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KCSM The Debate November 7, 2013

And rich expense but so many militias come and gone the fee of twenty three has gone to the International Treaty to seriously plan a way to answer this offer the worlds most polluted complex will be asking to be false and yet today. Assert the other women is wrong and say hello once again to clarify. Thank you card slot these are the headlines on hiatus. This is the fact that the french tennis in money thats according to the arts the media. Ive got. John kerry he is ready and pakistani officials are determined to reach the field lately each other the apparent stalemate in that the school. That is drawing to a halt during another general strike the ones that decide whether i do know that the band. Our table news agency so hard media is reporting that upgrading the establishment grant has claimed responsibility for the kidnappings contacts anti french tennis in northern mali on saturday. Jason people and could now know the ones from system rated station are if i had just interviewed a local leader in the kit doll does not cross it to your correspondent in mauritania. Well all be a head on out what looking its best about this claim of responsibility. The action which we keep playing this afternoon and read to him the change. The key. Meet the amendment to double check to me. A change. Chinchilla i did. The occasion the camera. Tuition. Thanks very much and will be reporting from mauritania were also getting reports that a specified the rocks in connection with a scanning the sanity of the french government refused to comment on this nor does it mention comments on a little late since revelations. Mark edwards has the teeth. Read the four kidnapped is involved in the assassination of the fringe candidates in money being identified thats according to the latest information revealed by friends he stated a morgue on tuesday. Brady of prawns internationals is used and you point to battle with kidnapped and killed law cents a day off to interview nickel carnegie during key dow investigators appear to found a token and containing a list of fame numbers in the compound and the policies of the victims. This has led them to three individuals named to the french authorities on the ground in northern mali is one of them a member of the minutes and group al qaeda in islamic law grad the suspects had been questioned several times since may without ever being arrested and a further twist it appears that they can for them presented themselves to the French Ministry forces during the year. Like many rebel fighters in northern mali these men had officially trees in reconciliation following the French Ministry campaign to oust islamic minutes its in the country they named operation says all the surprise of the reform jihadis were living in a camp belonging to the White Council for the unity of as the wind. And theyve been painted since its glory harmony. Vaughans with copies of them mug shots and tapes and then into these investigators managed to apprehend the suspects as they remain staunch. Fda in paris issues and torn congo on as a semi nea was held at the table on amys imitation african on the finest and often pieces among states attending. Auntie janice his buddies arrived in paris on tuesday expensive the cob and africa while working full time. Not an easily consider now and have always considered the supplements to be an adjustment that john kerry on a visit to the middle east idea to us and to state held talks with israeli Prime Minister benjamin is to me on it. Then he met palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas. But science brain each other to the apparent stalemate in it that peace talks. Get in im going to study reports. There may be little sign of progress in the peace talks that john kerry said he was confident both sides were committed to reaching an agreement. After meeting with palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas that the us secretary of state did however try to put an end to bitter rao over israeli settlements in the west bank and jerusalem we. Consider now and have always considered the settlements to be legitimate. And i want to make it extremely clear. No time. The palestinians in any way. We as a matter of going back to the talks. But they somehow condone or accept the summer months. Several israeli officials have claimed that palestinians have agreed to settlements in exchange for the release of a group of prisoners. Though the content of recent meetings has remained secret many experts say the settlements remain one of the main sticking points of the key stocks. Earlier in the day kerry sat down with a mean that anyone who can blame the palestinians for the lack of progress. Im sure a lot of prayers. He has received from students continuing with incitement continuing to create artificial heart has continued to look for him away from the store decisions i made it to ms. Jennifers peace talks could run into another setback following the acquittal of bobby Goren Lieberman the former Israeli Foreign minister known for his strong opposition to talks with palestinians need to know who who had left the foreign minister john open pending the trial announced lieberman would return to the cabinets. This is confounded boulevard downs the wives of yes and fast with a lot to me seem end is that the swiss friends a team which carried out tests on that remains for me seems corpse of the palestinian media. Soon our thoughts as they prepare husband was poisoned with radioactive canadian arafats grave site and announced to them that a t is home to his staff. I was going off in central damascus according to syrian state media at least eight people were killed and Dozens Injured this on hand to as school at snow yet nine he was behind the attack but state media as the evening at home parents. Thats what they called the rebels. State media will say saying terrorists are behind a car bombing that the south indians to wait at least eight security personnel were killed. Activists saying that i get with the regional and false intelligence headquarters. Until now that succeeded the gnostics that finance since the civil war began. They need to act as opals about on the Muslim Brotherhood the ruling in september had also lifted its assets confiscate it. This wednesdays decision has been a suspense of the countrys oldest and most influential Business Group said tom and lucy was ousted in july. Many of its leaders have been arrested. Well the president himself went on trial at it this week. The case was his fame and troops. Attention now to greece is great says twenty four hour general strike teaches and others from the and private sectors bulked out in anger as continuous tears images this as incense tremendous decide whether to honor all fed the band money. Jennifer and i have small the trading range of protest to clean out conditions. Thousands of greeks much to comment saying that their wits end. But i doubt on that but we can take it anymore. Everyday the troika and the imf for destroying her we just dont pretend to care for kids anymore either. Were starting to have problems with basic survival. Ella priests being granted today announced its twenty hundred and fourteen billion years in foreign lands is to help cut the holes in its financing the money is coming to cats government is being forced to make massive cuts to the sector increased taxes and reduced its fiscal deficits the stairs and this is the same unemployment so its perfect for high twenty seven cents. The five hundred and ninety five kenyan women on the streets of july his accent this and that a vessel or two women. And we have been sent on to them and catch up with them. Now the contest without a shred of men the race is held more than fits the general strike since the twenty ten. Protest to save it that it plans to cut the ties nations and cuts to sector jobs. Its important to keep up the pressure. What the other one has nothing has to work as millie dictation is no help. Theres nothing that everyone missed eight straight seasons room. Strike comes a day after striker inspectors travel to athens ahead of them liked to say that with these protests is tackled the audit says. One man even contains up to touring callings that the chief of the imf nations top. Now edging closer to a peace deal colombias government and fox rebel leaders have agreed on the thorny issue of the left wing grapes future participation in politics this month and a key step towards the end of nearly fifty years the bombs conflicts of the boy remains in the center of the talks in quito a chance to hear it at that agreements on drug trafficking. Compensation for the victims of the complex and disarmament. At times he crossed his house was full of the debate arent many things but claire pride in the newsroom. A possible turning point in whats arguably the worlds most brutal conflicts certainly one of the longest and bloodiest the Congolese Army tuesday. Capturing the last rebel built up from and twenty three which is near the border with rwanda and uganda. Too often overwhelms this time the army got the act of laughing and screaming and crying due in stores and in just two months turned the tide in spectacular fashion. I dont like carrying out if they have their cache of weapons with the governments plan for how i play with it. So thats how the government is spinning the story. He and twenty three claims its a voluntary withdrawl that time it comes to kickstart uganda brokered talks. So what did turn the time too often accused of passivity. The un in its twenty thousand uniformed personnel in congo this time taking an active role just how i could see that the pressure wasnt just military the us uk and European Union had reduced aid to rule on to belong to which like uganda regularly deny its backing to mean the tutsi and twenty two billion through on the witch and the headaches finds itself without a proxy militia inside eastern congo for the first time in decades now that its been on the battlefield will kinshasa forgo the substance of peace talks. More importantly will the authorities aggressively pursue the hutu militia men within its borders militiamen who are the offshoots of those who committed their unwanted genocide. Ever since nineteen ninety four the mineral rich eastern congo is pretty much continuously been a conflict zone for civilians bearing the overwhelming brunt of the atrocities and the students finally see the light in the tunnel to the falls and gets a bit looking at a turning tide in eastern congo with us from berlin. Sea monster and find great lakes correspondent for german newspaper t easy welcome back to the show us in on. Also joining us general to meet time kong consultant expert up on the United Nations peacekeeping operations havent actively taking part in more than one himself to the states. Tts of the mechanistic harris the author most notably of um um the scramble for africas oil oppression corruption and war for control of africas natural resources. And joining us from the normandy town of canon law shall congolese journalist and blogger says the key catalan g thank you for being with us the calls and get today we join the conversation and you know on facebook and twitter are hatch act s two four debates. This back in august and twenty three was at the gates of goma the meantime the part of eastern congo. African defence review reports that over the past few weeks. Both f a r d c thats the Government Forces and the United Nations move troops to new positions around north kirra they were designed to encircle and the split pea and twenty three sq forces along a major north south axis up in the last couple of days those city to the silly canon g things have gone up fast indeed what you think was the room. The key to the success on the battlefield. Sixes. They did the country. Baillieu says the region. Then after that we discuss about. And try to treat. Islam came to mind. Three is not only won the group. The region. Right now. So for spring. Two twenty one twenty one. In the region does the highlands me and takes you to chew on its such a success. Did you know the lord my god. Then the answer is no i didnt want to enable around. Or was it an excuse to try and go trotting up the ranks and is going. As you say. Its not unnecessarily as a military victory as it seems the m twenty three certainly thinks so. They insist is reset at the top that its not a defeat but a conscious decision to graduate to the negotiating table the laughter among mobile to escape the fighting between Government Troops in the and twenty three twenty and twenty three failed me for that amount. Although the Us Government planes palm part of the mountain. It was an even until now the second point in the hills. It was not a spokesperson for the and twenty three bid to the residents of the area responding the dm twenty three a which us says that said again that said it is not a military defeats on their part. Sick of it cos of something i dont have the wit to do it enough that a bout with no cannot they were open and close the lid to the infant to finish this race. So wad if the winningest out to be saved on the tablet discuss this issue because if i can with this issue. There was no class of him. So simone tell us at. Was it a military victory or not in the citizenry and they can leave because the stuff for a kerry mccain ticket gate the art of concrete or daddy gets to get put down iam so today down downs. These are it came from and the president of stanton tuesday. They seem well which doesnt have a really high command. Thirty two to give orders to troops. So its a lot to it and seeing what to them and have a say in an x cut off dates. It was that the pnp cuts and scars african guitar yet a few days ago that in all a heads of states of the infamous been great to add that the Great Lakes Region and the south African Development corporation and to say and not outside states. And here are the assignment the new pc must be sighing income now and then see what kind of sickening to me this eon is the documents and little baby the agreement with the peace sign and its temenands sll hiding somewhere and it hits the team to take in the tree under which the congo uganda and run that its still not clear when he acts to be in so it could be located and what could be his future especially so its too early to tell you saying whether or not the end twenty three is on the run. Yes i did say at this point its time to find that to identify the claim of its type that is only to the set went to the mccain ads on this island has tested and comes out of this post before i would not drop any random admits that the situation right now. It does some people are though on one of our viewers here saying on twitter the submission of the and twenty three rebels a good step towards peace and stability. In the region. Um the locals as we were saying theyre warythe ene militias and reb movemts to disappear and reappear simone just saying that the head of the m twenty three is yet to weigh in its happened so many times over the past two decades. To give you an idea how confused it all can be meek and i shall not pass the story crowds gathered in kinshasa to find the only offer a defeated pm twenty three rebels back on their eye on me has meant when he asked us when we hear the sound of some cca. Its something they might be celebrating too quickly. Recent history has been a businesslike clinic hebrews in mineral rich eastern congo the tutsi dominated rebellions appear on the feet it and then ive some time in eight under another name. It all began with the rwandan genocide in nineteen ninety four according to the un eight hundred thousand people mostly tutsis were killed many who choose including some of the kale is then fled to congo. Off to heaven help the honda civic had to take palin nineteen ninety seven runs only the polk county and the tt was doing enough to fight against espn on hutu militia. These tensions ten into a regional conflict singleton dozen countries last five years and several Million People dead. Several years later in two thousand and eight a new tooth seen as comedies rebellion drunkenness eon bp said it was that the fight against the hutu militia. All groups also find for the regions when results is it the following out a peace agreement. The cmd integrate the companies on the box in twenty twelve it said the government was in respect of its promises and took up arms again under the name and twenty three. Today b and twenty three has been vanquished and kinshasa promises to defeat the hutu militia. Will it be enough to put a definitive end to the cycle of rebellions whether or not its anything definitive. What is so clear this up the Financial Times as one is in a rare victory is how they call it. On his twitter feed africa researcher and blogger Jason Stearns posted photos of the posters have gone up inking shots of celebrating the army he writes that its the covers because we on the battlefield in fifty years of cours key to all that to tell time call. Hes this new force three thousand men its called the force Intervention Brigade part of those twenty thousand uniforms. Peacekeepers of the United Nations that are stationed in congo. Of those three thousand troops out decisively. On one thing that stood to achieve this the same youve got to have two of the constantinople fact is the factor that the City Council Must say enough is enough we need a strong decision. And the second factor is the will of concrete to provide troops for dentist mission. And all told the channel four in the use of congo. It was enough it was enough. Ive probably said malacac1ang on supposing the wrong guy was behind that. In the state to run the stop supporting these troops and twenty three and walnuts and on the outside your country like south africa malawi tanzania where they were ready to provide troops for the support that on this and that there is a factor. The fact that the committees on me too cold to avoid the un decided to go on the oensive and that that early show when there was no mean like in congo was defeated a few months a suddenly hes able to fly its because somebody. I think the cullens off for home grown to really take care of the saw me and so they were supported by the un and supported by the golan and thats probably whats reach the picture done many many times in the past the un in eastern congo has been accu

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