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Bosch had been under investigation for selling performance enhancing drugs to a range of professional athletes. The most famous was yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez. Last summer, after bosch was exposed, rodriguez and 13 other players, all boschs clients, were suspended. All accepted their penalties except rodriguez, who appealed. After a contentious private hearing, Major League Baseballs arbitration judge took rodriguez out of the game for the 2014 season. This, despite the fact that there is no positive drug test for rodriguez. After the decision, rodriguez repeated that he has never taken performance enhancing drugs in the years that hes played for new york. Tonight, you are going to hear details of the evidence much of it from bosch himself, who testified for five days behind closed doors. As we first reported in january, what bosch said in that hearing sealed the fate of baseballs highestpaid star. Once Alex Rodriguez was fully into your protocol, what were the various banned substances that he was taking . Tony bosch testosterone, insulin growth factor one, human growth hormone, and some different forms of peptides. Pelley all of them banned . Bosch all of them banned. Pelley and he knew that. Bosch he yes, he. He did. Pelley and you knew that . Bosch and i knew that. Pelley was rodriguez injecting himself with these substances . Bosch alex is scared of needles. So, at times, he would ask me to inject. Pelley youve injected him . Bosch yes. Pelley personally . Bosch personally. Pelley tony bosch told us Alex Rodriguez became his client in 2010. Bosch says he supplied pro athletes with banned drugs almost ten years a corrupt sideline to his antiaging clinic called biogenesis, which was once in this Florida Office building. On august 4, 2010, rodriguez hit his 600th home run in his quest to become the greatest home run hitter of all time. Tony bosch told us it was five days before this moment that he was summoned to a Florida Hotel to meet rodriguez for the first time. Bosch the first words out of his mouth were, you know, what did Manny Ramirez take in 2008 and 2009 . What were you giving him what. What were you giving Manny Ramirez . cheers and applause out towards right center field for Manny Ramirez. Pelley bosch says Manny Ramirez came to him at the age of 35, and the next season, he nearly doubled his home runs. Ramirez retired in 2011 after testing positive for doping. Bosch says that rodriguez wanted in on the secret. Bosch alex cared. Alex wanted to know. He would study the product. He would study the substance. He would study the dosages, because he wanted to achieve all his Human Performance or in this case, sports performance, objectives. And the most important one was the 800 Home Run Club. Pelley the 800 Home Run Club . Bosch which was only going to have one member, Alex Rodriguez. Pelley bosch told us, to tailor a doping program for rodriguez, he needed to know how long various drugs stayed in rodriguezs body. He says doses and timing were critical so rodriguez would not test positive after a game. Bosch says he often drew rodriguezs blood at specific times to see how quickly the drugs dissipated. He remembers, one night, a blood test was supposed to be done precisely at 8 00, but rodriguez was in a miami night club. Bosch so we ended up drawing the blood in the bathroom of this one Restaurant Bar club in the bathroom stall at 8 00 p. M. Pelley with the crowd there . Bosch with the crowd right there. Pelley people coming in and out of the mens room, i take it. And youre in a stall with Alex Rodriguez drawing his blood . Bosch yes. As crazy as that sounds. Pelley what were you thinking . Bosch im not getting paid enough. Pelley bosch told us he was getting paid 12,000 a month, in cash. In return, bosch prepared this elaborate drug schedule for rodriguez. Bosch says that his records show the days and times of injections, plus when to use skin creams and oral medications. Six substances on this list are banned. One is testosterone troches or lozenges bosch also calls them gummies which, he says, were taken in combination with growth hormone and all the rest. Bosch he would put one of these troches in his mouth probably about ten, 15 minutes before game time, or as soon as he went into the field. A player could take it right before game time. And by the time they get back into a locker room after the game and there was any possibility of testing, they would test negative. They would test clean. Pelley if you were telling Alex Rodriguez to take these gummies a few minutes before the game, hes taking these in the locker room or the dugout. Thats quite an image. Bosch quite an image. Theyre so small that you could literally, while sitting in the dugout, take it, put it in your mouth, and people could think its either Sunflower Seeds or a piece of candy or a piece of gum, for that matter. Pelley and how would that help if he took it just a few minutes before a game . Bosch well, now, all of a sudden, his levels of testosterone are higher. It gives him a little bit. It gives him more energy. It gives him more strength. It gives him more focus. And in combination with the growth hormone, that combination would make playing the game of baseball a lot easier. Pelley you know a lot of people are watching this interview right now saying, how could he . How could you . Whats the answer to that question . Bosch i did it because i had a responsibility, i felt i had a responsibility to do it, to let them know that if theyre going to take Something Like this, do it the right way. Pelley you might have said to these players when they came to you, look, dont do any of this stuff. It breaks the rules of baseball. Dont do this. Did you ever say that . Bosch no. I never said that. My approach to all this, and ill stand by it now and ill stand by it forever, was, youre going to do this. Let me show you how to do this. Let me educate you. And lets do it the right way. And sure, lets not get caught while were doing this. Pelley boschs education in doping is self taught. He studied at a medical school in belize, but he has never had a license to practice. He grew up in miami, and, to us, he seemed like a troubled guy heavy drinker, heavy smoker, dealing in prescription drugs. In 2013, the Florida Department of health cited him for practicing medicine without a license and fined him 5,000. A lot of people are going to say, if you hadnt been caught, youd still be doing it . Bosch i would have to say yes. But thats not what happened. I got caught. So, i did what was the right thing to do. So, yes, would i be doing it if i didnt get caught . Id still be doing it. Im here to say the truth, so that is, that is the truth. Pelley one thing is certainly true bosch has lied about this case. Hes had it both ways. This is what he said after the scandal broke. Bosch no comment. Im a nutritionist. I dont know anything about performanceenhancing drugs. Pelley bosch says the story he tells today is backed up by hundreds of Text Messages that he says he exchanged with rodriguez. We have more than 500 of them. They are blackberry b. B. M. Messages. Major League Baseball says the pin number attached to the messages matches a blackberry owned by rodriguez. Bosch says those testosterone lozenges were taken both before and during a game. This question came from the device linked to rodriguez. Gummie at 10 45 am . Game at 1 00 pm. Bosch responded 10 30 am. What difference does 15 minutes make . Bosch all the difference in the world. Every difference in the world, every minute counts. Pelley at what point in a game was too late to take a troche, what inning . Bosch in alexs case, probably right after. Right after the first inning, second inning. Pelley any later than that and there was a chance the testosterone would turn up in the leagues random postgame urine tests. Bosch says that rodriguez was tested by baseball more than a dozen times all turned out negative. He told us hed given rodriguez tips on ways to beat that test. Bosch you want to start the test, and then introduce the urine cup into the stream and what you want to capture is the middle of the stream, not the beginning or not the end of the stream. That was extremely important because most of the metabolites are either in the beginning of the stream or at the end of the stream. Pelley its that precise . Bosch its that precise. Pelley during this 2012 game, rodriguez drove in three runs, and smashed a 418foot double. Arod hits a deep one to center. Alex rodriguez, in his hometown of miami, has given the yankees a 42 lead. Pelley the next morning, a message from the rodriguez blackberry read really good. Explosive. Bosch replied go with same protocol. What we didnt find in the messages is the name of any performance enhancing drug. Rodriguezs lawyer has said thats because they were talking about nutrition, but bosch says its because they used code words. He says the word cohete misspelled in the message is spanish for rocket and that meant injectable drugs, according to bosch. Night cream was loaded with testosterone. In 2012, a message attributed to rodriguezs blackberry said feel good, big day tomorrow. What do you have . Bosch texted back these instructions one click of night cream at night, one cohete at night, one click of night cream in the morning, one gummy in the a. M. , four clicks of day cream before leaving the field, one cohete in a. M. , pink cream before the game, any oral pills in the a. M. Alex had a great game. He doubled, he scored twice. What did his performance tell you about what you had told him to take . Bosch that we had the right protocol. Pelley i wonder why he trusted you so much. Bosch i was very good at what i did. I had a track record. I have been doing this for many years. If you had the knowledge that i had, the experience that i had, and you know the truth about the testing and the flaws, it was almost a cake walk actually. Pelley a cake walk to beat the system . Bosch to beat the system. Pelley to cheat . Bosch to cheat. Pelley but did you ever think about the integrity of the game . Bosch no, i never did. I didnt know i. I love the game of baseball. I. Pelley how can you love the game of baseball and do this to the game . Bosch because unfortunately, this is part of baseball. This is part of baseball. When you ask these guys to play 100plus games back to back, jump on a plane, get off a plane, all these road trips, their bodies break down. This has always been part of the game. Always been part of the game. And so their nutrition is its extremely important. Pelley but, come on, tony, were not talking about nutrition and Massage Therapy and all these sorts of things. Were talking about drugs that are banned, that are illegal in the sport. They knew what they were doing. You knew what you were doing, and it cuts to the heart of fair play. Bosch what is fair play . Let me ask you that question. How about. How about this . Follow me in thought. Here i am, im alex. And im at the plate, and i know that the guy thats throwing the 95mileperhour pitch is on sports performanceenhancing drugs. The guy whos going to catch the ball is on a program. The guy that i have to tag at third from a throw from centerfield when hes sliding, hes on it. Fair play . Fair play. If everybodys on it, wouldnt that be fair play . Pelley of course, not everybody is on it, and those who play clean are probably outraged right about now by that sweeping indictment bosch made in our interview. Baseball commissioner bud selig told us that the leagues unprecedented investigation was aimed at protecting those clean players. When we come back, tony bosch tells us he had reason to believe he would be killed if he gave up Alex Rodriguez. Cbs money watch update sponsored by glor good evening. Nascar says theyre closely watching the Police Investigation after tony stewart hit and killed a driver last night. Amazon has stopped preorders of some disney movies. And ge tomorrow will reportedly announce a groundbreaking new system to analyze data from trains, planes and more. Im jeff glor, cbs news. The ca illac summer collection is here. During the cadillac summers best event, lease this 2014 ats for around 299 a month and make this the summer of style. Energy energy, energy, energy. Its inside of all of us. Even gary here. 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B. , but, as we first reported in january, baseball commissioner bud selig told us this was a battle to save the game, and he was determined not to lose to rodriguez. Bud selig in my judgment, his actions were beyond comprehension. And im somebody whos now been in the game over 50 years. Pelley never seen anything like it . Selig i hadnt, no. Pelley and so you decided to make an example of him . Selig i wouldnt call an example. I think the penalty fit what i saw was the evidence. Pelley what was it about the Alex Rodriguez case that was an outlier for you . Selig scott, as i looked at everything on all the players, and then i got to Alex Rodriguez, and you put all the drug things on one side, and then all the things that he did to impede our investigation and really do things that i had never seen any other player do, i think 211 games was a very fair penalty. Pelley in the early days, after the clinic records were published, tony bosch found himself on the same side as rodriguez, denying all. But bosch told us rodriguez wanted insurance that his secrets would be kept. Bosch says that associates of rodriguez met him at this Apartment Building and asked him to sign an affidavit, which said he had never supplied performance enhancing drugs to rodriguez. This made bosch nervous, he wanted a lawyer, and he refused to sign. Then a couple of days later, he says, rodriguezs associates met him at this restaurant. Bosch one of his associates said, well, you should, i think you should leave town. Were going to get you a plane ticket to colombia. We want you to stay there until this blows over. Were going to pay you i forgot what the number was, 25,000 or 20,000 a month. Then when you come back, well you know well give you