of the fbi and its director Christopher Wray is a very big question tonight. Are politics trumping what the president calls the basics at the borough . Former fbi assistant director joins me next. To speak of the fbi is engaged in a bunch of stuff that is wasteful and isnt going to take us anywhere. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown musical tempurpedic delivers. Only tempur material precisely conforms to your weight, shape and temperature. And tempurpedic is the best at minimizing motion transfer from your partner, so you wont be disturbed during the night. Youll wake up, feeling like a champion. This president s day save up to 600 on select Adjustable Mattress sets from the brand ranked highest in Customer Satisfaction with mattresses by j. D. Power. Find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic. 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Yeah, Liberty Mutual 24hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. My dad says our insurance doesnt have that. Dont worry i know what a lug wrench is, dad. Is this a lug wrench . Maybe . You can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. Liberty stands with you™. Liberty mutual insurance. May be the should stop trying to find every case a Sexual Harassment in the white house and maybe they should give up on this ridiculous pursuit. Clearly, this is my point. A lot of people knew, a lot of people had every bit of knowledge they knew to act on this guy, to surveilled this guy. We were told, we cant do anything until the crimes been committed. Thats what has to change. Martha the acute Florida School shooter with his head down and his eyes on the floor in court for his status hearing just a few short hours ago. He joins a shocking club, whose members include the boston bombers in the chelsea bomber, each one had brushes and interactions with the fbi, and a citizen who did what they were supposed to do and blew the whistle. But they got away, and they killed and injured innocent people. Ron hosko joined me now. He has three decades of experience working for the agency that he dedicated so much of his life too. Its good good to have you here tonight. Thank you very much for being with us. To that charge, in the president made a similar claim, that there is too much focus on russia and at some of these other things and not enough on the basics at the fbi and the agency has become politicized. What do you say . Speak out martha, the fbi, agent workforces somewhere between 2,014,000 people. Thats roughly the size of the new york police department. What does the fbi had to cover with those numbers of agents . International investigations that include counterterrorism, counterespionage, thousands right there, cyber, and criminal cases rage into public corruption to gangs to Violent Crime to whitecollar corruptio corruption. They had to do that on a global scale. Thats a lot to do. I understand the political rhetoric thats going on and a lot of it directed at the fbi right now, but we are talking about very few resources compared to the size of the range of workforce that are devoted to support bob mueller right now, that we are devoted to support the Hillary Clinton investigation. I dont think that politics is dominating with the fbi does. Its a very, very small part of what it is. Martha understood and well taken your point. But when people listen to what happened here, how can a school expel someone come out right . His name is in some sort of public database for the School System and im sure. This could have been expelled. Then you have the fbi, someone who clearly reaches out says he has a gun, he has a motive, and we know from the previous time that he wanted to be a school shooter. Why is there not an alarm bell that goes off, that those databases talk to each other and say wow, we need to go check this out. If the fbi has too much on their plate, call the local Law Enforcement and say we put all this together, you guys need to do this. This can happen, obviously. Im sure it kills you that this happen. It does. It hurts all of us, karen people working for the fbi and those of us who have spent our careers there. It is a catastrophic tragedy. Period. It may be a failure, it may be a technology failure, it may be both. To your second point, i think that would be the path. First, the fbi has no jurisdiction in investigating proposed or would be school shooters. They do have some narrow jurisdiction to support the local Law Enforcement response in an active shooter situation. The option in my mind would be having this clear, convincing evidence from somebody close to cruz. They should a package that up. It should have gone to the miami office and deliver to state and local Law Enforcement having jurisdiction over that school. The systems failed that community, failed their school, and in ways of failed this child, cruz, hes an adult male, probably failed him all along. Weve heard reports of them having multiple visits and having the wrong assessments. Police being out there a dozen times having wrong assessments. Martha let me ask you something. How often does this happen that these many wires are tripped . As an fbi person do you say, we get those kind of messages every day . Or is a message like this that is a credible assessment of somebody they know well . Does that happen a lot what we saw here . Speak out tips from the community do trigger new investigations, whether its criminal, particularly terror, cyber investigations, that happens all the time. This was an fbi failure, and the director is going to have to account for it. Martha do you think the director should go . Should a person that should have passed this along go . I think the failure was in West Virginia at the tip line. We dont know what the details are yet, and i think if its a people failure, then Christopher Wray need to take the right personnel action. That might be one person fired or multiple people fired. Got to find facts first. Martha ron hosko, always good to have you sir. Shortcomings at the fbi that we just discussed begs the question, does the change we need to see begin at home . Does it begin in church . The nfls Benjamin Watson with a very powerful message for all of us. Placida hope and dr. Carol swain on how to change our troubled culture from the bottom up. I had met him a couple times before. He had spent the night at the house, and he was very polite. He seemed normal. Dont we need that cable box to watch tv . Nope. Dont we need to run . Nope. It just explodes in a high pitched yeahhh. yeahhh try directv now for 10 a month for 3 months. No satellite needed. Martha on this president s day, when the teenagers of high school in parkland, florida, should have been home enjoying a day off, they were attending funerals for their classmates. These images are heart wrenching and ignited a fierce debate in this country, as politicians, the media, and beyond all try to pin the game on guncontrol or mental illness. Outspoken nfl player Benjamin Watson has this message for everyone. In a pass and it facebook post, he writes, while justice demands this young man in my apartment for to be held accountable for the heinous plan he carried out by his own volition, we must have the courage to take an honest assessment of our culture in its totality and how it relates to this tragedy and others like it. Baltimore ravens

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