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With our guest Mark Alpert the author of the coming storm and we'll get into the 3rd. Leg of the stool on which this story is balanced because one of which is this idea of genetically altering humans the 2nd is. The increased frequency and severity of storms as we have seen it. Really well documented I mean this isn't there's no politics involved it's just it's either is or it isn't and it is coming faster harder and our coastlines and then the 3rd piece of that we'll get to coming up in just a 2nd but but if that sounds kind of like Ok that's so Coastie right and or even kind of vaguely familiar remember it was Art Bell who wrote the book the coming global superstorm along with the really Whitley Strieber and that book at the time was considered like so far out there it can't believe that could possibly happen and I think it's viewed differently now even though it also was speculative science mixed in with a little bit of fiction in between and and just on t.v. I want to topped up on like USA or something so it wasn't very enjoyable but but it was interesting to see it again and then that focus was on winter was of the idea of an ice age that would develop virtually overnight which would you know what partially explained by the woolly mammoths still having food in their stomachs you know when they've been found. Millennia later but it just goes to show you really how prescient so many of our bells shows were on coast to coast am and Tom down hisor has been along with George Nory essential part of opening up the old vault of Art Bell shows So Tom I saw this announcement earlier I didn't know where the vault was ensure Minox did you actually know is there actually a physical place where we've been keeping all of these Yeah we can't tell you and you can't you see. A movie by the way well yeah yeah yeah. Yeah I mean it was interesting because there's I like it in other movies where they make Art Bell characters and he had nothing to do with the movie but they still use are exactly but this is a chance for people to access the archives of Art Bell and go back and listen to some of these early show and I know me back up just a 2nd because like we were talking about the movie and I know you're a movie buff and I just have to say if you're Rambo fan Stallone does not disappoint Yeah I would say that I'm a little behind in my in my just rambling over. There might have been 2008 the last time I suggest you know this new feature it's for the coast insiders it's called the Art Bell vault really cool thing it's a collection of classic Art Bell programs there's Mel waters in the famous Mel's hole there's the heart of it harlot the Satan loving unapologetic which I don't know well one. Whistleblower Bob Azhar and how he was assigned to work on flying saucers and there's even a rare interview with the late Colonel Philip Corso Yeah this is all really good stuff and we're going to add shows each week to this it's no extra charge for insiders and this is classic audio you really don't want to miss get this and it's all heard without interruption so this is really cool so it's going to be available on our variety of listening formats including your mobile device and in the months ahead we're going to add it to the coast app so if you're not a subscriber it's a great time to sign up right now and all you need to do is get over the coast to coast am website where all that info is right there well in light of what already happened this week is the famous Did you already mention it I missed it the guy with the flying the plane over Area $51.00 is that is that included I need to say I don't know I don't report the wrong things but it will be it's not it's the best and it will be for sure for sure when when Art Bell was inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame that was the that was the tape they. I remember we're there yeah yeah and I'll never forget it very excellent So find out more by going to the website signing up become a coast insider plus all this new bonus material from the Art Bell vault and then we'll create more radio magic coming up next as we continue this conversation about the coming storm with Mark Alpert on coast to coast am in for George Norry This is Ian Punnett. I'm Jay foreigner c.e.o. 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A world 1st his point is this should be getting a lot more coverage than it is used to cover computer technology right for Forbes or something like that back it for fortune and for Scientific American and and I did cover quantum computing quite extensively because it was actually the subject of one of my books. The Omega theory which is my 2nd novel and I'm I'm going to look into that what you just mentioned because I'm really fascinated by this you know quantum computing has really been sort of under the radar just just advancing by leaps and bounds you know to just 10 years ago. I should probably explain to listeners that what makes quantum computing so interesting is that you're actually using atoms you are using quantum phenomena you know tiny phenomena to to to make calculations using atoms almost like the beads on an abacus and you're using the strange rules of quantum mechanics which is quantum mechanics says that and Adam can be in 2 states at the same time it can it's spin to be pointed both up and down simultaneously and you it's actually it's not it's not that you don't know which it is it's actually in both states at the same time and it actually just flips to one of those states as soon as you make the observation actually making observation changes the state of it and so we think we think it's our observation changes the state of it right crazy you know people say that you know if you don't think quantum mechanics is weird then then you don't really understand quantum mechanics because it is we're right but but we also have to be careful not to think that just because something happened we don't get into a case where we are we are thinking our presence manipulates it we don't do we how do we know that for sure if you're saying that's true I thought that was just a theory. It's an interpretation it's called the Copenhagen. Interprete that's what I thought Ok yeah but there's other possibilities other possible explanations one of which is the parallel worlds the idea that every time. An observation is made that 2 realities you know diverged from the same point right it's sounds like a crazy idea and it seems like such a wasteful unit creating so many universes all the time but it's possible that's true too we just don't know you know people people take physics they they've got to step down they really know what's going on now a lot of this is really still up in the air well and so and I'm always interested in the whole shot to clear phenomenon of would we you know we think you know like the rooster thought the sun couldn't come up unless the rooster crowed and so that's also so sort of always been this parallel study for me with that with physics and the way in which we treat physics later on we find out how wrong we were and one of those things is that that idea of spin as you mentioned I don't remember what what are the different spins called is that it's up down sideways there was a floor funny names for it aren't they where the different bands and I mean it's it's a property of elementary particles and it's sort of like wrote the spin like an angular momentum spend but it's not it's analogous to a bit of diet back in the sense if basically the best way to think about it it's a property of these particles you can say well it's the direction of their magnetic orientation is one way to call it so what would be significant about this story given it's true if Google is saying we now own quantum computer supremacy What does that mean well quantum computing can allow for new types what it could be really useful for is breaking codes because you know our whole society you know all of it is based on encryption all the all the purchases that you make on the Web It's all based on the. Active we're able to make these these sort of unbreakable keys or they're not on breakable but it would take so much computer power you have to run it for so long that it's just for all intents and for practical purposes it's unbreakable a quantum computer that because it has this. It uses the indeterminacy of the heart it can all you need is a small number of atoms so it was so they're actually called cubits in a quantum computer if you have something like 100 or maybe a 1000 or 10000 cubic you suddenly can be much more powerful than a conventional computer at certain tasks and one of those key tasks is breaking codes and so that could really be a game changer for the home computer industry Well very interesting well there you go so that gives Moto has the story you can find out more at Gizmodo dot com I think the the question is a fair one then that Chris asks on Twitter which is how come this isn't getting more publicity I don't know maybe because it takes for a lot of people it just takes too much effort to explain it but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have it explained to them I thought you did a great job so thank you on that but let's there's a 3rd piece to your story so I really before we get to the calls coming of the bottom of the hour I want to say so we we kind of were blending in the coming storm elements of genetic modification both say of children and create the creation of super soldiers but then that then that's already given we already know that those types of things have been happening we know that that starting to have to say I'm not trying to say like you're claiming that it's already out there but kind of Who knows but then then the changing of the intensity in the frequency of storms has an impact on our society which then is sort of multiplied by by politics because if storms do come in and this is a really interesting maybe we can do. Katrina is kind of a model for this too is what happens when storms when a storm surge when massive flooding wipes out areas of cities simultaneously making them uninhabitable who is going to get what and if it was a really lovely neighborhood that took it hardest What would be different than say a really bad neighborhood that took a storm the hardest and and part of what you theorize here is that they didn't at least in New York after Superstorm Zelda the government the New York government would retreat and leave lawless large parts of New York and handed over to the federal government to maintain. Yeah I think what's going to happen long term is if climate warming excel in ages you're going to have societal breakdown I mean it's and it's not only just flooding but 3 it's going this is going to affect agriculture if we have lots of flooding lots of droughts worldwide it's going to really disrupt the food supply so you can imagine food riots happening I mean you know it's it's something that we're thinking long term but it's bound to happen and so. I guess I wanted to draw something that was so dark that was so horrible that makes people think Ok look let's try to avoid this bad scenario and and that's why I was so cheered today by all of the thousands tens and hundreds of thousands of young people gathering for climate marches all over the world today and I was blown away by that I was like this is this is great this is really raising the attention maybe now we can do some really basic simple things to prevent this how rable dystopia from happening I mean one of them is simply the methane rules I mean this is been in the news this summer right messing is also a greenhouse gas but it's much more powerful than carbon dioxide it's actually 80 times more powerful in one in the environment and so the natural gas industry got together and they worked with the government to create these regulations because when you when you're drilling for natural gas and you're and you're you're shipping it there's always leaks that happen and so right basically these regulations were just all about you know let's try to you know patch some of these leaks Well now the administration is not going to put in the new regulations they're loosening them and it doesn't make sense this is the industry is saying let's do this. And so stuff like that I think I really want people to concentrate on those small simple steps that we could all take to stop this terrible global warming disaster from happening well in the methane piece if I understand it and you're the scientist I'm not but is. I understand it that methane is a natural byproduct from the extraction process of natural gas natural gas being is natural gas not over here what I'm saying is that the natural gas that we use is good but then the methane comes along with it and that's something we actually don't use right or they'd be monetizing it and we wouldn't be having it escaping into our atmosphere right methane is c h 4 it is natural gas it's the stuff that you smell when you turn on your stove you know sure it is actually odorless odorless they add they add something to it but I was just I was just hearing this from somebody who was in the oil industry and they said that that's the reason why you you can't there is no there is no monetary value to methane when they're going when they're going for other natural gases No no methane is the natural gas that they're dead extracting from the great you're doing it a lot in North Dakota now and it's a big booming industry and in some ways it's a positive because it's much cleaner than crying when you burn methane it creates far fewer carbon dioxide problems to the atmosphere than coal does but one of the problems with the methane industry is when you have leakage of the methane from and so the new regulations that the government it was trying to put into place was going to get rid of that leakage and I see natural gas in even more environmentally good alternative but now the government now the administration has just said no we're not going to we're going to we're not going to put those regulations into effect I think this was a terrible decision on the federal government's part and it needs to be reversed and I'm glad that there's all these you know this this feeling among young people that here let's do this let's let's try to do something you know concrete to save the environment well and so the problem here being that if they don't make it a regulation and they leave it up to the individual companies to decide. And how much they're going to prevent methane leakage they there's no incentive there's no natural market force that's going to force them to try to prevent methane leaks if they're just left up to their own devices exactly because you know it's certainly it's probably cheaper to not to patch the leaks and so you don't want to create a situation where there's a difference and to actually fix the problem so that's why the regulations are put into effect and they're not onerous regulations lots of big energy producers were fine with and they were going along with it and till this new this new decision came down from the federal government which I like I said I think is a terrible mistake. And so these are the political impact and when it comes to then the security of the people the feeding of people that local government would have their hands full and financially be overstressed after a giant superstorm like the one you propose in the coming storm superstorm Zelda that they would they would be forced to give up protection over large areas that they was no way of getting any tax money back and they were just handed over to the federal government but you propose that the federal government wouldn't handle that well and that they would there not to be trusted with that kind of power if I'm surmising from your yeah I don't have a lot of faith in the federal government right now I feel that they're making some really bad decisions it's not only the map and it's also the fuel economy you know relaxing those standards again that's a mistake because you know the auto industry was just Ok and fine with these standards they were ready to put them in place and that would have really helped the environment so I think the administration is making a big mistake with that. So yeah that's I mean you know how to I don't like to get too much involved in it but the past couple few years it's been tough to avoid it in the news every day and so I thought. Like it just sort of made its way into this book and sort of a part of the political satirical way but but I think I do believe more in coming together rather than in fighting each other I mean I get so sick of the back and forth that people are just hurting each other and I think to me just cut to me just all come together to try to save the plan