Cheers very much for your company. Now folks, if you just want a night of bland and preachy group, speak with everyone saying the same thing, the lib dem conference has started. Be the other started. Itll be on the other side. You like your side. But if you like your debate little bit more spicy, debate a little bit more spicy, youve exactly the right youve come to exactly the right place. Yes, im here with emily, place. Yes, im here with emily, as usual , but place. Yes, im here with emily, as usual, but ill be as away and well certainly miss his thoughtful well judged thoughtful and well judged contributions. Benjamin is also off and well certainly miss. Well, ill let you know. When well, ill let you know. When i think of something. Were joined tonight by our fearless roving reporter here at gb news. Its ben leo, the brilliant podcaster and broadcaster lewis oakley, and broadcaster lewis oakley, and the host of britains best drive time news show, our very own Patrick Christys. 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In london today, calling on the government to u turn on brexit and return to the bloc. Clusters and return to the bloc. Clusters of metropolitan Police Officers monitored the demonstration as protesters in blue and yellow handed out flyers. The uk voted to leave the European Union in a referendum in 2016 called by the then Prime Minister david cameron. And finally, nearly a cameron. And finally, nearly a third of patients have suffered long term organ damage as a result of covid 19. Thats according to findings of a new study. It says abnormalities in the lungs were almost 14 times higher in those whod had the virus. Abnormal findings involving the brain and kidneys with 3 in 2 times higher, respectively. And the extent of the damage was often influenced by the severity of their infection, their age and other diseases in the body. Youre diseases in the body. Youre with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio, and on your Smart Speaker by simply saying play gb news. Now its back to the. Saturday five. Its back to the. Saturday five. Thanks , tatiana. It is thanks, tatiana. It is saturday night and youre with the saturday five. Im emily carver and we are about to set the world to rights in just under an hour. So lets crack on with tonights first debate. Yep were starting tonight with ben leo and ben. Leo has a well , hes had a pretty pleasant saturday afternoon. It might be saturday afternoon. It might be one youre envious hes had one youre envious of. Hes had many admirers join him at the rejoin march in london. Lets have a look at how he got on. I would think brexit is idiots. Deluded. Deluded. Deluded. What else do you miss about the eu . What else do you miss about the eu. 7 um what else do you miss about the eu . Um oh. Are you saying that europe needs a bath . No with bath for europe. Oh , no. Oh no. Oh, no. Oh no. I like the eu and i love living here. But i also love living in spain. You cant just say 60 of brits want to rejoin. Wheres that from . No newspaper. Who . The guardian. Everything in the eu is elected. No one in this country voted for guy verhofstadt. What do you miss i miss the miss about the eu . I miss the Economic Prosperity that we had i the other countries seemed to have recovered a lot better from it have. It than we have. Germany is in recession, though, were not. So how is though, and were not. So how is that true . Oh thats like a fun day out for ben. So , ben, tell us more. So, ben, tell us more. Yeah. Oh, dear. I mean, that yeah. Oh, dear. I mean, that says it all really. Look in a week where keir starmer has been cosy Emmanuel Macron in cosy up to Emmanuel Macron in france in a shady deal to betray 17. 4 million brexit voters, a meeting , by the way, brokered by meeting, by the way, brokered by the bad smell that wont go away. Tony blair. These losers in london today saw fit to complain about a vote that took place seven years ago. All they place seven years ago. All they could complain about is airport cuz i havent seen any of those by the way. I think theyre a myth and bizarrely how their tea cloths from germany werent getting delivered because of random custom charges. Now look, my is youve lost the vote my point is youve lost the vote. Not back into the. Were not going back into the eu. Stand by. Democracy and get on board with brexit, because at the moment brexit has not been allowed started. Its allowed to get started. Its been blocked at every turn by the service politicians, the Civil Service politicians, the Civil Service politicians, the and cry baby the courts and cry baby losers like so get on board with like these. So get on board with brexit. Ramonas its not changing. Booming changing. Get britain booming again. Again. I mean ben looking at the fact that in the news there, tatiana said they sent the metropolitan police out. What the hell are they going to do, fight other with hummus . Fight each other with hummus . I mean, its just obscene. Throw muesli at each and lot muesli at each other and a lot of quite old as of them looked quite old as well. Ive got absolutely well. Now ive got absolutely nothing against people, nothing against elderly people, but the whole narrative but wasnt the whole narrative that we were stealing young peoples futures by voting for brexit . Now, a lot of those, they looked like they were quite old, possibly had homes in spain for many years. It felt like the worlds biggest nursing home right down there today. Lots of pale, lots of stale. The same thing they accused brexiteers of being by the way. And i think patrick you had a well exactly that and this is again as you is the thing again as you rightly said, theyre absolutely nothing old people whatsoever. N whatsoever. I think weve far from it. I think weve you know, those our greatest you know, those are our greatest generation people frankly, generation that people frankly, our learning a our age should be learning a heck a from. But it is heck of a lot from. But it is the hypocrisy of what the brexiteers were accused of being old, you know, too old, pale or, you know, too white, etcetera. I dont if white, etcetera. I dont know if we might a picture at we might have a picture at some point well of this bus that point as well of this bus that was its way to. Yeah, there was on its way to. Yeah, there we look at that. Okay we go. Look at that. Right. Okay so you imagine if that so look, can you imagine if that was was a bus full of was if that was a bus full of brexiteers . So they like having sex with flags. That was one of the conversations, wasnt it . Well of flags well theres a lot of flags there them. They seem to be there for them. They seem to be proudly wearing to their proudly wearing close to their body, quite i see any body, quite old. I cant see any racial there other racial distinctions there other than being white. If that a than being white. If that was a bus of brexiteers, bus full of brexiteers, remainers stuck remainers would be getting stuck right they . Right in, wouldnt they . Jon snow jon snow said that brexit demonstration, a pro brexit demonstration, a pro brexit demonstration, a pro brexit demonstration, was too white. Think white. I mean, do you not think that demonstration. That that that demonstration. Lewis, wide . Lewis, is too wide . Do know what i think . I do you know what i think . I think none of this is helpful. I mean, ben, in your monologue, youre saying need to come youre saying we need to come together get behind it. Together and get behind it. Meanwhile them meanwhile youre calling them losers, unwashed. On board meanwhile youre calling them losetheyre ashed. On board meanwhile youre calling them losetheyre ashe no ones allowed it to start. No ones allowed it to start. Do you know what i think its quite cute that they all went down there in their, you know, their i mean, theyre their flags. I mean, theyre clearly deluded. They think something is going to deluded thats and thats going to help. And no, i dont mean on, guys, why dont mean come on, guys, why dont mean come on, guys, why dont agree with us . Dont dont you agree with us . I dont mean to leave it in a nasty way, but just because i do not think we are going rejoin the we are going to rejoin the european its just not European Union, its just not going happen. But i think going to happen. But i think its quite sweet they its quite sweet that they had a little day london. You little day out in london. You know, being very patronising know, im being very patronising here, why they are very here, but why not . They are very patronising brexiteers, but patronising to brexiteers, but a day off for everyone else. Hang on, to come in here on, im going to come in here and rain a little bit on your parade because if you parade please, because if you look the polling and look at the latest polling and ive to here hand, only ive got it to here hand, only 9 think brexit has 9 of people think brexit has been success. Its hardly been a success. So its hardly surprising. Polls. Yes, surprising. Polls. Well, yes, a poll, okay. Poll, but okay. That the same polls that is that the same polls that says in india is that the says in india later, is that the same poll that said remain would win by and trump would win by 60 and that trump would lose to Hillary Clinton . But what im saying is now i always take polling with a pinch of everyone should, always take polling with a pinch of that everyone should, always take polling with a pinch of that is everyone should, always take polling with a pinch of that is an aryone should, always take polling with a pinch of that is an indicatorould, always take polling with a pinch of that is an indicator to. D, but that is an indicator to suggest people might suggest why some people might feel have chance. Feel like they have a chance. Theyre fed some fake theyre being fed some fake some fake doses of optimism from scammy pollsters. Mean, even guy in the i mean, even that guy in the vet me, 60 people vet said to me, 60 of people now want to rejoin the eu. He now want to rejoin the eu. He said it was a yougov poll. I held him up on it. It turned out held him up on it. It turned out he was nonsense. But why he was talking nonsense. But why are fighting these remainers . Are we fighting these remainers . Tell you well, because ill tell you that youve just. Just led me nicely youve just led me nicely onto what to say, which onto what i wanted to say, which is i actually dont agree is this i actually dont agree with emily. I think brexit is with emily. I do think brexit is in and, know, im in peril. And, you know, im someone thats talked about brexit peril for some brexit being in peril for some time, but this time really time, but this time i really think and in think sir keir starmer and in with blair behind him as you just said, the turd that wont flush is all pushing for us to have associate membership of the eu thats taken us back in. That is a betrayal of our vote and i think thats never been more of a fearful prospect. Ill just quickly point out on this. I actually think that the more keir starmer opens his mouth , the more unpopular his mouth, the more unpopular his policies made, which makes policies are made, which makes a Hung Parliament more likely, which lib dems more which makes a lib dems more likely be the powerbrokers likely to be the powerbrokers which a second referendum which makes a second referendum or rejoining the even more or rejoining the eu. Even more likely. Yes, i agree with louis. I actually dont want that. I think we do need to get on think that we do need to get on board businesses board because Small Businesses are at the are really hurting at the moment. We need to really figure out to through that red out how to get through that red tape. Still paying eu tape. Were still paying the eu like billions pounds a year like billions of pounds a year as its not been as well. Its not been a success. But i do think going backis success. But i do think going back is not going to be its not going to be any helpful. Going to be any more helpful. Help, does it, it doesnt help, does it, when the government when you know, the government tries of a tiny bit tries to get rid of a tiny bit of eu red tape around housing, around this nutrient neutral city and, know, its city rules. And, you know, its everyone is, know, throwing everyone is, you know, throwing their pram because their toys out the pram because its most awful thing its the most awful thing theyve ever i mean, its theyve ever heard. I mean, its very difficult for us to anything. Way, just just on by the way, just just on starmer, cruising to an starmer, he was cruising to an election the tories are election victory. The tories are hapless and the moment he should have done joe biden hidden have done a joe biden and hidden in the moment he in his basement, the moment he opens mouth, he has about opens his mouth, he has about 3 or consecutive gaffes on or 4 consecutive gaffes on migration. Bills migration. Eu returns bills to cosy macron in france cosy up to macron in france exchanging gifts. Should have exchanging gifts. He should have just mouth shut, but he just kept his mouth shut, but he could have scuppered it. Now, in just kept his mouth shut, but he cou opinion,;cuppered it. Now, in just kept his mouth shut, but he cou opinion, you pered it. Now, in just kept his mouth shut, but he cou opinion, you mightt. Now, in just kept his mouth shut, but he cou opinion, you might below, in just kept his mouth shut, but he cou opinion, you might be right. | my opinion, you might be right. These people might actually, these people might not be deluded. We may not actually be deluded. We may well back in the european well end up back in the European Union. Know you union. Let us know what you think home. But anyway, its think at home. But anyway, its high we debated next high time we debated our next topic. And around six topic. And after around six months air, the has been months on air, the show has been we breaking fresh new ground we are breaking fresh new ground on and bravely on the saturday five and bravely venturing waters. Venturing into uncharted waters. Some than darren is some on other than darren is going talk about migration going to talk about migration tonight and its Patrick Christys to kick christys and hes about to kick off. It away. Off. Take it away. We need have forced we need to have forced mandatory verification mandatory age verification checks anybody coming across checks for anybody coming across the channel claiming to be a child. Office figures child. The Home Office Figures show that between 2016 and june 2023, 449 of people who claim to be a child who had that case disputed turned out shock, horror to be adults. Yes, thats right. So now i think our starting point should be we just dont believe you. And the dont believe you. And the indicators are there, arent they . |f indicators are there, arent they . If youve broken into britain and ditched your documents en route that to me is a pretty strong indication that you are willing to lie about who you are willing to lie about who you are, where youre from and how old are. But the latest how old you are. But the latest from the human rights brigade is this possibly give this we couldnt possibly give wrist dental checks wrist x rays or dental checks for people because children will flee in fear of a scientific procedure. Lie. Why would you procedure. Lie. Why would you run away from something if you know you are a child . And you know you are a child . And you know what . If they came off the boats at dover, tripped over and broke their wrist or bang their tooth, theyd be straight down the begging for the local a e begging for a