Communication, would you like to be my Communications Director . To which scaramucci cap said sure, why not, and steve bannon and Reince Priebus were all voicing some questions about it, after scaramucci returned it to the white house for what would be a final meeting wasnt happy with what was going on and decided that he had better leave the Playing Field for the president to bring in his new team, so sean spicer decided that he was going to vacate the president , now to this relationship with priebus, there was some tension earlier this year, shall we say, and scaramucci looks like he was up for a big job at the white house, and he was blocked out of that, even after he had sold his hedge fund, skybridge capital, but today, scaramucci play down any rift between the two men. Listen here. There has been some speculation in the press about me and reince, we have an personal friends for about six years, we are a little bit like brothers where we roughed each other up once in a while, which is totally normal for brothers, a lot of people have brothers, so you get that. But he is a dear friend, he brought me into the political system, he brought me into the Republican National committee network, he introduced me to governor walker, he spends many times together socially. Neil while a scaramucci did say some Different Things about the present back in august of 2015, he has since become a staunch supporter of him, he is a real loyalist, and while there was a lot of tension and tumbled when it was announced that he may become the Communications Director, it looks like after he made his decision, neil, everyone decided to get on the same page because the one guy you dont want to upset was the guy who lives in the house behind me. Neil you know, its interesting, and maybe you can help me out, that politico was reporting that steve bannon and priebus were among those in that scaramucci getting that job, that it would happen over their dead bodies. So what happened there . As far as i know, neil, they are still alive and well and continue to breathe. Again, the president decided because he has had this long relationship with scaramucci, which at one point got a little bit tense, scaramucci said that the president to remind some about every 15 seconds, he wanted him there. He thinks hes a fighter, you think that he is a very bright guy who is going to carry forth the white houses message. Again, he hasnt been happy with the messaging, so he thought that scaramucci, despite the fact that he hasnt really had any communications background, is enough of a fighter, that he can do what the president wants them to do. We should point out that in the whole shakeup that Sarah Huckabee sanders became the press secretary as well, so congratulations to her. Neil they did have a briefing today, the first of since the end of june, i know that you kind of expressed frustration with that whole process, is there a sense now of going back . I think theres going to be a lot more, though we dont know for sure, scaramucci was asked about that a number of times, i think he would like to see that happen, but he said before i make any kind of commitment here, let me talk to the big guy who lives in the house back there, the guy who dont want to upset, particularly on your first day of the job. Neil allred, john roberts, thank you very much. At the white house, sean spicer is saying thats the white house could benefit from a clean slate, as someone who knows how they white house works, and whether a change like this will really change anything. The cohost of the five , forr press secretary under george w. Bush, welcome to my nerd world. Thank you, i love nerd world. What really happened it today, do you think . I think there was consternation for sean spicer, who i remember in january, when he was named white house Communications Directory and White House Press secretary, and he and i had a chance to speak before he started and the president was sworn in, i said those are two very different jobs, and they are both monstrous. But he had a plan, he thought he could be able to handle it, the thing is there is just a so much news and so much in common, and we all know what has happened to sean spicer, he had some very tough assignments, and he has taken the brunt of the humiliation that has come from saturday night live, and he really took that with a smile, he laughed about the gum thing, but it does take a toll. He and his wife rebecca are parents of 25yearold children that they adopted five years ago, and i know that that took a toll on them, there was a rumor that he was going to be fired, he stuck the root, and he took that first foreign trip, and it went very well. He says that that was okay, i dont know, maybe one day well find out. Neil he is a remarkable human being, i will never forget his kind of certainly just getting business included on all of the debates. He orchestrated and made that possible. Leaving that aside, i know that doesnt get you any metals, but your thoughts on whether any process secretary, any Communications Director can have the frankness that is needed to sit down with the president. Anthony scaramucci might be able to do that, i do want to offer my congratulations to Sarah Huckabee sanders, she is the third woman to hold a job, the second republican woman. Neil we go through a lot of press secretaries, dont we . We didnt use you. Serves four or eight years. Sean spicer was there for six months and one day, but you know, you cover this everyday. Six months and one day feels like six years. Neil when we were looking at this on fox business, we had 13 going back to the first bill clinton. So we averaged less than two. I think that two and half to three years and this time. Especially in a 24 7 news cycle, imagine nine years ago, when i was leaving the white house, i didnt even have a twitter account. Neil when you were there, if you wanted to tell president bush something, or i dont know how much input you could have, just say this is not a good idea after the inauguration, when he wanted sean spicer to talk about crowd size, and how much pushback do you think this present allows . How much pushback it did you see he allowed . Well, i dont know what happened that day when sean spicer came out, we were live on the the five will not happen, and its like what do you think, its like imagine if you drink caffeine, because he was out there punching so hard, and i think the president wanted that, he wanted them to be attacked dogs, so you have to find the right calibration, what works for him. But if the president had asked me to do that, i would have said sir, im not doing this. It is not good for me or you, the inauguration was great. Neil but you would have set a lot of people were there, of course it will not be anything like barack obamas, move on. And i think i would have been backed up by the white house Communications Director and the chief of staff, by anybody neil people say that people are afraid of him. I dont know. Neil or that they are like hostages if theyre not careful. There is something to be said about having the ability to make people want to do good work for you if you think they are going to get frustrated if you dont, there is a Good Management style and that, i dont really respond well to it, but others probably would. Neil but if you feel that you are not free to speak your mind, i could see on camera, a reluctance to do that, but i dont know, ive never been there. Neil so what do you want to see out of this arrangement . Heres the thing, i dont think that the White House Administration only has a Communications Problem, i think that they have a small Communications Problem that can be fixed on the edges, i think that they have some additional problems, which is that they have a party that has yet to come together, and i think the president as a dealmaker should put a little more muscle behind that, because if he wants not to make America Great again for four to eight years but in the long term and to remake this party, then i think he has to step back from the daytoday and lets and lets Anthony Scaramucci and Sarah Huckabee sander rain and on that while he focuses on the bigger picture. My motto since we won the election was embrace the chaos because that is what youre going to get, and it is disruptive and not how washington usually works, you are five steps ahead of everyone else and not quite sure what to do, there is followed from that. Not only do we have this change, but it comes just three days before all of the testimony next week that Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort are going to be doing, thats a lot, heres the other thing i would encourage them to do, when there is a big change like this, when we went from Scott Mcclellan to tony snow, that was a change that was not welcome, you have to reassure the younger staff that everything is going to be okay. Neil you set embrace the chaos, is part of that also putting the president to know its okay about the suites, i said, by all means, tweet. I think twitter is good for him. Neil stay on message. Stay on the things that you want to talk about, and dont get sidetracked by the things that your opponents i think one of the things that he could have been doing as his Health Care Bill is going through, i would have asked him, sir, would you be willing to smile for where these members are kind of wobbly and do you need to give them some air covered so that they feel confident that they can vote positively, the way that you want them to. Neil he is very good at it. Exactly. To have Something Like an exchange in personal, for his scaramucci to come in and say ive got an idea. Communication and press are very different, sales and marketing. They are symbiotic, but they have two different roles, white house communication should think longer term, press conferences during daytoday combat. Neil in some administrations, it kind of depends, it is very tough for a president to be told something that doesnt make him look good. Im sure it would be very tough for someone to tell john kennedy at the bay of pigs, boy this makes you look awful, you can blame the generals, kennedy chose not to do that. And his poll ratings went up when he acknowledged that it was on him. And you know, harry truman famously said to the buck stops here. Ronald reagan was very good at saying that there is a false delivery or getting something out there that was on him, just made a mistake and moved on. I remember one time in particular, the president did a press conference, and he was talking about the iran thing, and it did he think it would pass . And he said it better pass or else they are looking at world war iii. Now i know exactly what he meant, which is that if you dont try to do something now, in the future, we could have a problem with iran. But i knew that all of the headlines would say that george bush is calling for world war iii. Yeah, there is just one thing, you said world war iii, and he said no one will notice that. So three hours later, i get a phone call, you can tell when it is from the east wing, it says i just wanted to call and say you are right because he had just seen the news and it was all about world war iii, and my job was to say heres what were doing in order to address that. So youre not always going to have good news for the president , i found that what he wanted was to not be surprise, he expected that things were going to happen but stories would happen, he just wanted to know how we were trying to address it, so i always went with the no surprises rule, and i would have something positive to say, that is why i called my book and the good news is. Neil we know that he never lets on, Ronald Reagan was said to have a similar temper about certain stories, but he never let on about it. So if you want to give your enemies that ammunition . It doesnt hurt sometimes for people to know that you can get mad, right . Neil but i heard that he gets mad a lot. Maybe it is a new york a characteristic, i am from wyoming. Neil oh, that is fine, i am italian irish, so my point is not to make fun of it, just to say would a new press spokesman in any capacity, sarah or anthony working in conjunction with each other, would they be able to tell the president to pick your battles. Pick them carefully. Well, even if they do, the question is will he . Neil what you think . I doubt its because i believe that he thinks he is is best spokesperson, and he is, but if he could let that go, have the clean slate, sarah has been doing a great job, and slipped them run with it. What do they have to lose . Neil dena and the rest of the five all over this, and at 10 00 p. M. Sean hannity, he will be talking to sean spicer and Reince Priebus, he will not be talking to scaramucci, i thought such maybe he would, but not ye yet. Meanwhile, has the media now met its match . After this. Helps keep your laundry pacs safe and your child safer. Align, press and unzip. 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President , if youre listening, i personally apologize for the 50s im for saying that. But heres the wonderful thing about the news media, thats was 3 minutes on my left, he does never forgot it, youve never forgot it, but i hope that someday, mr. President , you will forget it. All right, that is the way that you hand sold Something Like that, neil the question is whether that will do him well, he was the one planting these angry seeds years ago. I noticed just the same thing. What did you think of day one of communication director scaramucci . Anthony is a brilliant guy, a great marketer, great self promoter, i thought he did pretty well up there. My issue with him is our his skill sets what is needed for this job . And in getting rid of is he what the white house needs in terms of a Communications Director . You know, a lot of this has nothing to do with the people who are in these jobs, it has to do with the president , and also, his other sort of issue is that she is an incredible marketer and self promoter, does that jive well with this job . Maybe he will do a 180, and it will, but what kind of got him into trouble with priebus, with steve bannon, all these people who objected to his employment, were all of these off the cuff remarks, when he was first running, slated to have a different position. Neil be careful with that, steve bannon i understand, what you are saying, but when you think about someone who is very good at marketing something, himself or others, but at a crucial time, when a lot of what they want to do is getting tax cuts through and all, he is actually just the person for that moment, right . The question is whether he can translate that to being frank with his boss and tell them want to focus on something and when not to. The latter is the issue here for President Trump. No one is going to tell trump want to do, okay . No one will tell him to stop tweeting, mark castle with couldnt tell him not to, his ex lawyer. His inside lemon lawyer, he could not tell him to stop talking about robert mueller, so scaramucci will not really have that kind of impact, one thing i do know about steve bannon, he is not like talking out of term every day, and he does have that ability to put his foot in his mouth. Neil so does the present. Well, do you want two of the them . Well, may be in someone is eventually going to get it to the presidency that that kind of thing is a distraction. You dont double down on bad. Neil all right, thank you very, very much. We will have a lot more after this ahh. Where are mom and dad . saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico goin up the country. Love mom and dad im takin a nap. Dude, you just woke up im goin up the country, baby dont you wanna go . Im goin up the country, baby dont you wanna go . Geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. In the oval office with him earlier today, we were talking about letting him be himself, letting him express his whole identity, i think he has some of the best political and sinks in the world and perhaps in history, when you think about i it, he started his political assent two years and two months ago, and he has done a phenomenal job for the American People. Neil so i think that is scaramucci