And when Congress returns from recess site Specter in the administration as well as the leaders on the Hill are going to be advancing some proposals bar didn't say exactly what he thinks the president's proposals will be Clayton Dallas the trouble ministration has announced plans that could hold undocumented families detained together indefinitely acting homeland security secretary Kevin Macklin and says the new rule would let the administration keep families in detention longer than 20 days though that's not the goal there's no intent to hold families for a long period of time in fact we have a prior experience that shows we were able to average under 50 days that is the intent for a fair but expeditious immigration proceeding the rule as part of the administration's aggressive effort to revamp immigration laws as the number of families and unaccompanied minors crossing the Us Mexico border has increased it's almost certain to spark a new court fight over the government's ability to hold families until their cases are decided a Bay Area teenager has accomplished an amazing feat in the waters around New York City 16 year old age Elmo ray of San Carlos competed in a 28 mile swim around Manhattan Island Saturday doing it all for charity enjoyed said several World Records over the years and I saw him across and the Catalina Channel we will take a look at the roadways with Heather next on. 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Franklin was a good idea here long. I still laugh in at the Trumps now being. The green when you know it's nasty nasty people did they not you know entertain his a ludicrous idea I mean it's apparently. I mean he really did think there was a possibility that another country I mean he's that kind of guy but anyway. So here's my question to you Facebook is now a Facebook and Apple alphabet now Amazon the fangs Facebook Apple Amazon not Netflix but Google the fat Well it's fang with at the end. Anyway. A group of up to 20 states attorney generals organizing a joint antitrust probe into these big tech companies this is nothing to do with. The federal investigation but the state level effort of Wall Street Journal's reporting is separate again from the federal probe which was announced last month of the 2 are likely to dovetail. The states involved are likely to include attorneys general from both sides giving this bipartisan way to the effort now the idea is that they have too much of the market Ok and that there's no I mean that there are 3 competition let me ask you Would you I and you because this is what it comes down to in your and when you talk about these things would you rather there be a facebook or not be a Facebook I would rather there not be a Facebook really. Then have Facebook you go away I would write I would love if the world did not include Facebook absolutely Wow that's weird why would you say that I think gives to give so much pleasure. And joy to people Oh I always have people here I understand the obviously I'm on it all the freaking time it's a time suck I think that there's a lot of benefits I think that the negatives outweigh them though what and what negatives are those I think that it wanted to tie the very basic it's a times I'm going to in a temper and so on you come on well yes it's literally the way the up and the website are designed. So please that's Ok I didn't know that you were a Facebook cheerleader even want to hear me like ins or no and I got to stop you along the way why don't you ask a question I'm sure answer oh you know you're here for my answer and we'll go back so you said it's a time since it's times like it separates us from our families I think that it allows for irresponsible behavior it's making money off off of us without our consent it's tracking us it's leading to misinformation. Those of those are at least 6 things like Ok off the top of my Ok the times I love it start with I want to take notes so you have to help me out on the other side to the Times like this so you're blaming Facebook for your weaknesses Oh absolutely no I've got you want to know what I think because I've listened to many many developers apa developers have spoken about this very thing what did they design it for that don't mean head it's just like your vision is of course it's the same Marshall McLuhan reported that 5050 years ago right and I think that there's nothing wrong with watching less television either I know but you don't want to shut t.v. Down no but I think that Facebook being able to put something up on Facebook as quickly as you can and for it to disseminate as quickly as it can is a lot different than television listen don't be mad at me you want to be sucked into the Facebook world will I never I'm saying this world would be much better if Facebook didn't exist and I bet there's a lot of people that agree with me but you go I did over time I did actually disappear it would take an adjustment but I bet I'm going to miss about much honestly this is the weakest majority argument I've ever heard you asked me a question I gave you my answer there's no. There's no wrong answer it's the way I feel I would much rather not have a world with Facebook and it. But the 1st step and you get off it somewhere then right but it's a detour I've been given choices. And also gives me connected the good parts the good parts of Facebook it keeps me connected to all the groups that I'm in with Girl Scouts and parenting and pictures and all those things that's what keeps me health but then once you're in it it's just like looking at Facebook all day I have this huge eating grin on my face or your face I look at it all you want I don't know how does not own Facebook I don't know I don't know but why are you defending it because I'm defending its right to do what so many billions of people love now attorneys generals of 20 states in the federal government Trump is doing it because he believes it's in the Conservatives are now upset because they said we're going to get rid of fake news or going to get make sure that when the stories of p.r. That they're they're good they're not plants from Russia and now they're being attacked look. To me Facebook is a wonderful bridge to the internet for a lot of people and you don't get the you know we don't need it you have Patterson must be having coffee because I know. People go on Facebook you put something on there people comp compliment or you get an argument you look at somebody funny videos and you get off you go do something and I think that you're coming at it from a position which you've said at least multiple times in the last couple of minutes that you're never on Facebook when you see a lot but I'm very surprised that a little bit more time on it and see how our conversations devolved there is no there's no meaningful discourse happening on Facebook people are just trolls and yelling at each other people are putting up fake news I guarantee you want to talk about you know that echo chamber that is Facebook to ut t. What you like what you click on they just show you more of you think that's making people smarter you dads educating people about what's real and fake Manny No not at all come on do you think that Dancing With The Stars makes people smarter and better know that I would have so much rather you know what I would like to go back to the days when Facebook was just food posts and baby pose and pet pose because there's no fake news in that but then all of a sudden it was taken over as your new. Source and that's a b. As you don't know many people or Except that you won't if you're there people that have been following my Nikki Medoro k. Jo Facebook page and think that you're going to troll all of the people that follow me as well I'm blocking you I make you my Facebook page. So there is there's a amulet built inside of Facebook so you know you're short on but you have to want to I know a lot of people that are like no I follow all of these reputable news organizations like Breitbart So this is like Are you kidding Yeah I again this is a free world and you know now the Internet is free and you don't have to go online you know you don't have to get your calls do exist it's not a right of Facebook to exist the court Well actually it's a yeah it's a right to exist Well I mean you could cite the company but I mean if it disappeared I don't have to defend it I'm just trying to say that it's not I mean it's not what it should disappear because it's not popular Well it shouldn't disappear because there is a control yourself and that's what you're saying I mean by that because people can control themselves yes that's exactly what I'm saying people can control them so they cannot of course they can We don't know but they can they choose not to I mean it's like I could quit doing drugs but for drug addicts they cannot Should we get rid of this is like oh this goes to the whole thing never when I forget the mayor's name and the former Mayor Bloomberg and New York we got rid of the Big Gulp cups they said we don't people are too heavy so we got here in the Big Gulp cups and I go really seriously you think that's why people are fat because the Big Gulp cups. I mean people have this is this is this is Chip in libertarian land here but it's actually what makes this country great you know if we want to keep f. Ing with good successful businesses that are out there are heart not injurious to the general public then you know we're going to hurt our environment because the stronger the stronger our economy is the better we can treat the environment better we can do things to make our country stronger our country is built on business to let middle letters of business. Us I mean that's a real real significant thing that people don't get why I don't understand I don't understand what you don't understand I feel like I've made myself abundantly clear but I mean I'm just you're not going to change my mind if that's what you're saying I don't understand why you don't I don't agree with you I don't understand how you don't see the inherent. Mixed logic in there you're saying I mean you're you believe that I think that Facebook is really successful what Facebook does which is make money off of our information and our data Facebook is an extreme a success story on that but what does it give back to us yes it connects us to people that we might not know you know be connected to before but maybe that's a good thing well it is a reason why you know you should know where your ex-boyfriend is when you having a hard time with your husband you know what I'm saying what if there's something wrong with people that told him for example here is there is something wrong with people period and I think they spoke can bring out the most the worst part of us often Ok so let's compare I mean I don't get the Google thing I don't get the attack on Google I mean Google Well the good the but the problem with Google which I love love you Dougal is it's in everything it is tracking has it's just like Facebook on steroids it knows where you are and knows where it's going to go in those that you're about to search for I mean I didn't think something in my brain and I'll start to sort of in Google and Google already Now here's you know here's the irony of going after Google and Facebook and Apple but not Twitter because Twitter is not I mean Twitter's not as successful so not all but Twitter is actually worse on a level of 10 the way that wars go on Twitter and the things that happen on Twitter right right it's I mean in some ways a different way but I hear you. Again that the social experience in general not just online can be a 1000000 things we all know how cruel people can be starting in 7th grade to the person but I want zits I remember this because I was for some reason I'm sure before they like it so I remember having zits. Remember the remember these things for the rest your life right there is a picture of Earth matter space and they said oh that's too space. Now imagine if they put that on Facebook for the whole world to obviously you know you put I had I didn't have acne and I had been acne in a permanent thing I guess I would have felt worse but it was just like you know and I thought I remember the time thinking what I can I'm going to beat that guy. So it just brings out the best of you. And my point is is you can have that anywhere and Facebook is not Facebook is the high diving board if you want to climb the stairs and get up there you've done it voluntarily You know I mean I think that a lot of people innocently joined and I think they. Just joined you want to connect with their friend I know I recently joined innocently as well but I think that once you hit a certain age and then all the groups and all the you know entertainment aspect of Facebook you get sucked in and now all of a sudden you know exactly what you're doing yourself a little debate with so many don't know let's ask you know cool heads out there 808810 is a phone number so Facebook is it and we got attorney generals going after they want to bust it up is a world better without Facebook. Answer this question. That's how you win conversations if you sow talk me anyway. But I don't really know and I don't think they really know where they're going to go with this I mean I've heard Pat and others with Warren and other say they want to break it up I go what will break it up into what exactly like because Instagram if you're going to be I just picture is what's basically Instagram although you can make you can take those 2 and break those apart but I don't really know I mean so if Instagram had to be on by somebody else instead of Facebook you know I mean then Facebook is so Facebook's not allowed to create anything that's like Instagram I mean you know I mean when we tell companies that they can expand or diversify then you're setting them up for failure because that's how most companies move forward in many. Times you know I can't think of an example right now but I know there are you know a company you realize or that company started to something else oh yeah this was a 2nd company they created the 1st one died and this is the one they went for well it's also consolidation I mean it's just like when you look at him he's not really his food company is you know beverage companies I mean that you think that you have a bunch of choices but it's all like a handful of companies so if you guys and I and I and I beg you to consider this I mean if you go after Google you're going to miss school I mean Google is. Easing of course I think that there I think that. Drove me crazy was the Republicans when they were saying lately Google is trying to help trump a new because whenever we typed in you know it's from space. Like yeah we know. And I sometimes do that just I come up with additives like for like you know like you know the seawall for that I use. Trumps the waffle in my videos will show. Anyway 88 people don't want to see waffle watch the video Yeah why do you do it or I actually came up with a new word and you say it on air because I know you can now carry anyway that they're on that and I you know I don't put them on Facebook as much as I used to people always have peace but I'm on Facebook but you know like I think I told you I have a video that I put on the other day and I got 36000 views in one day one day I put it on Facebook at 440 because they want me to pay right so I mean so I get it I just don't pay attention to Facebook is that's what main reason I backed off Facebook is because they want me to give them money and I don't we all have choices Mike you're on the chip in Nikki tell tell her she's wrong. She's not wrong. She is 100 percent right and our data would be way more secure Facebook wasn't around high 1st of all your data is everywhere dude Google has more data than Facebook and one day Google has more data than Facebook doesn't a year or so the I have been looking at here for a minute I mean how many times have you been and what was your 1st automobile where did you go to high school you know all of that data are you know question to access your bank account the secret question to get into all of your data people ask on Facebook and all it takes is you know a few dollars to gather that data and then if you're really a bad person you can go in and start accessing people because it will follow that of oh no net and then me and then I know I know a little bit about this whole kind of thing we say 1st of all there's 2 ways to compromise data the 1st test which is never used is the brute force attack you know like so you try to come in like yes you know I have many I