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GBN Martin July 4, 2024

Of this. Surely its tax cuts or die for the tories. And thats all coming up in your next hour. Thank you for joining all coming up in your next hour. Thank you forjoining me on the thank you for joining me on the show. Your company is always a pleasure. Now you might say, why do people in politics give as much interest to gaza as they do to glasgow or gateshead or gillingham or gloucester . Well, gillingham or gloucester . Well, theres a huge vote tonight on this matter. A massive protest outside and later in the show weve got an exclusive interview with a councillor from a tiny cumbrian town on the coast called hillam. Then theyve had for three Asylum Seekers dumped on their town, where theres a critical shortage of housing for locals. No gp appointments, no dentists. The nearest hospital 40 minutes away, the nearest cop shop 45 minutes away. Theyre voiceless. Theyve been trampled voiceless. Theyve been trampled down. Were going to give them a voice and try and get action thats coming up on the show straight after your latest news headunes straight after your latest News Headlines with sam francis. Headlines with sam francis. Martin, thank you very much. Good afternoon. From the gb news room. Itsjust good afternoon. From the gb news room. Its just gone 3 00 and we start with the news that weve been covering in the last couple of hours. The Commons Speaker has sparked fury this afternoon by going against convention and selecting both the government and labours amendments for a debate on the snp motion for a Gaza Ceasefire. This was the Gaza Ceasefire. This was the moment sir Lindsay Hoyle made that announcement in westminster. Order, order youll be going and not be bought. It thats the first one to leave. Then well, on whats supposed to be the snp opposition day, the speaker has defied precedent, selecting two opposition amendments. He has described the amendments. He has described the decision as a move away, though from an outdated approach. But in response, members of the snp were heard shouting shame on you, while the commons clerk, tom goldsmith, wrote that long standing Convention Rules are not being followed. That was in a letter to the speaker that has been obtained by gb news for those watching on tv, you can see here live pictures of those ongoing debates inside the ongoing debates from inside the commons. We will, of course, commons. We will, of course, keep you keep across that for you throughout of this throughout the rest of this afternoon. Understand that afternoon. We understand that labours amendment will be debated first and that will then be followed by the snps original motion , well also in original motion, well also in the commons today. Original motion, well also in the commons today. The labour the commons today. The labour leader pressed the Prime Minister on allegations that were made by the business secretary that the former post office boss had lied about a row over compensation to victims of the horizon scandal. The the horizon it scandal. The deepening round dominated Prime Ministers questions this lunchtime after Kemi Badenoch accused henry storton of spreading falsehoods and what she said was making up an astonishing series of claims. That was after he said the government had deliberately delayed compensation payments. Delayed compensation payments. Miss badenoch said mr miss badenoch also said mr stauntons claims were a blatant attempt to seek revenge after he was sacked. Sir keir starmer asked rishi sunak if he backed the business secretarys claims. The business secretarys claims. I appreciate that the business secretary has put the Prime Minister in a tricky position, but but, but will he commit to investigate this matter properly in including whether that categoric statement was correct and why, rather than taking those accusations seriously , she accused a seriously, she accused a whistleblower of lying. Whistleblower of lying. In response, rishi sunak insists he is standing by his business secretary, but he kept the focus on what he called the unprecedented steps the government is taking to support victims of the scandal. Victims of the scandal. People who were working hard, serving their communities had their lives and reputations destroyed and thats why we are working hard to ensure that they get justice and compensation. And thats why we established sir wyn williams inquiry. It is why we have already paid out over £150 million of compensation to almost 3000 victims, and its why we will introduce new legislation shortly to exonerate those, we will make sure that we do what is needed, that the truth does come to light. We right the wrongs of the past and, crucially, that victims get the justice that they deserve. Justice that they deserve. Another story making the news today downing street has said it does still have complete confidence in britains Nuclear Deterrent , despite a missile deterrent, despite a missile misfiring and crashing into the ocean from a British Nuclear submarine, hms vanguard. Its submarine, hms vanguard. Its the second time a test has failed and the government is unable to say when the last successful test took place, defence secretary grant shapps was on board when the £17 million misfire took place. The million misfire took place. The ministry of defence says it was unusual, but they insist the deterrent is still safe, secure and they say effective. The uk and they say effective. The uk has frozen the assets of six russian officials in charge of the arctic prison camp, where Opposition Leader Alexei Navalny died last week. The fresh died last week. The fresh sanctions were announced by foreign secretary lord David Cameron ahead of a g20 meeting with foreign ministers. Cameron ahead of a g20 meeting with foreign ministers. Today. With foreign ministers. Today. The sanctioned individuals will also be banned from entering the uk , and theyre the first uk, and theyre the first sanctions any country has imposed on russia since the putin critics death last friday. Lord camerons russian counterpart, sergey lavrov, is also expected to attend the g20 meeting today. Protesters here meeting today. Protesters here in london are once again gathered outside the royal courts of justice as wikileaks founder Julian Assange makes his final appeal against possible extradition to the us. The National Union of journalists is holding a free Julian Assange demonstration , and its over an demonstration, and its over an alleged conspiracy to publish leaked documents relating to the afghanistan and iraq wars. The afghanistan and iraq wars. The long running case could be assanges final chance to avoid spending the rest of his life behind bars in the us , patients behind bars in the us, patients and their families will have quick and easy access to a second medical opinion if theyre worried about a condition getting worse. Condition getting worse. Marthas rule coming into force from april means an urgent review by a different Critical Care team in hospitals can be requested if a patients condition is getting rapidly worse and the new rule follows the death of 13 year old martha mills in 2021, who developed sepsis while she was under the care of Kings College hospital in london because her symptoms were missed and those are the headunes were missed and those are the headlines to keep across all of the days stories. You can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. Or, of course, go to our website gbillionews. Com alerts. And. Thank you sam, and thank you for joining us on the Martin Daubney show. Weve got so much to get through today. A huge day aheadin to get through today. A huge day ahead in politics and outside parliament. A mob is already growing a fight my way growing at a fight my way through them in. Theres through them to get in. Theres a protest 5 00. I reckon a big protest at 5 00. I reckon its to get tasty. Its going to get really tasty. Well have latest on on well have all the latest on on the and here we have some the show and here we have some live now from live shots right now from parliament the debate is parliament because the debate is raging i should even worn raging on. I should even worn a pro palestine scarf. Theyre pro palestine scarf. Theyre beautiful now lets get through this. Got chris hope in the studio with me to go through all of this. And Commons Speaker sir lindsay selected Lindsay Hoyle has selected amendments tabled by labour and the government to the snps Gaza Ceasefire motion. Mr speaker has been accused of moving the goalposts and cries to bring back bercow. Why is it that bad . Well heard in the commons as sir Lindsay Hoyle explained his reasoning behind selecting both sets of amendments and this comes as later today, mps will be voting in the house of commons around about 7 00. We believe on holding an immediate ceasefire in gaza. Well, as i said , joined now in studio by gb said, joined now in studio by gb news Political Editor christopher hope. So, chris, christopher hope. So, chris, a dramatic day ahead in parliament. I want to ask a bafic parliament. I want to ask a basic question. I think a lot of people out there in gb news land will be asking , why do will be asking, why do politicians give so much bandwidth to gaza instead of gateshead, glasgow , gillingham gateshead, glasgow, gillingham or gloucester . Parliament sees itself as somewhere where the big issues of the globe are debated as much as uk. Added to as those in the uk. Added to that, gaza is very divisive for lots of communities is israel allowed to defend itself . But allowed to defend itself . But how far does that go . And is it . Should it be allowed to . Um, you know, level parts of gaza as, as has happened and at what point is that overstating over overplaying where it should be given what happened . So thats a debate in lots of communities around country. Added to around the country. Added to that theres differential that, theres differential views on this amongst different parties. And as a general election coming up. So put all that together. Thats why its being debated in house of being debated in the house of commons. Happened commons. Whats happened today is lindsay at the is Lindsay Hoyle is at the speaker a football match. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meanti football match. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meant to iotball match. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meant to ensure match. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meant to ensure thath. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meant to ensure that the hes meant to ensure that the laws of game followed, laws of the game are followed, or of the house of or the laws of the house of commons are followed. Um, and of course, Standing Orders and house of normal the house of commons normal when the snp a motion around snp have done a motion around gaza, theyre trying trying gaza, theyre trying to trying to support an to get mps to support an immediate ceasefire and condemn the collective punishment of palestinians. Um, only normally the government can amend that. With its view, the speaker has allowed labour to add its own amendment, that gives sir amendment, and that gives sir keir a get out Keir Starmers mps a get out clause because their motion is slightly different. Theyre saying that assault on rafah saying that the assault on rafah must not take place and theyre demanding an immediate humanitarian ceasefire for a bit different the snp. It allows different to the snp. It allows labour to go somewhere to labour mps to go somewhere to support calls for this humanitarian ceasefire and not have to back the snp and the resign from the frontbench. So its politics in play and thats why tories are saying bring why the tories are saying bring back because bercow, john back bercow because bercow, john bercow had here was bercow of course, had here was similarly of being similarly accused of being biased. Uh, similarly accused of being biased. Uh, he similarly accused of being biased. Uh, he would that biased. Uh, he would deny that dunng biased. Uh, he would deny that during the, the Brexit Debates, all those years ago. I half joked chris, if and i half joked chris, if its bring back bercow, we now weve got to be in a bit of a state. But all of this is performative. These votes wont have any actual legislate impact. Nothing will happen. It wont change netanyahus mind. Wont change netanyahus mind. It wont have impact even on it wont have any impact even on british policy. Is it just british policy. So is it just performative , virtue signalling perform ative, virtue signalling posturing . Its performative, virtue signalling posturing . Its performance posturing . Well its performance in sense. In a sense. It will have bearing yes. It will have no bearing on government policy towards on uk government policy towards supporting israel and backing this. This idea of an immediate humanitarian pause backing humanitarian pause and backing israels right to self defence. That change. Um whats that wont change. Um whats happening here is the snp are trying to force labour mp to go further than their Party Leadership on a ceasefire , and leadership on a ceasefire, and the tories will have that to happen. The tories will have that to happen. And the speaker, lindsay happen. And the speaker, Lindsay Hoyle, a former labour mp now independent, has given them a get out clause and thats why theyre get out clause and thats why the bercow okay, well bercow okay, well stick around, because, around, chris, because, um, im now former now going through former conservative ann conservative minister Ann Widdecombe , who joins me the widdecombe, who joins me on the show with as welcome as ever to the show an theyre saying bring back bercow you gods is it that bad . Bad . Uh, well i dont think they meant it, but, uh, what they were saying was, yes, you know, this is what he used to do. He used to break with precedent and say, well, you know, precedents are to be broken. Are there to be broken. Know, actually and, you know, but i actually i understand this entirely. And, you know, but i actually i understand this entirely. This is a Major International issue. Its not just a british issue. Its not just a british issue. Its a Major International issue. The British Parliament is debating it. I think it would be very odd indeed if the speaker did not allow both the government and the official opposition. I know that the snp opposition. I know that the snp would love to be the official opposition, but it aint why the speaker should allow the government and the official opposition to put down amendments in these circumstances. I do understand it, and whatever uproar it might cause, i think , you know, this cause, i think, you know, this is a precedent that is worth having and when it comes down to it , these arent binding votes. It, these arent binding votes. They have no teeth or impact. They have no teeth or impact. Netanyahu wont listen to this in the same way he didnt listen to the red cross or the united nafions to the red cross or the United Nations or south africa or anybody so domestically, anybody else. So domestically, politically. And whats it about politically. And whats it about as well as showing out our beef on the world stage . Is it a is it just jostling for position ahead of a general election . Is it about trying to damage the government . Is it about the government . Is it about the muslim vote help me out. Its about the general election. Its about, uh, trying to appeal for votes. Its about saying, you know , look, we are saying, you know, look, we are very humane people and we dont agree with whats going on. It will have no impact at all on israel. No impact at all. Israel. No, no impact at all. Uh, it will have no impact at all on the way that any other International Body deals with this. It is posturing, uh, International Body deals with this. It is posturing , uh, with this. It is posturing, uh, with an election coming up this year, thats what it is. Its posturing , its positioning. It posturing, its positioning. It is not actually seeking to have any impact as it knows it cant. Any impact as it knows it cant. Okay. And im also joined in the studio by chris hope. Hed the studio by chris hope. Hed like to fire a question at you, please, if he can. And chris, hope, just to ask you a quick question, do you think Lindsay Hoyle damaged think Lindsay Hoyle has damaged his in parliament by his reputation in parliament by giving labour this get out clause by breaking with precedent and allowing a Second Amendment . Thats what is being said in the commons now. Is he trying to make sure that he can be supported by labour to be elected speaker after the next election . Possibly. Election . Possibly. I dont believe that that is necessarily the case. I mean, whenever Something Like this happens, conspiracy theories abound and everybody is looking for as i say, if for reasons. But as i say, if i were sitting there in his chair now as speaker and i had a major, uh, International Issue about which the

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