here. what was the true impetus was there were intimate family photos that were taken from him, literally stolen. there's no dispute that they would be -- former family, second family. him and picture of his mother, families celebrities. they probably have no value to most people but have all the value in the world to mr. simpson. mr. beardsley represented that he had these photos and i tried to obtain those intimate family photos that were basically all mr. simpson wanted in the first place. unfortunately mr. beardsley was never able to get those to me. he explained he had them. i tried to make every effort to get those from him. at some point along the line we lost contact and i just discovered that he had passed away. i will speak on his behalf -- >> dan abrams, when you're going through the beginning of this hearing, his score is very low, considered low risk if he is let out. the question i have is how much leeway, then dorks the commissioners have, factoring in everything they've heard the last hour or is this precooked? >> coming into this, there was the sense that o.j. simpson would be released. is it possible to lose a commissioner or two? probably not. the form is supposed to be filled out methodically. he is much worse here than he was in 2013. i don't think his lawyer is helping his case. >> our colleague has covered o.j. for most of the last 20 quleers, as have you, the original trials. this is the same o.j. >> jim was just saying that to us in our internal system here. it is. it's the exact same o.j. i remember talking to o.j. simpson in the civil case in the hallway all the time. and it was always about deflection, never taking responsibility, never admitting anything. it's the same o.j. >> one of the things we did spend a lot of time -- that was a small portion of our conversations, was the remorse on mr. simpson's part. most of the time we were talking about other unfortunate things that happen ed with mr. fromon, some civil litigation primarily against one of the uncharged co-defendants in had this case, riccio. i told him i would look into it, and explained that he should talk to his lawyers involved in that civil litigation to try to make that judgment, do whatever he wants them to do. it was unfortunate. i believe that this is an opportunity to show you that in the criminal case he's completely the victim but has filed a civil lawsuit and the jury found fromong 60% liable for what happened here. it was pretty unique, to say the least. in any event, mr. fromong is going to testify. he did represent that he would testify favorably for mr. simpson and discussed with me this idea of some civil judgment out there that he was hoping that mr. simpson could take care of for him. that's it. thank you very much. >> any closing remarks? >> i haven't prepared any except that i've come here -- spent nine years, making no excuses about anything. i am sorry that things turned out the way they did. i had no intent to commit a crime. i came here, tell the inmates all the time, i don't want to hear about your crime we're all convicts. do your time. don't do anything to extend your time. i told the warden when i got here, miss carpenter and miss beacon i would be no problem. i believe in this justice system, will honor what the jury said and i will be no problem. i think i kept my word. i've done my time. i would like to get back to my family and friends of the believe it or not i do have some real friends. i don't think i could have represented this prison -- i don't think any inmate has ever represented it better than i. i did my time. i tried to be helpful to everybody. as i said, bruce and beardsley, i made up with them years ago. i'm sorry it happened. i'm sorry to nevada. i wish riccio had never called me. i thought i was glad to get my stuff back but it wasn't worth it. nine years without my family, it wasn't worth it. i'm sorry. >> just one more thing for the record. 9-29-22 is your expiration. all those people in the world wondering how that adds up to 33 years in the state of nevada, good behavior, complying with the rules can mean up to a 50% reduction off the back end of your sentence. if granted parole, that september 29th, 2022 time could even move closer. i wanted to put that on the record. and at this point, i'll ask miss bautista if you will move mr. lavergne and mr. simpson again and we invite mr. fromong to the table. >> we will now hear from bruce fromong, one of the victims of o. swrnchts simpson on that day. you heard o.j. say he felt he made good with mr. fromong many years ago. now we're going to hear him testify on oj's behalf. >> state your name for the record and then please proceed. >> it is bruce fromong. thank you for the opportunity to be able to speak today. first and foremost, i would like to state that i'm not here just as mr. simpson's friend of almost 27 years. because that i am. today i'm also appearing as the victim of the crime on september 30th -- or september 13th of 2007. on that day, i felt that mr. simpson was misfwieded. not by himself but also by tom riccio. he was led to believe that thousands of his pieces of personal memorabilia, picture of his wife from his first marriage, pictures of his kids, arnelle and jason. family heir looms, possibly his wife's wedding ring, thousands of things. he was misled about what was going to be there that day. thomas riccio had promised him this big package. in reality, once -- thomas riccio had never met me his entire life until the night of the robbery. he got there, saw this stuff. he went down, got oj and instead of telling him that's not what was there, he brought him up anyway. when o.j. got there, unfortunately, he was already worked up and had people with him that were yelling and screaming. there was a lot of commotion going on in a very small room. real small room, wasn't it, o.j.? and a lot of things happened very quickly. unfortunately, if o.j. had said everybody out of here, bruce and i need to talk for a minute, none of this needed to happen. but that didn't happen. one thing i want to make clear it took me two years in a california court because -- and a judge's infinite wisdom. instead of going ahead and turning things -- after having to fight the goldmans' lawyers, o.j.'s lawyers and it took me two years to get back over 600 items, the majority of it did come back to me. i had to go back 19 years through our friendship. i had to go back 19 years, produce records for almost 98% of the stuff. and it is true that items in that room belonged to o.j. there were no two ways about it. but it's also true that i have never stolen anything from o.j. i have never stolen from o.j. i think o.j. will admit that i did not ever take anything from him. it wasn't me. an ex-partner of mine and his mistress, christy lucameier, other people have taken things from o.j. i've never stolen from o.j. is he my friend, always has been and i hope will remain my friend. but there were things in that room, i admit to that. i'm sorry things did not work out differently. and i will make this clear to you. o.j. never held a gun on me. there was a coward in that room, a man named mcclinton came up gangster style, acting like a big man. he held the gun on me. not o.j. another man came in, hit me. not o.j. he never laid a hand on me. lot of people were yelling "bag that stuff up. let's get out of here." during the trial -- >> against o.j. and this is why -- >> after i already testified against o.j., i already said everything i already had to say, we happened to pass each other in the hallway. he came up to me and said can i talk to you for a minute? we had a chance to talk to each other. i told him i'm sorry that i did not get the opportunity to call him and tell him that i had that stuff, those few items that belonged to him. i told him i'm sorry that -- because we had been apart for a long time. we hadn't had a chance to talk for many, many years. and i wish i had have. and he said, bruce, i can't tell you how sorry i am. we have a saying between us. it is what it is. he put his hand out and i said i forgive you. we all make mistakes. o.j. made his. he has been here. from what i'm told, he has been a model inmate. he has been an example to others. during the trial, i recommended that he serve one to three years. that's what i recommended to the d.a. i'm here to say that i've known o.j. for a long time. i don't feel that he's a threat to anyone out there. he is a good man. i know that he does a lot for other people. and i feel that 9 1/2 to 33 years was way too long. and i feel that it's time to give him a second chance. it's time for him to go home to his family, his friends. this is a good man. he made a mistake. and if he called me tomorrow and said, bruce, i'm getting out. will you pick me up? juice, i'll be here tomorrow. i mean that. >> thank you. appreciate your comments and appreciate what you said today. thank you. >> thank you for this opportunity. >> you're welcome. mr. lavergne and mr. simpson, if you'll return to the table, please. [ inaudible ] >> what's going to happen now is deliberation. again, another thing we do with every single case but a little differently today because, frankly, we need our offices back, folks. so, we're hoping to deliberate, come to an agreement sbb able to produce an order some time in the next 30 minutes or so. so, what's going to happen is we are going to break. and then after deliberating, we'll come back to this room. i'll ask each commissioner to vote. i'll vote myself. if we are able to agree when those votes are cast, that will be a final decision. if it becomes obvious that there is a split on this particular panel, i have commissioners eddie gray and commissioner michael keilar stand by in las vegas and they will -- either we will call them. they will either cast a vote then or ask for -- to return to deliberation. that is what we're planning at this moment. we are about to leave the room. i know officer bautista is going to arrange to clear the courtroom there also. i ask 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o.j. simpson did. want to go back to matt guttman at the lovelock correctional center. what will happen in these intervening couple of months if o.j. is set for release on october 1st? >> he sits and waits for a couple of months. he goes back to his cereal in the gym, goes back to the gym. if he does get paroled he'll probably be moved to another facility closer to reno or more likely las vegas and from there he'll be released. we probably won't know when he'll be released. he'll probably do that quietly and we won't know exactly where he's going although a clear indication from that hearing is that he does want to go back to florida. he had a home. he lost it to closure and that's where his two youngest children are and that's where he likes to play golf. he had a lot of friends including those that were there in the room and will take care of o.j. he said had o.j. been with me that night i would have taken care of him so that's what we think he's going to do. >> we will know likely within the next 30 minutes is whether o.j. simpson will indeed get parole for that board of commissioners and that parole board. the commissioners are deliberating now. we will come back when we have a decision. stay with us.