Transcripts For KCRG New Hampshire The Democrats Debate 2015

Transcripts For KCRG New Hampshire The Democrats Debate 20151220

Were going to dig into that and all the big issues tonight with our whole Political Team right here. And this is the last best chance this year for Bernie Sanders and Martin Omalley to shake up a race that Hillary Clinton is dominating right now. Our latest abc News Washington post poll shows her with a commanding 31point lead over sanders. Omalley far behind. But that is only part of the story. And here with our chief White House Correspondent jon karl. And jon, those are the National Numbers. Here in New Hampshire its a real race. You could argue here in New Hampshire its Bernie Sanders thats the frontrunner. There was a poll out just last week by cnn that had him with a tenpoint lead. Hillary clintons got all the big endorsements, or almost all of them in this state from the governor on down. But Bernie Sanders has this fervent support among Young Democratic voters in this state. A 56point lead over Hillary Clinton among voters under age 35. And one point on that National Number that you mentioned, Hillary Clinton with a 31point lead nationally. Eight years ago today a poll 29point lead over barack obama. And we know that didnt we know how it ended up. Not the way she wanted it. Matthew dowd as well, our chief political analyst. You have worked for both parties, chief adviser to george w. Bush as well as chief pollster. And what Bernie Sanders is doing this year is tapping into something weve seen on both sides, tapping into real anger and anxiety in the country. Oh, absolutely. We talk a lot about what happened on the other side with donald trump. But weve i think underestimated whats gone on with Bernie Sanders in the course of this. Hes drawing nearly as big crowds as anybody in this race. There. He is antiestablishment, and what hes doing is what weve seen surface on the gop side of this race. Underestimated. I think Bernie Sanders has more of a shot than probably 10 or 12 of the gop candidates of winning a primary or a caucus. That is a pretty big field over there. 24 hours. Covering the Clinton Campaign. Shes in the press Filing Center whats shapd a staffer for the Bernie Sanders campaign has been fired for looking at the voter files of Hillary Clinton. It appears this issue is getting resolved right now, but it did reveal some real fury beneath the suvs of these campaigns. Fury is right. Two of the three candidates on this stage tonight are there after 40 ours or so of hurling accusations of theft and sabotage at each other. Sources are telling us that sanders will express regret for what happened in this data breach but that he is prepared to fire back at the Democratic Party if he has to for what he is considering to be unfair treatment. This is what happened. The sanders team tapped into clintons private voter database. This was a computer glitch that allowed this to happen earlier this week. This database is controlled by the Democratic National committee. It is the lifeblood of any campaign. It has valuable information about voters, how they vote, and the clinton team is calling this downright theft, egregious behavior. The Sanders Campaign is walking onto this stage tonight with a lawsuit pending against the Democratic National committee accusing it of being in cahoots with the Clinton Campaign after its access to that database was cut off earlier this week. The clintons say that the Sanders Campaign promised to run a different kind of campaign, but this has all the appearance of not just politics as usual, george, but they say dirty politics. Im here with a member of the Democratic National committee, donna brazile, also our consultant as well. And right now the dnc is allowing sanders to keep his voter files while the investigation continues. What i wanted to ask you about is the Clinton Campaign. She had kind of a rocky summer, a rocky launch, found her footing during the fall, and throughout this campaign shes shown shes determined to learn the lessons of eight years ago when she lost to barack obama. You know, george, Hillary Clinton has not just learned the lessons but i think she has been tested in ways that no one expected her to be tested. And shes come out of these tests as a stronger candidate, a understands the mistakes that she made eight years ago but a candidate determined to reach out to voters in ways that they get to know her personally so that she can build trust with them and she can get them to go out and caucus and support her. I think shes a stronger candidate. And the republicans will be surprised that hillary will come ouou of this Democratic Campaign when its over. Because we have a long way before its over. She will come out battle tested. Cokie roberts here as well. And talking about surprises, Bernie Sanders, you grew up in washington, you covered capitol hill for years. Hes been on capitol hill now for 25 years. The anniversary this fall. I dont think you could find a person there who would believe have predicted this . Predicted that hed be such a force on the campaign trail. Right. Not a one. He came in 1990 as a democratic socialist. Hes suing the Democratic Party. He just became a democrat this year. And he is the longestserving independent in congress. And he immediately set teeth on edge because he took on both and then when he went to the senatetevery similar performance including right after the republicans had retaken the house in 2010, giving this 8 1 2hour speech railing against a tax deal that had been worked out with Vice President leadership. So hes always been sort of putting it to the leadership in a way that people would not have no. But thats lit a real fire underneath the young voters especially, jon karl. And that was supposed to be who Martin Omalley was going to hes of a different generation in this race. No doubt. Martin omalley positioning himself as the true liberal in the race, the person that was there first on issues like gay marriage and immigration and gun control. But he has simply not caught fire. And ill tell you, you go to a Bernie Sanders rally, especially one anywhere near a college campus, and the fervent level of support is evocative of some of what we saw of barack obama in 2007. I want to check in with our silver, the founder of 538. Com and the headquarters of 538. Com there in new york. Were here in New Hampshire tonight, nate, but both campaigns, all three campaigns going to have a real eye tonight on that first caucus state of iowa. Yeah, i think in some ways iowa will set Everything Else up. Its the first state to vote. Usually you win iowa you get about a sevenpoin bounce. Right now when you have a tie in the New Hampshire polls that would tip New Hampshire to whoever won in the hawkeye much. Were going to take a quick break. Coming up on 20 minutes before the debate. Well be right back with a view from the republican field. If you have moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis like me, and youre talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic. This is humira. This is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. Doctors have been prescribing humira for ten years. Humira works for many adults. It targets and helps to block a specific s srce of inflammation that contributut to ra symptoms. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened,d, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment, get tested for tb. 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Youve been covering the republican field. You spent a lot of time with frontrunner donald trump. He goes a lot further than anyone else. He talks about Hillary Clinton getting indicted over her death of hundreds of thousands of people. But we just saw right there the entire republican field trying to tie Hillary Clinton to b back obama, make her tenure as secretary of state a top issue. Thats right, george, and it has gotten hotter lately. Donald trump is the candidate who has hit Hillary Clinton the hardest. Hes also the only one who has hosted her at a wedding. His attacks on her mostly center around her time as secretary of state, but hes even mocked her pantsuits recently. Trumps criticicm on her Foreign Policy g gs some of the biggest applause at his rallies, and its that Foreign Policy record where republicans feel she may be the most vulnerable. Besides trump in recent conversations with the cruz and rubio campaigns and others the consensus in the Republican Party right now as one Senior Adviser put it is the world is a much more unstable place because of clinton and president obama. There are three democrats in this race, butut make no mistake, the republicans are preparing, theyre gunning to take on clinton. They feel the Democratic Party has always tried to campaign as Hillary Clinton is a name of the past. If she is the nominee, republicans will also hammer her over her trustworthiness, citing recent polls like our abc News Washington p pt poll that ows she has a truru issue with some voters. George . Today marco rubio, the first republican candidate to try to make hay out of this data breach issue. Yeah, thats right. He actually put out a release just before wee came ononhe air. It showed a picture of Hillary Clinton and said under fbi investigation, then a picture of Bernie Sanders and it cited the data breach as well. Its something the republicans are definitely going to home in on and t t to attack them over that. Or at least get a laugh out of it. Joined by ana navarro our consultant. Youre a supporter of jeb bush. A year ago he came into this race vowing to follow a strtregy that could win a general election, stay in the middle. But it seems like this race has been dominated by the harder line in the party, especially on the issue of immigration. I think you have seen a wide variety of opinions. Debate, you see a spectrum of opinions. I was looking at this debate stage today. I cant believe theres only three podiums there. As a republican this is such a new sight for me. I think that the immigration thing is the immigration issue is getting incredibly complicated in the Republican Party. We saw a lot of crossfire between ted cruz and marco rubio during the debate. Immigration was supposed to be a problem for marco rubio. It turns out its also a problem, a big one, for ted cruz. Because at times he has argued for it, at times he has argued against it. D the truth is he did offer amendments to the 2013 immigration law, the gang of eight law, arguing it would make it stronger and better. Now he says actually i was trying to kill it. Well, then he was either being untruthful then or is being untruthful now. Democrats want to pick up those latino votes,s,et above 70 . But let me go to matthew dowd here. And ana sort of hit on this. Have switched places. In all the past elections in our lifetime the republicans picked the person next in lili. Democrats have more of a freeforall. This time its reversed. It used to always be republicans fall in line and democrats fall in love. And now republicans are looking to fall in love and democrats basically have fallen in line. We have a debate. Andd Bernie Sanders still has some oomph in this race. I think he could still win here in New Hampshire. But theyve basically fall nen line. But the problem the republicans have is that the big force thats arrived on the scene, the meteor thats hit the planet is donald trump and disrupted anything they thought was a Planning Party in the course of this. Donald trump leads this race. Theres much fear on the republican side that if hes the nominee thth hillala clinton wins in a walk. But that fact alone has completely disrupted whats going on on the republican side. And its also backwards in the sense were used to the republican being the old white man party. And what we see is were going to see three people on that stage who are veteran politicians. On the republican side youve got a bunch of outsiders. Youve got hispanics. The diversity you that see on that stage versus what youre seeing on this stage is frankly a new thing for its really the same old policies and rhetoric that in the past has animated republblans and the base o othe Republican Party Donald Trumps the same old . Donald trump is in a category i dont even think remember, he used to be a democrat. Hillary clinton if she gets the nomination wants to run against donald trump. Shes made no secret of that. Her team started to talk up ted cruz as well. The candidate they are more afraid of, marco rubio. Its amazinin they spenen a year, more than a year preparing to run against jeb bush. And now they are they would love to run against donald trump. She beats him in every headtohead matchup youve seen. And by bigger margins than anybody on this stage. But they most fear a marco rubiojohn kasich ticket. Youve got florida. Youve got ohio. Youve got young appeal. Youve got an hispanic. And they feel that that could be a tougug ticket. But right now marar rubio is a depending on the state. Debate ten minutes away. Well be right back. Song thats life song thats life song thats life song thats lifefe thats life. You diet. You exercise. And if you still need help lowering your blood sugar. This is jardiance. 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