Paul vaughn does not fit the profile of a terrorist. Youd never guess. Hes fifty five years old. Hes a former pastor who now runs a small Internet Service business in middle tennessee. He and his wife are gentle people. Theyre faithful christians. They spend most of their time raising their eleven children. So last wednesday morning at about seven fifteen bucolic scene at the vaun household, several of paul vons children are standing in the front yard about to head to school. Suddenly, out of nowhere, their world falls down around them. A team of fbi agents armed with automatic rifles swoops in in suvs and begins pounding on the front door of the family. Home inside the house. Paul ryan is watching this and is shocked. As he said later, when i open the door and saw the guns pointed at me, i asked them what they wanted. They said they wanted me and they did. The agents led paul vaughan away inside the house. His wife had been at the back with their newest child, an 18 month year old baby ran to the front door, confused and terrified. She asked what anyone would ask, who are you . And why are you taking my husband away . We dont need to guess about the exchange because its on tape. Heres what it looked like on it. If youre not going to let me know, i want to know why you were banging on my door with a gun. Youre not going to tell me anything . I tried. No, you did it. You did not try. This is not acceptable. Can can i have your name . Youre not going to give me your name. Youre not going to give me any information. I want to know why your body armor, the watch caps automatic weapons held at the ready, taking off with her husband. Why are you taking him . Who are you . She asks. But of course they completely ignore her. No, were not going to answer. We tried when they didnt. They dont have to answer because when your husband is a domestic terrorist, the government doesnt owe you an answer to the most basic questions. So paul von, we now learn is a terrorist. But what do you may be wondering that by this point was the department of justice explained later in the statement, paul vaun opposes abortion and not just in a quiet, personal way. That would be bad enough. But paul vaughn is outspoken about his views on abortion. He Still Believes being fifty five is a free country with a bill of rights that allows you the freedom to say what you want and even have protests on behalf of your ideas. He believes that was the freedom that built this country. So year and a half ago in march of 2020 one vaun and ten volunteers from a christian Prolife Group in tennessee staged a protest at an Abortion Clinic in mount juliet. Now, we dont need to speculate about what happened next, and thats a good thing for paul von. It was broadcast live on facebook by one of the volunteers. That would be seventy three year old chester gallagher. Watch this. And hey, guys, were going to need you guys to disperse outside, okay . This is your last warning. I need everybody to step outside, go to the sidewalk. Youre more than welcome to protest, not on the sidewalk. Okay, just asking really nicely. For you guys to leave, go outside on the sidewalk. Oh, the you know, i always3 4 f states. You watch nightly the chaos in your city. Buildings burning, people being pushed in front of subway trains, people getting knocked in the face on the street for no reason. Carjackings, murders, up in every city in america. So you look at that and you think, is that really it . Thats why armed fbi agents, automatic rifles arrived at Paul Vaughans home last wednesday because of that, because more than a year ago, a group of christians, many of them elderly, saying hymns. Yeah, thats it. Thats what he did wrong. Now, we should note that we only have is Video Evidence because of the hard work of my catholic town. Hall, which broke the story. God bless without this documentary evidence that this video, you might be tempted to believe the Biden Administration when it tells you that paul vaun quote, used force and physical obstruction to injure, intimidate and interfere with employees of the Abortion Clinic. But he didnt he didnt use physical force. He sang hymns. But for doing that, joe bidens department of justice now tells us paul vaughan deserves to spend 11 years in prison, 11 years. Vons coconspirators from that day in march of 2020 one , meaning other prolife activists are also facing long prison sentences. This group would include eighty seven year old even etel. Now, that name sounds familiar to you. Its because she is something of a celebrity in christian circles. Circles, and thats because she survived a yugoslav concentration camp before escaping to this country where she spent decades advocating against abortion. She has seen firsthand what happens when government denies the essential humanity of a person. In this picture, you can see her sitting in front of an Abortion Clinic as a Police Officer towers over within seconds. Two officers are shoving this eighty seven year old into the back of a car. Now, again, contrast this with the country you watch every night on television or the one you experience. If you live in a city where people are afraid to go to the Grocery Store where wendys burned down in the name of civil rights and no one does a thing about it, watch how theyre treated. Same thing happened to fifty eight year old heather adoni back in march of 2020 one. It took a whole team of Police Officers to remove her. Really . You wonder why how dangerous she look. Then there was fifty seven year old evangelist calvin john zastrow. He was also arrested that day in march. Heres a video he shot discussing when we have National Revival this. But every Abortion Clinic to look like right here not violence to peace, but you, god , bring in the high places. Dont. So this girl show up in front of those high places, trust him. Rescue preaching, pray and see this happen to the rest. Now, you may not share his views. Maybe you do. Maybe you dont. But be as honest as you can with yourself. Does that guy look dangerous . And if so, compared to what . There are a lot of dangerous people wandering around completely unimpeded. In fact, theyre celebrated by this administration. Is that guy a dangerous person . Of course, not. Hes a christian. Maybe youre not a christian. Maybe youre prochoice. But even if you are, youre not ,if youre being completely honest, going to conclude that that guy poses a threat to you. This country, because he doesnt and neither does his daughter, whos twenty four years old, darlene zastrow. She was also apprehended at the clinic with her father. Heres her violent manifesto. I see the pictures before and i heard that it was murder before. But the connection from knowing it here to knowing it in my heart, i just praise god. He gave me the opportunity to ask you, lord , really, i wish you and so imagine sitting back at department of justice headquarters assessing that video and saying to yourself, you know what, they need an armed fbi raid, get out the body armor. Thats a terror manifesto. Apparently, they did conclude that because now joe bidens justice department, the fbi, to its eternal shame, is rounding up everyone associated with paul vons entirely nonviolent christian organizations. Take a look at the mug shots from the fbis investigation into this event in march of 2020 one. Its on your screen right now. Theyre telling the fbi is telling you bragging about it, that these people are dangerous. And , of course, you know what they know, which is in america twenty , twenty two , whether youre dangerous or not, depends almost entirely on who you voted for. There are people in this country who children. True fact. You are hearing now that they are minor attracted persons. You have people on television trying to minimize the gravity of child molestation. Why is that . Because theyre probably biden voters. Thats the assumption anyway. Meanwhile, those people in the mug shots on the screen, those are the terrorists. Keep in mind that biden voters whove actually killed people are facing less jail time than these christian protesters. In illinois, blm writer Matthew Rupert received fewer than eleven years for setting fire to a Cell Phone Store in minneapolis. Oh, really . Twenty six year old Montez Terrell lee received fewer than eleven years of prison for setting fire to the max and pawn shop in minneapolis. A fire that wound up killing a 30 year old man. He got less time. And paul vaughn is facing twenty year old sam elliott. Frye was sentenced to just over two years in federal prison for setting fire to a health food store. But it was for a good cause. It was for joe biden. So not a big deal. All of those crimes and countless others that are happening around the country at a scale we have not seen in our lifetimes, all of those crimes are being treated as less serious offenses than a man who sang hymns in an Abortion Clinic. So whats going on here . Will . A day before the fbis raid on paul von joe biden and Kamala Harris announced their new policy, which is pro lifers, because they disagree with joe biden. And upset the base, are now terrorists. Watch. We believe and i certainly believe that a woman should have the freedom to make decisions about her own body and that her government should not be making those decisions for her today. Extremist socalled leaders are attacking the freedom and liberty of millions of women. Were not going to sit by and let republicans throughout the country enact extreme policies to threaten access to basic health care. My message to folks across the country who are worried about what were seeing is first that we have you back. So you think to yourself, watch Something Like that. Well, of course, theres an election coming up in just a few weeks. And a lot of the Democratic Base believes that abortion is the key to freedom and happiness. And theyre very upset about the roe v. Wade decision. Roe v. Wade is no longer the law of the land. And so biden and harris and the rest of the leaders of that party are pandering to them. Its okay, were on your side. What you dont think is you watch Something Like that, that its a fact will mean sending guys with automatic weapons to paul vaughns house and scaring the hell out of his 11 children. You never would imagine that in real life, people who sang hymns in an Abortion Clinic would be facing 11 years in prison. So you have to ask, since the parallels are very clear , this is effectively the modern version of bull connors fire hoses and german shepherds. Has a single democrat pointed out that this is insane, that an 11 year sentence for him singing might be a little punitive. Has sandy cortez said anything . I mean, wait a second. Were prochoice. Everything but 11 years for fifty five , father of 11 has to liebe. What about George Gascon or larry krasna, the guys who think, well, we put way too many people in prison, weve got to pull back a little bit. Weve got to rehabilitate them. What about the compassion mongers at cnn or msnbc . If they said a word about this as their country becomes totalitarian, even noticed we checked. No, the only clip we could find was nancy pelosi, where she endorses violence against her political enemies. Here she is a member of the attack on one of our churches crisis pregnancy centers. Republicans are calling democrats for not saying anything. Theyre saying that her rhetoric is contributing to tax and 15 this. A woman has a right to choose to live up to her responsibility. Its up to her, her doctor , her family, her husband, her her significant other and her god. Im a very catholic person and i believe in every womans right to make her own decisions. First of all, youre not catholic. I mean, this is ridiculous. Lets stop pretending. Second, you dont believe at all in the right to choose. You applauded as nurses got fired because they dont want to take the mandatory facts because they did want to hurt their own fertility. They wanted to have children, maybe someday. And you thought that was great. So it wasnt their body, their choice. Youre a liar and a fraud. Youre not a christian. Be quiet. But whats really stunning is nobody. The people who have lectures for years, the criminal Justice System is just too mean that ms 13 are children of god. They have a problem with this. And all the people who claim to hate mass incarceration, it turns out, are strongly for the mass incarceration of anyone who disagrees with them. And theyre doing it as julie kelly has reported relentlessly, judges have sentenced dozens of january six defendants two months in prison, followed by probation. Why . Oh, because they entered public building as Police Officers stood by , lifted the ropes for them. What was that about, by the way . Dont shut up. They belong in jail. As of this week, dozens of january six defendants are still being held in pretrial detention. No one notices. Wheres the Republican Party in that nowhere. At the same time, the fbi has made zero arrests, none to protect prolife or from actual violence, not him singing, firebombing. The compass of Pregnancy Services center in buffalo was firebombed in june. No arrests have been made. In fact, the fbi seized Surveillance Footage from the facility and never gave it back. This building was up in flames this morning when police and firefighters arrived. And this is the aftermath. Broken windows, shattered glass and graffiti, which the ceo says gives him an indication as to who he thinks is behind this. Were able to serve. Twenty five. Ceo jim hardin says this didnt come as a complete shock. Recently, compass care has been receiving threats online and in person. The graffiti on the side of the building says jane was here. And hardin says he thinks the Abortion Rights Group janes revenge is behind the attack. Its a reference to janes collective, which provided underground abortions in chicago in the nineteen sixties. The group took responsibility for firebombing a prolife facility in madison, wisconsin, last month. Hardin says itll take months to repair the hundred thousand dollars worth of damage to the facility. See how this works through a group aligned with joe biden firebombs, a building fire bombs and the fbi does nothing. Instead, they send agents with automatic rifles to the home of a fifty five year old man with 11 children. Because he sung hymns in an Abortion Clinic. This is too much, actually. Theres all were always going to be disparities in justice. Theres always going to be disparities in law enforcement. You have to believe theyre unintentional. This is not unintentional. This is intentional. Its right in our face. And its completely unacceptable. Chris wray, who runs the fbi, purportedly a good guy, a decent man who cares about justice. What does he think of this . Is this all right, sending fbi agents automatic weapons to arrest a hymn singer . So we call kriss rays office today. And thats the simple question. Are you okay with us . You know, this is happening. You run the fbi. Their response, just like paul vance, we have to shut the door, not to answer your questions. These are political raids and theyre exactly what the most recent fbi whistleblower, steve friend, warned about last month. The fbi didnt respond to those warnings from one of its own agents just suspended steve friend. So the raids are continuing. People need to see this. This is going too far and its getting gary paul vaughn, who was arrested in front of his many children, joins us now. Hes joined by his attorney. Peter breens is senior counseling vp at the thomas more society. Thank you both very much. Paul , first to you. I have to wonder, what did your children think of this . Well, duggar, the you have various thoughts and processing going on. Is there dealing with this and trying to work through what happened . Fortunately, as a christian family, we do a lot of studying about historic christianity and missionaries in the past and persecution that is happening in the church. So theyre familiar with stories they know are people have been martyred throughout history. They know theyve been persecuted and picked on by bully tyrants just in other parts of history, just like they are being in america today. But youre not allowed to unleash the fbi on an entire religion. Are absolutely not. And dont think because theyve been trained, that makes it okay when when a when my kids go out to the car to go to school and the fbi pulls up armed running to the door and one of them goes to the kids and holds the kids with a long gun side of my driveway and does not let them go into the house. That is absolutely, as my wife said in the video, unacceptable. So i must be accountability. Well, its its one of the most shocking things i think ive ever seen. I have to ask you. So the fbi, the department of justice, i can barely say that phrase with a straight face is claiming that youre a violent extremist who is a physical threat to others. Do you embrace violence . Have you ever committed violence . What are they talking about . No, i have no idea. And theres absolutely no evidence of that either. The only place that has ever even seen is in the documents that they made up and used to justify in their mind and through the Justice System, the ones that signed off on this needed some kind of justification in their own minds. To to go after peaceful people that disagreed with them. Politically. Peter bergen, thank you for working on this case, for defending paul von. Do you think that this is actually going to go to trial . Well, tucker, when youve got a federal prosecutor after you ,we always have to plan for that. Paul wasnt even arrested by the local police for trespassing, but those who did who were arrested were leaning on the tradition of dr. Martin luther king. He himself was inspired by mahatma gandhi. I mean, this is the great tradition of american civil disobedience. And its not the sort of thing that you turn into a 10 year felony. Paul himself, we believe we have very strong defenses and hope to help to beat these charges at trial. And i hope you do s