Small boats crisis. And that story about the surgeons is so shocking. These surgeons is so shocking. These women surgeons are being sexually assaulted in the operating theatre. Sometimes dunng operating theatre. Sometimes during surgery. How appalling is that . That . Its quite mind blowing. You its quite mind blowing. You have to stay tuned really to hear the details of all of that. And Everything Else were talking about this morning. Vaiews gbnews. Com is the email address. Touch address. Please get in touch with us. First, here is the with us. But first, here is the news with ray addison. News with ray addison. Thanks. Both good morning. 931 our top stories. The 931 our top stories. The chancellor is defending the british job market despite rising unemployment figures released today across the uk. Unemployment rose by 0. 1, reaching 4. 3 in july, while Job Vacancies fell to below a million. Jeremy hunt says that remains below many of our international peers. Meanwhile average growth in pay remained at a record high of 7. 8. Food inflation has fallen to its lowest level in more than a yean lowest level in more than a year, according to the latest figures. Kantar group says Grocery Price inflation is down for the sixth month in a row , for the sixth month in a row, reaching 12. 2. Thats compared to 17. 5 back in march. However 95 of consumers are still concerned about rising supermarket bills. Almost 1 in 3 supermarket bills. Almost 1 in 3 female surgeons say theyve been sexually assaulted at work in the last five years. Thats according to a survey by the british journal of surgery. 11 british journal of surgery. 11 instances of rape were reported by those who took part in that study. Meanwhile, 29 of women study. Meanwhile, 29 of women say theyve experienced unwanted physical advances. And wilko has physical advances. And wilko has closed 24 of its Stores Across the uk with hundreds of workers set for redundancy. The retailer is going into administration with all 400 of the discount chains shops set to close by october. Over 12,000 staff are october. Over 12,000 staff are likely to lose their jobs. You likely to lose their jobs. You can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews. Com now lets get straight back to andrew and. Bev straight back to andrew and. Bev no. No. So very good morning. Now questions have been raised over the uks china policy after a British Parliamentary researcher was arrested on suspicion of spying for beijing. Spying for beijing. But its controversial because the Commons Speaker , sir because the Commons Speaker, sir Lindsay Hoyle, has said mps must not name the alleged spy. Well, earlier here on gb news, we asked labour minister Justin Madders what he thought about our future relationship with china and how that might look. Look. This has come out in the last 48 hours. We absolutely have to robust them a robust to challenge them over that , but we challenge them over that, but we cant ignore them. We have to continue dealing with them. Theyre going to be a big part of theres no of the 21st century. Theres no doubt about that. If we want to tackle Climate Change, we want to to see economy to continue to see our economy grow. Have to deal with grow. We will have to deal with them. Mean that them. But that doesnt mean that we to accept that, that we have to accept that, that some of the things that they do are consistent with our are are consistent with our values. Values. Well, former Health Minister lord James Bethell joins us now in the studio. Good morning, in the studio. Good morning, james. Thank you for coming in. The controversy around this alleged chinese spy continues because the gentleman who was accused was on the front page of one of the newspapers yesterday, came out and defiantly said there is no truth to this. Do there is no truth to this. Do you think he should be named at this stage . Should should the politicians, should the mps be talking about who he is . Bev its a real dilemma. Were all naturally very concerned about what the accusations are, but we have to be respectful of the legal process. The Intelligence Services have been emphatic. Services have been emphatic. They do not want to have a discussion about his identity or about accusations because about the accusations because that would disrupt their investigation. So i think we investigation. So i think we have respect their intentions have to respect their intentions on i that , james, but on this. I hear that, james, but this were talking about china, which are laughing at us because they dont allow any discussion about anything if they dont like because its a police like it because its a police state. This is the mother all this is the mother of all parliaments. Has been parliaments. This story has been this been named on the this man has been named on the front the times with a front page of the times with a photograph. Theyve done it again so were all again today. So were all talking about it. You know, it is. Knows who it is. I know is. Bev knows who it is. I know it is people whove read the times know people whove times know it is people whove read the internet know it is. But mps allowed to name but mps arent allowed to name him debate it. Him or debate it. Think right well, i think youre right that laughing and what that china is laughing and what they to sow suspicion they want is to sow suspicion and disrupt action in our parliament. So although the temptation to dive in temptation is to try to dive in and discuss in and discuss this person in particular, actually the most helpful can do is to helpful thing we can do is to back off temptation, action helpful thing we can do is to back of rise temptation, action helpful thing we can do is to back of rise above ptation, action helpful thing we can do is to back of rise above itation, action helpful thing we can do is to back of rise above it whereiction and to rise above it where i think we should be looking at is at the foreign agents registration scheme, which is deliberately created in order to bnng deliberately created in order to bring transparency to the people who work within parliament. And china should be a tier two, tier one country within that scheme. One country within that scheme. How does that work . What does that mean . What that means is that if you are taking money from either Chinese State organisations or Chinese State organisations or chinese have chinese companies, you have to register contract and that register that contract and that connection. And so people can see what your connections are with a country like china. Right . Can we ask you about the jaw dropping story on the front page of times . Youre front page of the times . Youre a Health Minister. This a former Health Minister. This is on a report from the is based on a report from the Royal College of surgeons, a third of nhs surgeons third of female nhs surgeons have been sexually assaulted by a over the past five a colleague over the past five years, of them in the years, some of them in the operating theatre, some of them dunng operating theatre, some of them during operations and 11 of them report being raped. This is absolutely shattered. Absolutely shattered. It is awful and it is striking that its in the last five years. So this isnt historic. Nick complaints. This is a snapshot of what the nhs is like today. I is a snapshot of what the nhs is like today. I have is a snapshot of what the nhs is like today. I have the greatest like today. I have the greatest respect for our clinical professions, but there is a problem with the hierarchical and misogynistic nature of the culture in the nhs. I think that that was a lot of what the nurses strike was about is that a lot of them are fed up with being treated as second class citizens and have this predatory behaviour for by, by by men. And i that its often i think that its, its often very localised. There are some institutions that treat these situations very well, but some do and the profession has do not. And the profession has to have really long, hard look to have a really long, hard look at itself and address this problem. I think just just to be clear, so this was an analysis done by the university of exeter, the university of surrey, and the working party on sexual in surgery. Sexual misconduct in surgery. Its astonishing that its taken so long for this to come out in a way, this, i imagine, as you say, it might be quite recent reports, but this must have been going on for decades within its well, im afraid to say that well, no, im afraid to say that the the workplace in the the tone of the workplace in the nhs very good, nhs is often very good, frequently very, very bad indeed. And it is one of the reasons why people get burnt out and why they, they, they often say that they, they, they often say that they love the work, but they hate the workplace. And its this climate of hierarchy of male dominance. Its about power. James as well because theres a joke, isnt there, that the surgeons are playing god, that they often feel that they have this power within, this this power within, particularly within surgery. And clearly young trainee surgeons , clearly young trainee surgeons, particularly females, are becoming the victim of this. How do you stamp it out . Right. Do you stamp it out . Right. Well, i think that the problem is the nhs is a very federated organisation. There federated organisation. There are 22,000 different organisations and the professions themselves, the Royal Colleges need to address this. They need better training. Listen, weve had this problem in parliament. I mean, i have some humility here. I have seen my own colleagues in parliament treat women appallingly and we are taking steps. Its quite tough. You have to go to boring, tedious , patronising training tedious, patronising training sessions to tell you how to behave towards your colleagues. I didnt particularly enjoy it, but it was good for me. Thats the kind of stuff that surgeons need to do and there have been problems. But james, this says two thirds of women working in surgery report having been sexually a male sexually harassed by a male colleague. Sexually harassed by a male colitw01e. I know its astonishing. And then but then also when they do go to complain being told might be harmful told that it might be harmful for their the surgeons for their career the surgeons are all powerful and probably best to just sweep it under the carpet within the nhs. That issue of taking complain to a certain level and being then respected for making that complaint. Thats a problem. Complaint. Thats a problem. Even in an area that isnt related to Sexual Assault. Isnt it . It . Yes, because we have vested within the Clinical Professionals a huge amount of hierarchical power. And so the people with the greatest expertise are not always the best managers. Theyre not always the people who who are going to drive that kind of modernisation behavioural modernisation and behavioural reform within the organisation. Yes, we have to address this. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. 1 in 3 uk medical students as well intend on emigrating to practise medicine elsewhere. Thats isnt it, that thats heartening isnt it, that they do all their training here and then theyre going to live in australia . Yeah. Yeah. Listen, medical well, listen, the medical profession been quite profession has always been quite international. Do travel international. People do travel around and a lot of people come to britain for training and to improve their qualifications. A lot go overseas and the lot of brits go overseas and the idea of moving to australia to work in a hospital and spend some time on the beach is very alluring. The actual numbers that move overseas, though, is not quite what what it sounds. Dont forget the medical professions are quite well paid in this country and they do have gold plated pensions that are very, very they wouldnt agree to. Thats why theyve been on bloomin strike for months. Well, been record well, ive been on record junior doctors, nurses, theyve all been on strike. They they they feel that they are being underpaid. They they they feel that they are and g underpaid. They they they feel that they are and i underpaid. They they they feel that they are and i thinkrpaid. They they they feel that they are and i think that. They they they feel that they are and i think that the and i think that the statistics show that actually the get in the uk is the deal they get in the uk is quite a generous one. Its difficult replicate. Difficult to replicate. Say you the now, you say you say the numbers high. People numbers are not high. People going climes like the going to warmer climes like the canbbean going to warmer climes like the caribbean or australia, but shouldnt a system in shouldnt there be a system in place they have to stay place where they have to stay for least two years after for at least two years after theyve training so theyve done their training so theyve done their training so the gets some of that the taxpayer gets some of that reinvestment . Listen, its very tempting terms. There are two problems with it. One is that that is called indented servitude. We kind of got rid with slavery quite got rid of it with slavery quite a ago. The other a long time ago. And the other one doesnt help in the one is it doesnt help in the recruitment of the best people. If bring restrictions if you bring in restrictions like so we have looked at like that. So we have looked at it very, very carefully. But the practical moral point practical and from a moral point of one does feel of view, one does feel frustrated taxpayer frustrated that the taxpayer invests someones invests in someones professional and professional qualifications and then they leave the country. But then they leave the country. But the practicalities are that it doesnt work. Well, lewis also talked to you disposable vapes, you about disposable vapes, which we have discussed on this show before our audience feel really strongly about this. Some people will say that vapes have been a fantastic gateway to quitting obviously quitting smoking, but obviously thats started. Thats how they started. But they have become something thats how they started. But they have bdifferent,mething thats how they started. But they have bdifferent, whichig completely different, which is addicting. Generation of addicting. A whole generation of teenagers to nicotine and the government now proposing to government are now proposing to ban the disposable version. A ban the disposable version. A good news story that doesnt happen very often, does it . Lord bethell no, they have moved really quickly on this. Agree. I agree. I agree. Listen, vapes have been fantastic. A real fantastic. Weve got a real problem smoking. You dont problem with smoking. You dont see it in the professional classes, 13 of the country classes, but 13 of the country do still vote. Its the second biggest and it remains a biggest killer and it remains a source of great health inequality. So vaping is a huge modern benefit that is getting a lot of people off smoking. But kids vaping, thats a terrible idea. And these disposable vapes idea. And these disposable vapes are clearly targeting kids. And chris whitty said that kids shouldnt smoke vapes and i agree, thats the former chief medical officer. And of course lord bethell, we do not know and weve had the bloke from vaping bloke from the Vaping Association here admitting it on this they do know this programme. They do not know what damage the chemicals involved have on our bodies. I know. So there is, there is a, there is an un resolved question. There and it may yet show that vaping isnt good for you , but theres no evidence for you, but theres no evidence for that at the moment. I just dont think its a good idea for children to be vaping and i see teenagers in my kids own schools who are semi addicted are constantly puffing away, constantly puffing away, constantly trying to be bad. Why do they make bubble gum flavoured veggies if theyre not aimed at kids . Can i wanted to ask you another thing, and i cleared this with you before, lord bethell. Its suicide prevention. Can read very prevention. Can you read a very moving powerful piece in the moving and powerful piece in the times about times earlier this year about the of your own mother . The suicide of your own mother . Well, i thought lucy, yes. Well, i thought lucy, who spoke earlier about absolutely nail on absolutely hit the nail on the head. Yeah, that lucy head. Yeah, that was lucy beresford, the psychotherapist, was very was on breakfast. She was very good. Mother died was good. My mother died when i was ten years old. She was very lonely. My parents had been divorced because of her alcoholism. Small alcoholism. She lived in a small bedsit abandoned bedsit and had felt abandoned by the world and that loneliness really, really mounted to the point a hot bath point where she took a hot bath one night and never woke up. And as a child , that hit really, as a child, that hit me really, really hard. And the thing that really hard. And the thing that hit me hard in particular was that no one wanted to talk about it. My message would it. And i think my message would be that its very, very important , be that its very, very important, particularly with children who have hit by children who have been hit by the suicide of a parent to be more open and discuss the more open and to discuss the problems challenges. Nobody problems and challenges. Nobody at school talked to you about it. Adults didnt talk to you about it. It yes, everyone wanted it was yes, everyone wanted to brush it under. Its so uncomfortable. It uncomfortable. I understand it was the and we were, you was the 1970s and we were, you know, different world know, it was a different world then. And i understand why people didnt broach people didnt want to broach it because troubling because it was a troubling subject. Thats a mistake subject. But thats a mistake because got to allow because youve got to allow children to grieve and youve got answer questions got to answer the questions theyve needed therapy. Theyve got you needed therapy. I a amount of i have had a huge amount of therapy an adult. Therapy as an adult. Yeah, but not as a child, correct . Yeah. Yeah. And did your ever talk to and did your dad ever talk to you about it . Found it really difficult. He found it really difficult. He was personally heartbroken by the thing. Loved my the whole thing. He had loved my mother indeed. And he mother very much indeed. And he himself felt very