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Martha Governor Kemp is going to join me in moments. He is here to respond some heavy criticism of his plan and even potential legal action. Here is Atlanta Mayor. We are going to have to figure out if we legally have grounds to put in different orders in atlanta. Martha restrictions are loosening elsewhere in the south. Take a look at these, may 1st in tennessee, majority of businesses are going to be allowed to reopen then. Also South Carolina, certain retail sales and the beaches are going to open a 20 capacity. There is the South Carolina plan. Lets take another look at georgia. Georgias population is 10. 6 Million People. As of noon today, 3700 of those 10. 6 million are hospitalized with covid19 and they have had today 799 deaths. Now its been 14 days since the projected peak of daily deaths in georgia according to the widely cited ihme modeling. That model assumes that current social distancing policies stay in place throughout the next couple months. So lets bring in the governor from georgia, brian kemp. Governor, thank you very much for being here this evening. Its good to have you with us. Let me begin i guess by asking you great to have you. Let me ask you to respond to the Atlanta Mayor because obviously atlanta is a very dense population, and she clearly has some big concerns about reopening the places that you would like to open. Martha, the mayor and i have a great relationship. She is working very hard, just like all local elected officials are to protect their population. I am doing the same thing. We have worked together on a lot of things. I have heard her comments about this issue. Had a lot of brazen criticism. We are taking a measured step. I would urge people to really look at the guidance that we are going to be putting out the rest of the week. I announce this on monday so we can have time to educate the public and the Business Owners this is just not handing them the keys back to go back to where we were. This is a measured approach with a lot of different requirements and guidance that we are going to be putting out. Very confident of that step. It was done in conjunction with Public Health officials based on the data that we are seeing in the state and the gateways to the phase one part of the president s plan. Martha al all right, so we just watched dr. Deborah birx and she was questioned about your plan to reopen on friday. She said that she feels that its incumbent i am paraphrasing, and combined about governors such as yourself to be very transparent about the data that you use to make this decision. Can you explain to everyone at home tonight, what is the data that brought you to this conclusion, especially given the fact that deaths are still rising in georgia. What data did you use . I think its important for people to understand how the data comes in. A lot of the data that we are posting today, the testing whether fatality may have happened five or six days ago. Based on the type of reporting this being done. I spent all weekend working with a doctor who was a great evening geologist, great Public Health official, one of the best i think in the country. I did not make this decision without her support. Report over this data. We were looking at all kind of different models. Ive had hospital ceos that ive been in contact with. They reached their peak way back on april 6. Ive spoken to them about the idea of doing some elective surgeries. They were supporting that decision. They support a measured opening which is what we are doing. Its going to be limited in scope. Basic operations. We are talking about a few businesses that i closed down to help flatten the curve which we have done in our state. For us to continue to ask them to do that while they lose everything, quite honestly, there are a lot of civil repercussions of that, Mental Health issues. We are seeing more patients in our Trauma Centers in our state. Because people are just, they are tired of it. Its a tough balance. I understand where folks like the mayor and others may agree or disagree. Ive got some people that are protesting me because i took this step and i may have others that protest because i didnt go far enough. But what weve been doing, martha, and i would like to just explain, we took measured steps to get to the shelter in place, no we are taking measured steps to come out of it. This is not a giant leap forward. Martha can you tell me what you mean by that . For instance, in atlanta, someones wants to get their nails done or their hair done on friday or attached to or go to a gym, these are very close contact kinds of businesses. They are the first ones on your list. Can you explain why you would start with those kinds of businesses on day one . Well, those are the ones that were closed. The other businesses in georgia are still currently opening under the order that i have now. We are coming down. I think thats what a lot of people dont understand but you also have to give that fitness owner or that owner of the hair salon the ability to be able to be a partner in this fight that we are in. They are going to have to follow the strict guidelines. I would tell you that i would imagine there are people in gyms that will be a lot safer than they would be going to the Grocery Store or some of the other places of business that are part of the Critical Infrastructure spend designated by the federal level. This is going to take some common sense. Our people have learned. They have helped us be a solution to the problem of flatten the curve and start getting to the other side of it. Our hospital capacity. You have to remember the reason we did this to start with is so we had time to build up hospital capacity. We are having record vacancies in our hospitals right now because we were getting ready for the surge. They are bleeding money, and they need help as well as our local Business Owners. Martha i understand that. We are prepared for what may come with us and we are prepared, we are ramping up testing. Ive talked extensively about that my press conference on monday. We have almost 3,000 National Guard troops that are cleaning longterm care facilities. We can go to hot spots, whether its longtermcare or other vulnerable populations in the state and then doing this its going to allow our Public Health officials to do Contact Tracing which is another part of the plan that dr. Birx talked about. Martha ive got a couple questions i would love to get in a couple quickly with you. You said businesses have to screen for illnesses. How are they going to do that . Give the gym example. If someone wants to walk into a gym in atlanta and we just for the mayor doesnt think atlanta is ready for this, if i want to go to the gym in atlanta on friday, how are they going to screen me . Well, its not saying theyve got to screen them. These are best practices. They could do temperature screening. They can do the verbal guidelines that all businesses should be giving their employees now, educating them. Do not come to work, the potential for testing now and in the future. Theres common sense things that people can do and we are already doing that with businesses in our state. I got heavily criticized for keeping our state parks open and our beaches open. We have at absolutely no problem with allowing people to go out and get some exercise. They have practiced social distancing. They have behave themselves. In fact, we had people from other states coming to georgia because they had close their parks. Martha i think theres a lot of widespread, while we had to close all the parks, think its one of the Big Questions that a lot of americans have. I want to stay with you on this point. Screening, lets say that the gym decides theyre going to test everybodys temperature with a walkin. But as we all know there are asymptomatic people who are contagious to every person that they come in contact with potentially. Once you got a fever, its already too late. Youve been five days of being someone who can spread that disease. So how are you going to screen these people who want to go to these businesses . The same could be happening at the Grocery Store and other places. Thats why the fitness owners, i have great confidence in them spreading people out when they are doing a workout. Doing this additional sanitation that we have all been learned how to do now and taking those precautions with hand sanitation and having the folks working in the facilities Wearing Masks and other things. Well be putting those guidelines out. If people dont want to go, they dont have to go. If people dont want to open the gym, they dont have to. But when you close somebodys business down and take their livelihood of that individual and those employees and they are literally at the base of losing everything, im willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I think theyre going to do the right thing and we are going to continue focus on testing and Contact Tracing and all the other things. Martha everybody in this country is going to be watching your state because youre one of the most aggressive and the earliest in this process, and youve got mirrors in albany and manners in atlanta were very much against it. You are almost going to be, and i hope that you are making the right decision and that it keeps people healthy. I would argue if you take out albany out of the situation now, our state is a much different place. Because of a person going to a funeral a month and a half ago when people didnt know that that was not a good thing to do, albany has had more deaths im pretty sure in saying this then atlanta has. So you have to be relative with the data youre looking at. I am looking at it every day, every hour of every day. I know in albany there hospital down there is now taking patients from other areas. That tells you we are in a good space down there because we reacted quickly to a really bad situation and we are prepared to continue to do that around the rest of our state. Martha very quickly if you can, you are the home of the Delta Air Lines hub in atlanta. How are you going to deal with Delta Airlines fare . The president is talking about closing the borders for immigration. Are you concerned that you are going to get your house in order and people going to keep flying through atlanta and bringing things from other places . I would tell people the great state of georgia has taken a lot of people from around the country, our state, when nobody else what was taking cruiseship passengers in a very tough situation and we were glad to work with the president and the Vice President to do that. Were worked with our airport, as weve had other cruise passengers that have been flown into our state. We had to transport them to other places. I can tell you that thats a wellrun airport. They handled those situations great. We have great communication with them. Their general manager is on my task force and i will continue to deal with those type of situations, working with the president , working with the Vice President , the task force, the guidance that we are getting from cdc and thats what we are going to be asking our georgias news owners who do as well as our hardworking employees in this state. Martha well, we certainly wish you and the people of georgia luck and health and we hope this early experiment in reopening is hugely successful because everybody in the country wants to get back open, wants to get back to work. We certainly hope that we don dont a measured approach. Martha all right, governor, i hope youll come back and let us know how its going. We love to hear a followup from you in a week or so. Well do it. Thank you. Martha governor brian kemp. I know hes going to have a discussion later on with the president. The president mentioned that. Your enemy now is dr. Marty mccarrick, professor of Health Policy and management of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. And fox news medical contributor. Doctor, thank you very much for being here i know you got a chance to listen to my discussion with Governor Kemp and im very curious what you think. Good evening, martha. I am concerned that georgia is violating the white house guidelines because we decided as a country that were going to make the sacrifice together. Georgia has not yet reached its peak. Georgia had 85 deaths just on monday from the virus, and theyve been averaging about 35 per day. At the same time, look, i grew up in a rural area. Our problem right now is not tattoo parlors. Its not nail salons. Its protecting those who are at high risk. And it does make sense that we can have a different policy in atlanta than we do in say, lagrange georgia. So we have the example of Grocery Stores. We have seen how right now they are functioning. Theyre using a lot of distancing a lot of hygiene and that business is able to function to some degree. Martha yeah. I should point out that the ihme model says that georgia reached its peak on april 7. Obviously there are different models out there, and as i pointed out in the beginning, the number went up. By 66 people today. To 799. Its still a lot of people. So i want to ask you a little bit about the studies that we are seeing out of california. Los angeles did a study and stanford did this study. They are testing the population to see how many people have immunity or antibodies, i should say, to the coronavirus, to covid19. What its showing according to these studies is that the numbers that we are all seeing in terms of cases are extremely low compared to whats out the there. 20 to 80 times higher in terms of what these tests are taking if you extrapolate them to the general population. Whats your response to what youre seeing in these tests in california . First of all, good point. We are at the plateau. This is what the plateau looks like and feels like and there is some noise in the data by the country is generally around the same time. If we go back and look at this l. A. County study, its very interesting. They looked at about 800 people and tested them for the antibody and found that 4 tested positive. That means l. A. County, they extrapolated population, had about 222 420,000 people exposed to the infection. The only reported 8,000 confirmed cases which tells you the number of confirmed cases is not reliable. I have not been paying attention to those numbers for a long time and instead focused on deaths and hospitalizations. So when people read these maps and im not speaking on behalf of Johns Hopkins. I love our map. But when people read the number of confirmed cases off the map, they have got to recognize that they are understanding the problem, and this l. A. Study suggests that the number may be 55 times higher. Martha yeah. I mean, it seems in a weird way that that is good news because a lot more people have been exposed to it, have hopefully built up antibodies to it. It would also mean that in the end, if these numbers are truthful across the country and we dont know the answer to that yet, that the fatality rate overall would be much lower. Correct . Yeah, maybe ten times lower. We were seeing fatality rates that didnt make any sense early on. It also tells us that weve got a silent army of immune people that could be an effective firewall come the fall or later in this spring. Thats a positive thing. There are some positive signs to this study. Martha before i let you go, do you think the governor of georgia is making a mistake to open friday . Yeah, i think we need to stick together as a country. But the same time, its reasonable in rural areas to do things with distancing and precautions. I just dont like the idea of somebody breaking from the pack here. We have taken a sacrifice together as a country. Martha good point. Dr. Marty makary, thank you very much. Great to have you with us tonight. Great to be with you, martha. Martha washington signaling for small Business Owners today that if you havent received a loan, you will soon. One michigan Business Owner who was shot out of the ppp, the payroll protection program, she sat on the first time around, says that her business is on lifesupport and she is not alone. A lot of people want their hands on this money and soon. Also, senator marco rubio says any business who abused that program shed be investigated and should be subject to punishment. Thats next. N my tv and boom, its got all my favorite shows right there. I wish my Trading Platform worked like that. Well have you tried thinkorswim . This is totally customizable, so you focus only on what you want. Okay, its got screeners and watchlists. And you can even see how your predictions might affect the value of the stocks youre interested in. Now this is what im talking about. Yeah, itll free up more time for your. Uh, true crime shows . British baking competitions. Hm. Didnt peg you for a crumpet guy. Focus on what matters to you with thinkorswim. A 10 Million Dollar fundls at t has created to support Distance Learning tools, curriculum and resources to help educators and families keep school in session because the key to keeping kids learning, is keeping kids connected. Many of lifes moments in thare being put on hold. Are staying at home, at carvana, we understand that, for some, getting a car just cant wait. To help, were giving our customers up to 90 days to make their first payment. Shop online from the comfort of your couch, and get your car with touchless delivery to keep you safe. And for even Greater Peace of mind, all carvana cars come with a sevenday return policy. So, if you need to keep moving, were here for you. At carvana the safer way to buy a car. Martha a new round of Economic Relief crossing a key hurdle. The Governor Kemp<\/a> is going to join me in moments. He is here to respond some heavy criticism of his plan and even potential legal action. Here is Atlanta Mayor<\/a>. We are going to have to figure out if we legally have grounds to put in different orders in atlanta. Martha restrictions are loosening elsewhere in the south. Take a look at these, may 1st in tennessee, majority of businesses are going to be allowed to reopen then. Also South Carolina<\/a>, certain retail sales and the beaches are going to open a 20 capacity. There is the South Carolina<\/a> plan. Lets take another look at georgia. Georgias population is 10. 6 Million People<\/a>. As of noon today, 3700 of those 10. 6 million are hospitalized with covid19 and they have had today 799 deaths. Now its been 14 days since the projected peak of daily deaths in georgia according to the widely cited ihme modeling. That model assumes that current social distancing policies stay in place throughout the next couple months. So lets bring in the governor from georgia, brian kemp. Governor, thank you very much for being here this evening. Its good to have you with us. Let me begin i guess by asking you great to have you. Let me ask you to respond to the Atlanta Mayor<\/a> because obviously atlanta is a very dense population, and she clearly has some big concerns about reopening the places that you would like to open. Martha, the mayor and i have a great relationship. She is working very hard, just like all local elected officials are to protect their population. I am doing the same thing. We have worked together on a lot of things. I have heard her comments about this issue. Had a lot of brazen criticism. We are taking a measured step. I would urge people to really look at the guidance that we are going to be putting out the rest of the week. I announce this on monday so we can have time to educate the public and the Business Owners<\/a> this is just not handing them the keys back to go back to where we were. This is a measured approach with a lot of different requirements and guidance that we are going to be putting out. Very confident of that step. It was done in conjunction with Public Health<\/a> officials based on the data that we are seeing in the state and the gateways to the phase one part of the president s plan. Martha al all right, so we just watched dr. Deborah birx and she was questioned about your plan to reopen on friday. She said that she feels that its incumbent i am paraphrasing, and combined about governors such as yourself to be very transparent about the data that you use to make this decision. Can you explain to everyone at home tonight, what is the data that brought you to this conclusion, especially given the fact that deaths are still rising in georgia. What data did you use . I think its important for people to understand how the data comes in. A lot of the data that we are posting today, the testing whether fatality may have happened five or six days ago. Based on the type of reporting this being done. I spent all weekend working with a doctor who was a great evening geologist, great Public Health<\/a> official, one of the best i think in the country. I did not make this decision without her support. Report over this data. We were looking at all kind of different models. Ive had hospital ceos that ive been in contact with. They reached their peak way back on april 6. Ive spoken to them about the idea of doing some elective surgeries. They were supporting that decision. They support a measured opening which is what we are doing. Its going to be limited in scope. Basic operations. We are talking about a few businesses that i closed down to help flatten the curve which we have done in our state. For us to continue to ask them to do that while they lose everything, quite honestly, there are a lot of civil repercussions of that, Mental Health<\/a> issues. We are seeing more patients in our Trauma Centers<\/a> in our state. Because people are just, they are tired of it. Its a tough balance. I understand where folks like the mayor and others may agree or disagree. Ive got some people that are protesting me because i took this step and i may have others that protest because i didnt go far enough. But what weve been doing, martha, and i would like to just explain, we took measured steps to get to the shelter in place, no we are taking measured steps to come out of it. This is not a giant leap forward. Martha can you tell me what you mean by that . For instance, in atlanta, someones wants to get their nails done or their hair done on friday or attached to or go to a gym, these are very close contact kinds of businesses. They are the first ones on your list. Can you explain why you would start with those kinds of businesses on day one . Well, those are the ones that were closed. The other businesses in georgia are still currently opening under the order that i have now. We are coming down. I think thats what a lot of people dont understand but you also have to give that fitness owner or that owner of the hair salon the ability to be able to be a partner in this fight that we are in. They are going to have to follow the strict guidelines. I would tell you that i would imagine there are people in gyms that will be a lot safer than they would be going to the Grocery Store<\/a> or some of the other places of business that are part of the Critical Infrastructure<\/a> spend designated by the federal level. This is going to take some common sense. Our people have learned. They have helped us be a solution to the problem of flatten the curve and start getting to the other side of it. Our hospital capacity. You have to remember the reason we did this to start with is so we had time to build up hospital capacity. We are having record vacancies in our hospitals right now because we were getting ready for the surge. They are bleeding money, and they need help as well as our local Business Owners<\/a>. Martha i understand that. We are prepared for what may come with us and we are prepared, we are ramping up testing. Ive talked extensively about that my press conference on monday. We have almost 3,000 National Guard<\/a> troops that are cleaning longterm care facilities. We can go to hot spots, whether its longtermcare or other vulnerable populations in the state and then doing this its going to allow our Public Health<\/a> officials to do Contact Tracing<\/a> which is another part of the plan that dr. Birx talked about. Martha ive got a couple questions i would love to get in a couple quickly with you. You said businesses have to screen for illnesses. How are they going to do that . Give the gym example. If someone wants to walk into a gym in atlanta and we just for the mayor doesnt think atlanta is ready for this, if i want to go to the gym in atlanta on friday, how are they going to screen me . Well, its not saying theyve got to screen them. These are best practices. They could do temperature screening. They can do the verbal guidelines that all businesses should be giving their employees now, educating them. Do not come to work, the potential for testing now and in the future. Theres common sense things that people can do and we are already doing that with businesses in our state. I got heavily criticized for keeping our state parks open and our beaches open. We have at absolutely no problem with allowing people to go out and get some exercise. They have practiced social distancing. They have behave themselves. In fact, we had people from other states coming to georgia because they had close their parks. Martha i think theres a lot of widespread, while we had to close all the parks, think its one of the Big Questions<\/a> that a lot of americans have. I want to stay with you on this point. Screening, lets say that the gym decides theyre going to test everybodys temperature with a walkin. But as we all know there are asymptomatic people who are contagious to every person that they come in contact with potentially. Once you got a fever, its already too late. Youve been five days of being someone who can spread that disease. So how are you going to screen these people who want to go to these businesses . The same could be happening at the Grocery Store<\/a> and other places. Thats why the fitness owners, i have great confidence in them spreading people out when they are doing a workout. Doing this additional sanitation that we have all been learned how to do now and taking those precautions with hand sanitation and having the folks working in the facilities Wearing Masks<\/a> and other things. Well be putting those guidelines out. If people dont want to go, they dont have to go. If people dont want to open the gym, they dont have to. But when you close somebodys business down and take their livelihood of that individual and those employees and they are literally at the base of losing everything, im willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I think theyre going to do the right thing and we are going to continue focus on testing and Contact Tracing<\/a> and all the other things. Martha everybody in this country is going to be watching your state because youre one of the most aggressive and the earliest in this process, and youve got mirrors in albany and manners in atlanta were very much against it. You are almost going to be, and i hope that you are making the right decision and that it keeps people healthy. I would argue if you take out albany out of the situation now, our state is a much different place. Because of a person going to a funeral a month and a half ago when people didnt know that that was not a good thing to do, albany has had more deaths im pretty sure in saying this then atlanta has. So you have to be relative with the data youre looking at. I am looking at it every day, every hour of every day. I know in albany there hospital down there is now taking patients from other areas. That tells you we are in a good space down there because we reacted quickly to a really bad situation and we are prepared to continue to do that around the rest of our state. Martha very quickly if you can, you are the home of the Delta Air Lines<\/a> hub in atlanta. How are you going to deal with Delta Airlines<\/a> fare . The president is talking about closing the borders for immigration. Are you concerned that you are going to get your house in order and people going to keep flying through atlanta and bringing things from other places . I would tell people the great state of georgia has taken a lot of people from around the country, our state, when nobody else what was taking cruiseship passengers in a very tough situation and we were glad to work with the president and the Vice President<\/a> to do that. Were worked with our airport, as weve had other cruise passengers that have been flown into our state. We had to transport them to other places. I can tell you that thats a wellrun airport. They handled those situations great. We have great communication with them. Their general manager is on my task force and i will continue to deal with those type of situations, working with the president , working with the Vice President<\/a> , the task force, the guidance that we are getting from cdc and thats what we are going to be asking our georgias news owners who do as well as our hardworking employees in this state. Martha well, we certainly wish you and the people of georgia luck and health and we hope this early experiment in reopening is hugely successful because everybody in the country wants to get back open, wants to get back to work. We certainly hope that we don dont a measured approach. Martha all right, governor, i hope youll come back and let us know how its going. We love to hear a followup from you in a week or so. Well do it. Thank you. Martha governor brian kemp. I know hes going to have a discussion later on with the president. The president mentioned that. Your enemy now is dr. Marty mccarrick, professor of Health Policy<\/a> and management of the Johns Hopkins<\/a> Bloomberg School<\/a> of Public Health<\/a>. And fox news medical contributor. Doctor, thank you very much for being here i know you got a chance to listen to my discussion with Governor Kemp<\/a> and im very curious what you think. Good evening, martha. I am concerned that georgia is violating the white house guidelines because we decided as a country that were going to make the sacrifice together. Georgia has not yet reached its peak. Georgia had 85 deaths just on monday from the virus, and theyve been averaging about 35 per day. At the same time, look, i grew up in a rural area. Our problem right now is not tattoo parlors. Its not nail salons. Its protecting those who are at high risk. And it does make sense that we can have a different policy in atlanta than we do in say, lagrange georgia. So we have the example of Grocery Store<\/a>s. We have seen how right now they are functioning. Theyre using a lot of distancing a lot of hygiene and that business is able to function to some degree. Martha yeah. I should point out that the ihme model says that georgia reached its peak on april 7. Obviously there are different models out there, and as i pointed out in the beginning, the number went up. By 66 people today. To 799. Its still a lot of people. So i want to ask you a little bit about the studies that we are seeing out of california. Los angeles did a study and stanford did this study. They are testing the population to see how many people have immunity or antibodies, i should say, to the coronavirus, to covid19. What its showing according to these studies is that the numbers that we are all seeing in terms of cases are extremely low compared to whats out the there. 20 to 80 times higher in terms of what these tests are taking if you extrapolate them to the general population. Whats your response to what youre seeing in these tests in california . First of all, good point. We are at the plateau. This is what the plateau looks like and feels like and there is some noise in the data by the country is generally around the same time. If we go back and look at this l. A. County study, its very interesting. They looked at about 800 people and tested them for the antibody and found that 4 tested positive. That means l. A. County, they extrapolated population, had about 222 420,000 people exposed to the infection. The only reported 8,000 confirmed cases which tells you the number of confirmed cases is not reliable. I have not been paying attention to those numbers for a long time and instead focused on deaths and hospitalizations. So when people read these maps and im not speaking on behalf of Johns Hopkins<\/a>. I love our map. But when people read the number of confirmed cases off the map, they have got to recognize that they are understanding the problem, and this l. A. Study suggests that the number may be 55 times higher. Martha yeah. I mean, it seems in a weird way that that is good news because a lot more people have been exposed to it, have hopefully built up antibodies to it. It would also mean that in the end, if these numbers are truthful across the country and we dont know the answer to that yet, that the fatality rate overall would be much lower. Correct . Yeah, maybe ten times lower. We were seeing fatality rates that didnt make any sense early on. It also tells us that weve got a silent army of immune people that could be an effective firewall come the fall or later in this spring. Thats a positive thing. There are some positive signs to this study. Martha before i let you go, do you think the governor of georgia is making a mistake to open friday . Yeah, i think we need to stick together as a country. But the same time, its reasonable in rural areas to do things with distancing and precautions. I just dont like the idea of somebody breaking from the pack here. We have taken a sacrifice together as a country. Martha good point. Dr. Marty makary, thank you very much. Great to have you with us tonight. Great to be with you, martha. Martha washington signaling for small Business Owners<\/a> today that if you havent received a loan, you will soon. One michigan Business Owner<\/a> who was shot out of the ppp, the payroll protection program, she sat on the first time around, says that her business is on lifesupport and she is not alone. A lot of people want their hands on this money and soon. Also, senator marco rubio says any business who abused that program shed be investigated and should be subject to punishment. Thats next. N my tv and boom, its got all my favorite shows right there. I wish my Trading Platform<\/a> worked like that. Well have you tried thinkorswim . This is totally customizable, so you focus only on what you want. Okay, its got screeners and watchlists. And you can even see how your predictions might affect the value of the stocks youre interested in. Now this is what im talking about. Yeah, itll free up more time for your. Uh, true crime shows . British baking competitions. Hm. Didnt peg you for a crumpet guy. Focus on what matters to you with thinkorswim. A 10 Million Dollar<\/a> fundls at t has created to support Distance Learning<\/a> tools, curriculum and resources to help educators and families keep school in session because the key to keeping kids learning, is keeping kids connected. Many of lifes moments in thare being put on hold. Are staying at home, at carvana, we understand that, for some, getting a car just cant wait. To help, were giving our customers up to 90 days to make their first payment. Shop online from the comfort of your couch, and get your car with touchless delivery to keep you safe. And for even Greater Peace<\/a> of mind, all carvana cars come with a sevenday return policy. So, if you need to keep moving, were here for you. At carvana the safer way to buy a car. Martha a new round of Economic Relief<\/a> crossing a key hurdle. The Senate Approved<\/a> a 444 billion covid19 emergency bill by voice vote. A majority will go to the Small Business<\/a>es, the program which went dry last week. Chief Congressional Correspondent<\/a> mike emanuel has the story for us tonight. Good evening, once the deal was struck, the senate moves with lily to approve it and send it to the house. House lawmakers are traveling back to washington and are likely to vote on this package thursday. In terms of whats in it, 322 billion for Small Business<\/a>es. Another 60 billion for Economic Disaster<\/a> loans. 75 billion for hospitals, 25 billion for testing. Top congressional leaders say this package will help some key areas and save jobs. This is a significant package. The senate is continuing to stand by the american people, watching the care zack to go into effect in adding funding when necessary. The fact that democrats said you need to talk to us, not try to steamroll us, once again, made a huge and positive difference. The Small Business<\/a> program has had some embarrassing glitches. The Associated Press<\/a> fighting publicly traded firms received 300 million of the initial Paycheck Protection Program<\/a> loads. The owners of large restaurant chains including pot belly, ruths chris steak house, and taco cabana qualified and were given the maximum 10 million in loans. Thats even though they employed thousands of workers. Others like body when energy which makes Wind Turbines<\/a> in the chicago area employs more than 500 people. That company agreed to be a million agreed to pay a Million Dollar<\/a> fined five years ago accusing it to fail it to inform investors and it suffered substantial decline. Broad when received 9. 5 million from the loan program. There was clearly a rush to get the money out the door feeling like wasted time will cost jobs. Some of that money did not end up going to neighborhood or familyowned type Small Business<\/a>es. Martha. Martha mike, thank you very much. I am joined by a michigan Small Business<\/a> owner was hoping some of this relief money is going to come her way. Mercy is the owner and president of midwest air filter. You tried to get this money on the first round to no. No, we did not seem to qualify for it. Our application was submitted to the sba through our lender. We have not heard back from the sba. We dont know if we have gotten the approval for the loan, nor have we gotten any information on any funding. Martha so what do you thinks going on . I think what happened was is we got caught in the gray area of one funding ran out to when the application was submitted to the sba. I believe much of this issue with the fact that we bank with a lender thats a fairly large lender. It seems that the smaller lenders were funded first or were able to submit their applications through the sba a lot faster. My lender needed to set up their own portal to which then we had to submit the paperwork through there. And then went to the lenders underwriters before it went to the sba. At least thats my knowledge. So once it hits the sba, we havent heard back from them. We understand as a backlog but we do think we got caught up in the gray area between when the application was submitted to when the funding ran out. Martha how is your Company Holding<\/a> up at this point and have you furloughed workers. Are you not what is the situation with your employees . Immediately when the governor in michigan close the state, even though we were considered in central business, 90 of my customers or who i would service, ended up closing. My sales dropped immediately. At that point in time, being a Small Business<\/a>, we are trying to be very proactive because we didnt know what was going to happen, so we did end up furloughing 99 of our workforce. We only have currently three people on payroll that are actively working. I have closed down a few of my branches and im trying to use my grand Rapids Branch<\/a> is a central hub to service our customers. Its been hard. I have been working 80 to 100 hours a week trying to keep the business afloat, trying to do 14 other peoples jobs, trying to satisfy my customers and look them know that im there for them. We need to be creative, create more of a concierge kind of service for them. So we can keep our food processing, our pharmaceutical customers, our critical manufacturing in our medical customers up and running with filtration products. It has been rough and its been ironically rough because i truly am in the business of selling clean air. Not having this money, i have work for my workers but i dont have any income coming in, so i wont know how to pay them. Martha marcy, we hope that this gives you what you need to get through this hump before things get back up and running again. Keep us posted. Thank you very much and good luck to you, marcy. Thank you. Joining me now also tonight is senator marco rubio, chairman of the Senate Committee<\/a> on Small Business<\/a> and entrepreneurship. He says number one reason businesses dont have money at is that democrats have held the program hostage for a week. Senator, thank you so much for being with us tonight. You listened to marcy. Typical businessperson in michigan who hasnt seen any of this money yet. What do you say . Well, i think the assumption that she got caught between the guaranteed money expiring in her application is probably true. I dont know the details of her application but it sounds like thats exactly right, thats precisely the reason why we began warning 13 days ago that we needed to put more money in this program. When this bill passed, everybody, everybody knew that we would need more money at some point. It was a brandnew program. Everybody said lets see how it works before refund more and everybody knew it so what happened is we started to see the trend lines seven days before the money ran out and we said we should probably step up and puts more money in it and immediately Chuck Schumer<\/a> nancy pelosi jumped on it and said we want some other things in addition to it. So today we have now been shut down about five days, about 700,000 applications, like the one you just heard about that event stuck in limbo. It was unnecessary, completely unnecessary. Im glad the Senate Passed<\/a> it today and i hope the house will do the same on thursday and ethically kick started thursday night, friday morning. But people like marcy we just heard from should not have gone through what theyve gone through the last seven days and a lot of it is due to money drying up. Martha heres what the democrats said in their statement from nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer<\/a>. They say democrats flip this emergency package from an insufficient republican plan that left behind hospitals and health and frontline workers and did nothing to a the survival of the most vulnerable Small Business<\/a>es on main street. What say you, senator . Those are unrelated topics. No one is against getting money to hospitals. That probably needed seven today ten days to get worked out. We are fine with finding hospitals and Small Business<\/a>es. Lets do the Small Business<\/a> and because its ready to go now and lets work on the next 70s and get to the hospitals. He dont have to pair these things out. Everyone is for both of these things but one of them is ready to go right away in one not. As far as the changes made, we could have made those changes ten days ago. Focusing more of the additional money on top of whatever we appropriated to the smaller lenders who in fact have not only been the majority of these loans but have move much faster than the bigger banks, that something i was calling for is currently is april 7. This was held up for one simple reason. They wanted a hostage they could use as leverage to negotiate on the topics that they wanted we could have done these things and we could have them separately. Martha senator, one quick question. This app says at least 75 companies that received the aid were publicly traded, the ap found. Some had market values well over 100000000. 25 of the companies had warned their investors months ago while the economy was humming along to their ability to remain viable was in question. Should Companies Like<\/a> that be getting this money . I know you want to investigate some of these and make sure that is going to the right places and places that are deserving of it. Three quick points. If we had required every company that applied for this to produce financial documents, the more sophisticated companies wouldve quickly turned them out and the Smaller Companies<\/a> wouldve struggled. Many wouldnt have tried. If you thought this program was slow in starting, imagine if we require people to show all kinds of financial records so we certainly chose efficiency over that part of it. Never do, everybody who borrows has designed a certification that theyve been harmed by this crisis and they need this loan. And if you sign that certification and thats not true, you have just lied to the federal government. Its falsely certified. The poin third point i was maket that article is it, let me tell you the majority that company those companies probably qualified under existing sba guidelines, not because of anything we change in the ppv program. Ultimately the goal here is to help get money to employees to workers. This is about payroll protection. We want everybody covered. The reason why some people have been left behind is because the program has been underfunded, and note when it ran out of money because the need is so dramatic commented quickly stepping up to the plate and finding it, it was taken as a hostage and used for over seven days as a negotiating ploy. Thats the single biggest impediment to everybody getting included and more will getting into the system. Martha senator marco rubio, thank you. Good to see you, sir. Attorney general bill barr speaking out on the process that we have seen sweeping the nation over the stayathome orders. What he is saying about the unprecedented burden on Civil Liberties<\/a> and livelihoods next. At tmobile, we know that connection is more important than ever. Weve increased network capacity, given more access to unlimited data. And provided free data for schools and students. Visit tmobile. Com to learn more. You can also manage your account, make payments, and find tmobile stores that are open near you. 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Com or call 18778668555. Wed was the last time you got your teeth cleaned . We are not essential apparently. We understand the need to take care of each other but we understand the need to keep the economy going. I am brave enough to go to work on brave enough to be near my fellow humans. Martha 71 of americans want a cautious approach to reopening the country. While 20 say that its time to get back to business now. Some of them have taken to the streets to speak their minds about the unprecedented measures taken to shut down the country and to protect people from covid19. Now attorney general William Barrs<\/a> warning about the potential impact of these stayathome orders. On the rights of individuals. These are unprecedented times. The idea that you have to stay in your house is close to house arrest. Im not saying it wasnt justified and im not saying that in some places it might still be justified but its very onerous, as a shutting down your livelihood. Martha department of justice spokesperson joins me now. Good to see you. How would you further characterize the ags thinking on peoples rights in this moment with regard to leaving their house or saying i need to go to work and do my job and open my business. I think we should take a second to remember how we got here. Our country is seeing an emergency the likes it hasnt seen in some time and when our country is facing an emergency, government can place reasonable and temporary restrictions on Constitutional Rights<\/a>. Provided its necessary to address the emergency. We saw states do this, lock sound orders and shelterinplace orders and again at the time they made sense. We were facing great uncertainty. A highly contagious illness of which we knew little about. This illness threaten to overwhelm our Health Care System<\/a> in a very short period of time. But even during the emergency, Constitutional Rights<\/a> dont fly out the window which is why last week the department of justice filed a statement of interest in that case in mississippi supporting a church in which the city their head placed special restrictions on the church and singled them out really in a way that was unfair and unusually burdensome. I know youve been covering that case on your show. Martha yeah, in mississippi you had a drive in church where people were in their cars and then the police were brought in to shut it down which i think just raise a lot of peoples sensitivities about what could possibly be wrong with that. Now what is the doj thinking on the fact that you can go Grocery Shopping<\/a> and you can stand fairly close to people and you are online at parking next which other but you cant go to a drivein church where you are separately in your cars . Thats why we got involved in that particular case. To your point, just down the street, people were driving up to restaurants and sitting their cars with their windows down eating food. These parishioners were driving up with their windows closed and listening to sermons over the radio. And then Police Officers<\/a> were ticketing the folks in those cars 500 a pop. I understand they have since retracted those funds although it remains a bit unclear as to how that word will be applied to that church going forward. But to your point, martha, as we look ahead and as we move forward and as the situation is changing and we been working on flatten the curve and slowing the spread, we need to look for alternative ways of protecting people in a way that maximizes the health and safety of americans while also preserving our very precious constitutional liberties. Martha do you expect we will see a further statement of interest from the attorney general with regard to some, whats in michigan and other places cs onerous and not necessarily effective measures that have been taken. At the end of the day, the government must adapt its actions to our rights and not the other way around. The attorney general is closely monitoring the situation across the country. We just sat around a conference table at doj a few days ago with some senior lawyers at the department talking through these issues in the department is certainly very much committed to the principle of preserving peoples civil rights making sure that people are abiding by safety and making sure that the states are allowed to continue to prioritize the health of its inhabitants. Its going to look different different places. In nassau county, one of the hardest hit places in the country, where im from, its going to live for look different there than in the middle of wyoming and thats fine but we need to be continue to think and adjust our thinking to make sure were implementing policies that restrict liberties the lease while maximizing the health and safety of americans. Martha well put. Carrie, thank you very much. Good to see you tonight. Well be watching. Civil liberties also bumping into friction with Contact Tracing<\/a>. China is tracking its citizens, categorizing people as green, yellow, or read to reflect their health status. And now some want to bring similar measures to the United States<\/a>. That story coming up next. At papa johns, we want you to know that from our 450degree oven, to box, to you, its our policy that your pizza is never touched once it comes out of the oven. And were taking extra steps, like no contact delivery, to ensure it. You have power over pain, so the whole world looks different. The unbeatable strength of advil. What pain . Martha how much power should the government happened it comes to tracking people infected and possibly contagious with covid19 . In china Massive Survey<\/a> operation collects and stores personal data through an app on your phone. It identifies you as green, yellow, or read to dictate whether you should be quarantined or allowed in public places. In hong kong they were tracking passengers coming in with the electric wristbands to make sure that they stayed home for 14 days before they were allowed to go out. My next guest manufactures those wristbands and says the United States<\/a> could benefit from using them. Joining me now is the ceo of trace safe. Thank you for being here. Good to see you tonight. Thank you for having me, martha. Martha interesting to note in china it said if a user is detected as leaving home, disconnecting their phone or breaking the wristband, and over is sent to the police an alert is sent to the police. I think a lot of americans would find that pretty shocking. I think we should look at how the practice is applied, and it has been successful, especially during the time when there was a lot of returnees from china as well as from europe. Those were the hot spots, and there was a temporary measure put in place at that time to get the community safe. So i think we should look at the selfquarantine and its really not home imprisonment. You are saying heavyduty bracelets. I have one on my wrist. Its very light. Its an encouragement to isolate yourself and keep the community safe. Martha i mean, its an encouragement unless you decide to pull it off and the police show up at your door. Then its a little bit more than encouragement. Is that the way that you see it working in the United States<\/a> . I think a lot of people might see it as an encroachment on their privacy even if they understand the need for people to be open and transparent about their condition. No, i do not believe that it will be applied that way in the United States<\/a>. I think we encourage individual selfmotivation and freedom. We are a very Caring Community<\/a> who takes care of each other, and i think this is just a tool. Technology is there to serve us and to motivate and to help us monitor and obey guidelines. Martha understood. Let me ask you one more question. You say that wearing a bracelet thats tracked on your phone thats linked to the testing the youve had of the amount of time youve been in quarantine is similar to some of what happened after 9 11. Can you explain that . Right, so after 9 11, we know that security at the airports was greatly enhanced. So tsa no conducts security checks a lot more seriously than before 9 11. So those are measures, because theres a threat, a real threat of terrorism, and that threat remains today. However, with covid19, obviously in the hopefully nottoodistant future were going to see vaccines, we are going to see a cure. And the threat will be gone. We are looking at a very short period of time, a temporary measure thats necessary to introduce this time of measures. Speak to it may be. Well see. Dennis, thank you. I guess it appends on after the temporary measure how much of the information gets disconnected from the system but we are going to learn more about it. Thank you very much for being with us tonight. Coming up, why this world war ii veteran is sporting a mohawk during the pandemic in a nod to his days with the 101st airborne. After this. This is something we can do during this present problem that we have that will be solved shortly. To help you through the Current Health<\/a> situation cvs pharmacy is now offering free one to twoday delivery of prescriptions and everyday essentials. Visit cvs. Com delivery or call your local pharmacy to learn more. Free prescription delivery from cvs. Me too. Me too. And if youre a Small Business<\/a>, were with you. Standing by you every step of the way. Bye bye. That Liberty Mutual<\/a> customizes your insurance, i just love hitting the open road and telling people so you only pay for what you need [squawks] only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Heath had his first mohawk back in 1944 as a way to intimidate the germans as before storming the beaches on dday. Now a world war ii paratrooper guy whidden is sporting that silence again to make people smile. Watch. I would like to have my hair cut as a tribute to all of the fallen airborne guys up in the skies. So lets have some fun with it. Oh, my. I like it. [laughs] he said i feel like a young buck. Joining us now as his granddaughter, lydia. Thanks so much for being here. Are you surprised at how much attention your grandfathers haircut and well see what he was staying at the time has caught on . I think our entire family is just completely blown away. Hes been through a lot this will be over soon, and that will be a very encouraging account there. At one point, a held a gun to his head and what he thought could be his last woman on earth, right . Come it was actually a prettys crazy story. He was sort of isolated away from the rest of his platoon and a gentleman who could have been his fathers age at the time pressed a luger against his forehead and there was a moment where the two of them kind of caught eyes. He believes it was divine intervention that may be the lieutenant didnt pull the trigger because my grandfather could have essentially been his son age. It was a moment i think where he came to and realized it was something he wasnt willing to do and we are all very thing for for that. I can see why, such a remarkable man. We are looking at these great photos of him in uniform back then. He was a pusher so he was the last guy to jump out of the plane after getting everybody up on their way. Right . Yes. So his plane was actually the second plane to arrive in normandy on dday and he was the last one out of his plane. He was probably the most courageous i guess to be the last one to jump out. I dont know. He basically helped everyone else get the courage to jump. He is a remarkable man. We are grateful to him for his service to our country and grateful to you for helping him cut his hair and coming on to talk to us tonight. Lydia, thank you so much and please give him our very best. Were so glad he got to go to the 75th anniversary at normandie, we were there, too. It was a very special day. Lydia, thank you so much. Thank you for having us on, thanks. It is our pleasure. Great way to end th the story. The story continues, we will see you tomorrow night at seven. On tucker is. Tucker a good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson<\/a> tonight. The sad news is, and you know this already come more than 22 Million People<\/a> i filed for Unemployment Benefits<\/a> recently since our government began implementing mass quarantines and shutting down the economy in state after state. 43 of all americans have seen their hours cut, their pay cut or lost their jobs entirely. That means a huge chunk of the country is wondering how to pay the bills. Some have run out of money entirely and they are hungry. Lines at food banks are the longest in nearly a hundred years since the depression. 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