Fair, hold your feet to to the fire. And we were talking about the hdone visa. You were talking about disney to set the stage 40 discussion today try to imagine in youve been working for this company, for 10, 15, 20 years. Before you get into that tell them what this visa is. Its supposed to be a veries a for a company to bring in skid Foreign Workers for short term reasons, in other words, a labor shortage you couldnt foresee until you can find and train American Workers. That is not what is happening. What is happening all across the country, these programs are being abused and Foreign Workers are being exploited and our American Workers are being fired. But before theyre replacements as a term of getting replacements. Talk about disney. You have a bunch of guys, hundreds ever men and women programmers, great performance reviews, getting raises, they really feel like theyre doing the job for the company. And from all external appearances they are. One day they get a meeting, a notice from executives. They think that theyre going to get a lot of applauses, and that a boys, and theyre told that they have to be fired, and they have to sign conif i had den materiality agreements is that in order to get their severance agreements, that require conif i had den donald trump is talking about, there are some lawsuits going on try to get this abuse under control. There have been some national heroes, a fellow who is on with me today, this program is part of a beast, thats out of control. A Government Program gone awry. And its brought along by unscrupulous corporations, to basically displace american need to be working in these jobs to reestablish a stable american middle class. John miano, not dodge they put these American Workers in a compromising situation. They lead them to believe that they are going to put them in another position which never pans out. That is what they say. And i think that statement about the new position is more for disney they offered these people jobs in other places which isnt true at all. So john, how do we get to this point . And why is it that people like bill gates just loves this kind of program . They love it because they can save about 20,000 per year on a Foreign Worker. The honevprogram, requires them to pay a prevailing wage, it is the 17th percentile, not the actual prevailing wage. And plus they become inden toured servants. Bill gates can pay these guys very low wages, and then bring green. It is a form of exploitation. These jobs that are being created the h one Program Brought in for things. When they created the h oneb program. Like any Government Program over time entrance mogrified. The f foreign station, and then the hone b, the e b, program for Foreign Trade investments these laws are not being enforced any programs, it is a major tidal waves. Its not like all these American Workers have all of these great options to move into the class. We were told that these jobs that were outsourced would be the path to a stable middle class future. Wall street that isnt going to happen. An education, doesnt necessarily mina proven middle class income. When were trying to figure the american middle class economy. The hone b, program is capped, except there is a component of the hone b program. Theyre not capped if they use programs for their professional graduate programs, theyre working with interstatups, and other. And the Obama Administration has not cleaned it up, theyve made it worse. They need to clean up this program and a whole range of these programs to protect the American Worker. Well be back with more, john miano, is it fair to allow immigrants to come into this country to undercut american jobs . Well, first of all, theyre not technically i am grants. Theyre guest workers, in theory, theyre only coming here for a short period of time and going back home. See how fair is it for the Governmental Program to allow companies to bring in replacements for in theory, only here on a temporary basis. Should americans be given a preference when it comes to these specialized positions, should it be based on merit alone . Well, it should be based on americans first. I mean thats supposed to be the principle of the immigration system, is to protect americans from foreign labor. The program about merit, its great to talk about merit. But in reality, were not dealing with low cost here. The people at disney werent fired because they could get better people from india. They were fired and replaced because they could get cheaper people. Lets juxtapose from a the gop side, and the democratic side. The democrats want it happen because it means more votes for them, apartment republicans want it because it means cheaper labor for big business. Dynamics, both parties have been pretty much equal opportunity assault on American Workers here. The big change here is donald trump. Donald trump is the first president ial candidate to come out and say that hes against this. And the pundit s were saying that george bush was to replace americans with Foreign Workers, and then donald trump says we wouldnt be replacing American Workers with Foreign Workers, and the pubdates in washington cant figure it out. I also wonder why big business is really allowed to run rough shod on this shaw especially when you realize the price that americans are paying for job loss in the long run. I mean think about it. Companies are also working with universities to have them paying work on these companies, theyre fueling money that our political system. And our political system which insatiably needs money tkhoerpbgts care about the middle class. There are only two arguments for the h1b program. You cant even train an American Worker to have, and thats why are very five those, or you can argue that they are going to start a business because theyre entrepreneurial. That is not the point of the h1b program, and that is why they created. And wall treat is trying to defend it, saying youre bringing in entrepreneurs. Americans have always been entrepreneurial, we all know how to start businesses, and what youre talking about is suborder servants, they are guest workers, they are in a suborder nighted status, they want to bring money back home, and naturally they accept a set of working conditions, and money that no american would or could. They transform that labor market, making it im tract i have for American Workers, and distorting the american process, by which we recruit American Workers into those fields, and the longer any Companies Get access to a greater labor pool. The existence of the American Workers, creates the shortage. People arent going to go into the field and the employers dont want to hire them. It also creates age discrimination. What is going on is an older more seasoned, American Workers are being fired by these companies because they want to pay less for these young Foreign Workers, you have people work experience. Take a look at American Workers in their 40s and fifties, it is a national crime. John miano, what i mentioned to you about bill gates, many of these technology ceos, they really want to move the complete cap on these h1b visas, why they are so adamant about totally removing this cap, and what are the consequences of the h1b program started at 6, 5,000 a year, and then starting in the late nineties, industry started asking for more and more workers, and there were increases in 1998, 2000, and 2004, and congress got tired of them asking for more and more and more. And then in 2008, that he go the Department Homeland security to use student visas for regulation. What they would like to do is below the lid off and end the lobbying process offing in increases, and there is a d economy. It only creates unemployment. So what sector are we talking about. Remember h1b work remembers now working all across the economies, because the regulations have liensed up. And they get applications approved, they think of h1b like highly skilled, in microprocessing, were talking about garden variety teachers, and people who collect gash and, employer believes that they cant get anybody, and ty have to advertise above a certain minimum skill level, maybe two years of college, the people coming in through h1b are garden variety four year college graduates, not what you think of when you talk about extraordinaryeducation and ability. Hold that, we will come back. We are back in the studio with john miano, we were talking about brexit. That Foreign Workers were coming from the eu, to not only work in england. Once you got in through the eu, you could work anywhere. To tell you how powerful corporate interests are to maintain access to foreign labor. Brexit said it would be the end of the western sivilization. Sabre rattling, and the same crowd that lobbies conference, they like the lobbying process, they basically get to sell visas, big checks to political donors, we have to have these visas, they raise political money by giving away residency for Foreign Workerstor work in the us. And the othe left, immigration has become a immigrants means more democrats we can see that. And then Hillary Clinton said im so concerned about labor displacement. That has how important these guys have made. Suddenly Hillary Clinton cares more about these jaxers, even though her big Amnesty Program is going to dessemieight lesser skilled workers. We have to have hope. We want to go back to an immigration service, that people who legally come here, work hard but not using systems that exploit workers and displace americans. John miano, curious enough, should this kind of visa program exist at all, and if you were to say that it should exist, how should that look . Well, i would say that this type of program should not exist at all in the way that it does. Through what congress put into law, not what Congress Actually says. And the purpose of this program is to generate legal fees, bring as many people as you can through the system, make it as complicated as you can, and drive money to lawyers processing fees, and the second purpose to bring in cheap labor, so theres not really a need for such a program, and this is why whenever Congress Works on bills, we have arm lawyers marching on washington to write them. Bruce morrison was an immigration lawyer 1990s, and he was raising a lot of political money on promising bringing these visas, this and an irish Amnesty Program, and john is factually right, in and the immigration lawyers tell the companies we have to bring and now all of the evidence is being hurt by this program. To bring it home, and actually get the legislative fix, we need to scrub the h1b program, tighten back up, the Obama Administration, has loosened these other categories, the if program, the Occupational Training program, the l program, theres a series of these categories, it is a tidal wave an avalanche, a beast that has to be brought out of control. Or we will never utmost pressure, they say that high wage workers are important for American Economic recover i how are you going to get wages to go up, if youre constantly flooding the market with foreign labor. We have cheap time, we will come back with a little more time with john miano. Im away. Welcome you can back, we are back with and strong. Lets go back on john scott. I dont think its any difference. If we were in a republican administration. In their own way they both dont show the necessary integrity on this issue to make it work for the American People overall, because they both have their own agenda i dont know if urea wear that michelle and i wrote a book, and we talked about how both parties have worked together to basically rake over the american public. Were sitting here dialing with an issue. Americans are being fired and replaced by Foreign Workers, and where is the outrage. When that happens, floor saying this shouldnt be happening. Legislation should be immediately address the and this put to an end to, when it started in the 1990s, congress made it legal to replace Foreign Workers on the h1b program. How did an immigrant get such a strong advocate for them as the Foreign Worker at the expense of we the emergencyingiatries, intel, facebook, google, they all Work Together to push these visas. They form these allegiances with the left wing, and then want a big Amnesty Program to move into the voting booth. A powerful block, when you have people in the business wing, and people on the far left working together, a little guy in the middle gets screwed, and there arent that many advocates area. Money is on the other side. Exploitation, agreed. Take a look at the defense of things like slaverry. Take the defense of indentured servitude is a force that is great. It is going to take a lot to get these programs abolished, rewritten or take control. John miano fine team on with gla, and dante, whos running the show, and all the fine people here on news channel eight for this captioning made possible by rysher entertainment captioning made possible by rysher entertainment im marty stouffer. 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