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Peo says the u.s. Will continue to take such steps to put more pressure on the Iranian government and to show support for the protesters Michele Kelemen n.p.r. News the State Department Public health officials have more evidence that the lung injuries among people who've are linked to an additive found in grey market products Here's N.P.R.'s Richard Harris the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention previously reported that they had found a substance called vitamin e. Acetate in lung fluid of people who had fallen ill after of aping this material is apparently used to dilute vaporing fluids that contain t.h.c. a Marijuana extract Now the Minnesota Department of Health reports that they found vitamin e. Acetate in many samples of 18 products gathered this year but they didn't find the substance in a small number of samples gathered in 2018 that is before the long injury outbreak investigators say it's still possible other toxic materials may be contributing to the outbreak which has sickened more than 2000 people and killed about 50 Richard Harris n.p.r. News from Washington this is n.p.r. . There's been a surge of violence in a part of Democratic Republic of Congo at the center of the country's ongoing Ebola outbreak now the World Health Organization is pulling more than a 3rd of its Ebola response workers out of the area N.P.R.'s read Eisenman reports health officials have been getting ever closer to ending the 60 month Ebola outbreak they're down to just 7 new Ebola infections a week but those cases have been concentrated in an area near the city of Beni where a rebel group has repeatedly attacked civilians and many in the population are outraged that the government and United Nations peacekeepers have failed to protect them in recent days there's been violent protests at the mayor's office and u.n. Facilities given security world health officials are relocating to go more than 200 miles south 49 Ebola responders they say can do their work remotely for now 71 Ebola responders have been left in place but officials say their work has been seriously disrupted narrate Eisenman n.p.r. News the Iraqi capital is reeling from at least 3 explosions that have killed at least 5 people and wounded more than a dozen others local authorities are still trying to determine who is behind this attack however ISIS fighters have been associated with similar attacks in Iraq in recent months Iraqi officials say the latest explosions were the 1st apparent coordinated attack since anti-government protests began nearly 2 months ago u.s. Stocks are trading higher this hour with the Dow up $34.00 points at $20100.00 this is n.p.r. News support for n.p.r. Comes from Capital One offering this spark cash card for businesses committed to helping business owners turn purchases into meaningful investments that can help drive business forward Capital One what's in your wallet more and Capital One dot com and Americans for the Arts. This is something that we come to expect and al this time of year is fire you've been cooler and rain comes and. We. Talk a lot about ready set go and evacuations. I like to emphasize more of the lady in the Gulf and not as much the said if you feel threatened you see smoke you you you see fire. You don't need to be told to go you can go on your own Santa Barbara County fire chief Mark Hartwig this morning thousands of people have been ordered to evacuate as they cave fire spreads the raging fires in California are the norm these days as they are a world away in Australia but that country has developed a warning system one we might want to emulate here and Diana Lehner joins me now to talk about what lessons California can learn from Australia she wrote about this for The Washington Post welcome sight thanks Well it is spring in Australia right now and fire season is already underway understand what is the situation like in Australia the fire situation well they've had a repeat round. Fire whether that is thriving fires in New South Wales especially multiple fires sent. Around about birth and it's just there the country is in Toronto and there right now. The fear is that heat waves followed by right when wind event. That are driving the fires and it sounds very very familiar. Yes it's very similar to what we experience in California during our fire season. So they have a similar set of environmental circumstances but they reacted to that differently than we have talked about the warning system how does it work. Pretty advance warning system. And the key difference is that each state has a central hub where each fire is just where where it's occurring you can click on that fire. Where it is where it's moving what community is there in its path and what we should really need to take to get out of harm's way. They have 3 levels of warning. One is the lowest level it's called a. Community. About to fire. The next level up it's called Watch act and then. Prepare to leave or they should leave and then the highest level warning is called urgency warning and we've seen these all over social media following. The instructions for those to leave immediately or they might even say it's too late to leave. Instructions for sheltering in place. Wow And do you have to have an Internet connection you have to be on line to get these warnings but I believe they are disseminated through multiple platforms wireless. Internet so. I guess the key thing is that they're accessible in the central hub where California it seems like it's difficult to access information about the location. Where it's. Correct to. Right and we've heard all sorts of anecdotal stories from residents who were forced to flee in the middle of the night with relatively little warning or no warning at all. Here. In California you're relying on the fact that you're going to get a warning and if you don't get a warning you have to be savvy about what social media accounts to follow to know where the fire might be and where it's spreading right because everyone is what local law it's like every single emergency service has printed It's more information about where the fire spreading is and normally provided online there really is a satellite location. Where it's an Australia that that information is readily available to the public why don't we have that here. That's a good question and I think it's something we need to think about. And I think the public needs to be able to access that information in the heat of a moment when you're not as we've seen with the camp fire and the types fire you're not guaranteed to get. An evacuation order or a warning during the situation so knowing where to go for that information and having it there seems important right in this policy was born out of a big tragedy right the so-called Black Saturday fires about 10 years ago yet. 72973 people were killed in. A series of controllable fires that were just more ferocious kind of fire that the country really hadn't seen before and it was something that they were used to dealing with their politics up to that point. Had been more or less signifiers and they were working but this this here is the fire particularly the deaths that occurred. That brought about. This that are still being implemented many of them but they're still working and. The number one recommendation was focus or targeted or direct. And how that saved lives do fire officials point to that as something that has worked. Some of the disaster experts that I spoke to in Australia do you believe it is saving lives in this latest round of fires. I'm not expert I talked to in the us I think that that can really only be judged if you compare specific fires like compare the Black Saturday fire with what their experience the . Close to community how much time did people have to get out to really assess whether this system is working. Right and so our fire officials experts here in California and in the rest of the United States studying that and maybe thinking of adopting Australia's system. You know of any work that's happening right now I know there is a bill that just passed just signed into law by Governor. To create a more centralized hub for telephone for wild fire weather and fire information I don't know the details. Of what exactly that's going to take. But it does seem like there's a. System. Just. Maybe something like a centralized earthquake warning system well. Yeah thank you so much for joining us . Thank you very much. Coming up Democratic presidential candidate. About her political career. Sponsors include. Presenting the report based on actual events. $911.00 tactics and a government cover up. Get informed and. 1900. 3 right here. This is press play I'm Madeleine Brand Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbert isn't getting much if any love from members of her own party it's unfortunate that we have someone on the stage who is attempting to be the Democratic nominee for president of United States who during the Obama administration spent 4 years full time on Fox News criticizing President Obama that's already been a soldier that's why it's a full time. Criticizing people on this stage affiliated with the Democratic Party when Donald Trump was elected not even sworn in but it up to Steve Bannon to get a meeting with Donald Trump in the Trump Tower fails to call a war criminal by what he is as a war criminal and then spends full time during the course of this campaign again criticizing the Democratic Party come on Harrison Gavron at the last debate jabbered has even been accused of being a Russian asset by Hillary Clinton all of this has raised plenty of eyebrows leading to headlines in The New York Times Like what exactly is Tulsi Gabbert up to call him more joins me now to make sense of all of this he's a political scientist at the University of Hawaii and he's followed career closely welcome happy to be here well I guess you would know if anyone would know what is she up to well you know I think people in Hawaii are every bit as confused as the folks on the u.s. Mainland about alternate plans but since the beginning of her political career she's always been an iconoclast a politician I mean she ran for the State House of Representatives at a young age she she changed her views from being somewhat conservative in opposing gay marriage to presenting herself as far more progressive So I think we're not sure either and the fact that she gave up her congressional seat here or isn't going to run for reelection rather did come as a bit of a surprise raid and so let's take apart some of the things. That comma Harris was saying there she said that bird has met with a war criminal I think she was referring to Bashar al Assad right exactly exact and that she didn't mention this but this has been mentioned in the press that she has met or has professed admiration for an around Modi in India who is also a strong man that she wanted to have a meeting with Donald Trump when he was president elect and so she has been seen as someone who is willing to cozy up to these authoritarian leaders I think that's right or at least that's certainly how the leaders of the mainstream Democratic Party are pitching it I think for her supporters they appreciate her independence I mean and as Tulsi Gabbert will say she's willing to talk to everyone this clearly has cost her support from the vast majority of Democratic voters in the primary but because of these unusual positions particularly in foreign policy she does have this extremely dedicated group of supporters she also has supporters in the all right I mean maybe she's taught Russian asset as Hunton fact but there are members of the all right who admire her that's right and that's a very unusual situation I mean I totally get rid of course has disavowed that support but I think the Albright is attracted to a for a few reasons that I think the primary reason is the Democratic party elite hate her the fact that Hillary Clinton attacked or gives her even more credibility among developed right I think there's also an appreciation at least among among more conservative voters though for her position against interventionist American foreign policy but but for strictly the all right I think a lot of her appeal comes from the fact that here is a minority Democratic congresswoman who's attacking the Democratic Party and that for them is priceless but it must go a little bit beyond that I mean you have the daily. Stormer a new Nazi Web site taking credit for her qualification in the 1st 2 Democratic primary debates I mean obviously. They're not necessarily a fount of truth and that's a great art but they are embracing her. You know and others who are seen as anti-Semitic are falling over her but he on being just a disruptor and the fact that her claim doesn't like her is there something about her and her policies that right admires Well among other things I mean totally Gabbert has also attacked the press pretty frequently something the President Trump is known to do she has a poisonous relationship with the press back here in Hawaii and has for quite some time so I think her you know almost contempt for elites in the media is certainly part of that is very attractive to them as well I think I think what they see and hope she gathered is sort of you know a fellow traveler in some ways I mean certainly not to them and told to get rid of course would disavows all of their support but I think that her you know her support for and the fact that she is a veteran and her constant attack on the media in the Democratic Party is attractive to them and a philosophical way. Here's something that she said during the November debate our Democratic Party unfortunately is not the party that is of by and for the people it's at a party it is a party that has been continues to be influenced by the foreign policy establishment in Washington represented by Hillary Clinton and others foreign policy by the military industrial complex and other greedy corporate interests now that clip was tweeted out from an account run by the chum campaign but it is something that you could imagine Bernie Sanders saying absolutely I mean this is why I totally Gabbert is so hard to put in a box and I think it's one of the things that had that infuriates the other candidates up on stage and in. Why she's beloved among the least that those who support are because of this independent streak because she does have this Bernie Sanders like opposition to corporate power but that's coupled with a almost neo isolationist view in opposing traditional American foreign policy would it be beyond the pale to imagine her polling out of the Democratic race and running as a 3rd party candidate I don't think so at all I mean I totally gathered to be fair it says she's not going to do that but this would not be out of character for her I mean she's not someone who has really respected you know you know in your place in politics and sell I think she genuinely thinks that she has a message to deliver that there is members of the Democratic Party who are not being heard by the establishment Democrats and I think she will move to an independent candidacy I suspect that's one of the reasons she decided not to run for reelection here in Hawaii so she can continue her campaign as an independent. So there's no chance that she would go back to just being a congresswoman from Hawaii. Well I mean 1st she has already declared she's not going to run for reelection for her own seat so she would have to return and get involved in Hawaii politics but she has never really been all that interested in being a legislator and her rise in politics here was extremely quick and she's changed jobs relatively frequently and I don't think she likes the work of that so much I think she likes being kind of this while what she sees as part of a visionary figure she likes being on national television and it's one of the things she was often criticized for here in Hawaii she wasn't spending any time in her district and so I don't see her coming back to Hawaii to have a career here in politics I think she sees herself more of a as a national figure now and what's what the white pantsuits. Everyone has called it's a dog that I don't know maybe it's suffragette white if she sort of looks a little futuristic but it but it seems to work I mean it. Is extremely good at getting attention from the media she always has been and that has worked so I give her a lot of credit for doing something that most people thought was impossible which is lasting this long as a relatively unknown member of Congress in the presidential race on more from the University of Hawaii thank you my pleasure. Let's just say that mean for the time to. Kill 3 words where you treat you know. The one that says she said. Today the story of a retired Ukrainian American auto worker living a peaceful life in Cleveland in the eighty's with a wife and 3 kids to church every Sunday but then in 1905 charges were filed against retired 7 hills auto worker John Demjanjuk the 60. 6 year old Ukrainian navy of is accused of being a Nazi death camp guard named Ivan the Terrible a notorious gas operator at the Treblinka extermination camp during the Holocaust $1700000.00 Jews were annihilated in Poland. And evolve the Terrible. Did the dirty work of. Somebody who delighted in hurting men women and children and babies into a gas chamber. Delighted in using a blade it took a sword even to torture people in their final moments Demjanjuk was extradited to Israel to stand trial for war crimes it was a national event on par with the Eichmann trial but evidence emerging that trial that raise doubts about his guilt the whole story is told in a riveting new Netflix documentary series called The Devil next door and journalist Tom tight Holtz is featured in that documentary series he just wrote a book about the case it's called Ivan of the extermination camp how the trials and denials of Nazi collaborator John Demjanjuk added to our understanding of the Holocaust and Tom tiles joins me now in the studio welcome Thank you Madeline. So tell us more about John Demjanjuk and the life he was leading before 906 well he was born in the Ukraine in 1920 he served in the Red Army in World War 2 He was captured by the Germans and became a German p.o.w. In that German p.o.w. Camp he was recruited volunteered to be trained at the tribe Nikky camp as a Nazi death camp guard so then between 1902 when the end of the war 945 he served as an experienced death camp guard at a number of extermination camps including Sobibor flossed and Berg Majdanek the truck Mickey camp which I mentioned and. It is alleged that he was a Trip Link up right and then somehow he gets to the United States we all well he gets the United States by lying on his application saying that during the war years he was a farmer in Poland Strangely enough the town he gave where he was a farmer was Sobibor where there was an extermination camp. And so he that nothing happens he moves United States he becomes a foreign auto worker and lives this seemingly peaceful and eventful life a good father a good community member a good church goer and then in 1975 a Russian newspaper and then a us branch of that newspaper publishes a story that says that among your mitts is a Nazi collaborator John Demjanjuk who served in the death camps so this comes out in 1905 there's an investigation he's ordered deported and and then he sent to Israel to face trial why is he sent to Israel to face trial because Israel requested his extradition for prosecution they think they've had before them a murderer and they felt that if he if nothing happened to him if he was just kicked out of the United States because the u.s. Can't prosecute for war crimes that took place during World War 2 that would not be a satisfactory result so he sent Israel to stand trial and it is becomes this big nationwide event Yes Can you describe what i

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