And around the country similar protests turned violent. Last night protesters in baton rouge blocked police and thats when police enry came in and one one arrested for standing in the road after protesters were repeatedly ordered to get out and stay on the grass. In st. Paul, minnesota protests continued with some people violently targeted the police. At least five st. Paul Police Officers were injured when protesters hurled rocks, bottles, fire works and bricks. No officer was seriously hurt. ni an interstate was closed for five hours and in new york there were mostly peaceful protests. Back in baton rouge more protests are scheduled. One one booked and charged with simple obstruction of a highway. Were told he may get out of jail later today or early tomorrow morning. Thank you. Deray mckesson was scheduled to appear on the broadcast and live streamed his arrest through his phone on social media last night. co youre under arrest. Dont fight me. We turn now to the investigation and aftermath of the attack onnr dallas Police Officers. Mike rawlings joined us. Whats the latest weve learned about thenr shooter and his pla here. Well, we keep looking into his files and talking to his neighbors and family. Our objective is to see if theres anybody that aided, abettedni him, conspired with h. We dont have any new news in that regards. Thats probably going to take some days. There were others arrested immediately afterwards on the scene. What can you tell us about those arrests. You know, in dealing with the law of gun holding you can carry a rifle legally and when you have gunfire going on younr usually go with the person thats got a gun and ao a Police Officer grabbed some of those individuals, took them to Police Headquarters and worked it out and figured out they were not the shooters but that is one of the realni issues with the gun right issues we face that in the middle of a firefight its hard to pick out the good guys and bad guys. Did that complicate the issue at the moment . I wasnt there real time to see it go on but the common sense would tell you dontni know whe the gunfires coming from. There were individuals that ran across the gunfire. They were in the body armor and cammo gear with rifles over their shoulders so it took the eye off the ball for the moment. We got them out of the way and figured out what was happening and did our business. You were in on the decision to use a bomb in the end to kill the shooter. Tell us about that. Itnr was a difficult decisio because the safety of our Police Officers were in our mind. We had just lost so many and we had had those shot. So the chief had two options and he went with this one. I supported him completely because it was the safest way to approach it and we talked to this man a long time and he threatened to blowup Police Officers. We went to his home and saw there was bomb making equipment later so it was important we realized he may not be bluffing and we asked him if he wanted to come out safely or stay there and well take you down and he chose the latter. It was a model for which he community and Police Relations there and after the week what was dallas doing. Force complaint were at a twodecade low. What can they learn from dallas from the shooting . First of all training of our Police Officers is first and foremost. Im so proud of our police force they were one of the first to train in deescalation and how do you deal with individuals and protect yourself and protect them and get them dealt with in the right manner. Second Community Policing is important and the third, supporting Police Officers is important in this. Recruiting is down across the nation for Police Officers and we have to make this a noble profession and we cant let a very very small few impact this noble profession so doing all three of those and getting the right officers on board and training them correctly is what were all about. Finally mr. Mayor the Dallas Morning News has a front page editorial says now we face a test. Whats the test for dallas as you see it . Well, i think we are a laboratory for the united states. Can we in a moment of crisis when officers are fallen forgive. Can we disagree without d demonizing. Can we see a better narrative opposed to absurdity that theres ra way to rebuild the city. Thank you for being with us this morning. Thank you, john. Joining us now from new york city, Police CommissionerWilliam Bratton and secretary johnson. Secretary johnson, you said theres no link to a terrorist organization here but the shooting in dallas was by any definition terrorism and a hate crime wasnt it . Well, theres still an investigation being conducted by the Dallas Police department and by the fbi supported by lots of other resources in local government and the federal government. Its still relatively early. We do know from chief brown that this individual apparently told the Hostage Negotiator he wanted to kill white police especially white Police Officers. In fact i think thats almost a quote. This is obviously a terrible act. It appears to have been targeted at Police Officers, particularly white Police Officers and its a time to come together to heal and mourn but to remembernr tha the shooter is notnr reflectivef the Larger Movement to bring about change that was out in dallas to peacefully demonstrate and those who engage in enforcement force in the Law Enforcement community arentni reflective of the larger community. Its critical to remember an eye for an eye yields everybody blind. Its the time to heal and come together and time to mourn. Commissioner bratton describe for us the pressure that Police Officers are feeling with the heightened scrutiny of those who have nrmisbehaved as Police Officers and in the wake of the shooting. Itsco a time of great presse theres always pressure on american Police Officers. Its been going through profound changes in the last 20 year and constant improvement in training and use of force and continuing efforts in recent years to teach our officers deescalation techniques and trying to see the community and have the community see them. Policing is a shared responsibility. Its all about dialog and understanding each other and seeing each other and hearing each other. From the community. We dont bring them in from mars. They come from the communities they police and over the years with more diversity theres increasing numbers of African American and latino officers and thats a good thing because the Community Want to see that and thats part of the way we bridge the divide. A divide thats beenni closing d aco divide we hope over time especially in new york i can speak for our efforts the last several years to not only bridge the divide but close it. Im optimistic in the issue. As someone who had Police Officers killed in a similarnr incident did you see this coming . I will speak for myself we have had a relatively peaceful ne two years in new york and communities came together. Weve been engaging in dialog. Ive had close to 600 meetings with Community Leaders and activists andni weve had a relatively long period of stabilitynr in new york city. Weve increased the training of our personnel and increasing de escalation techniques and itsc been a time of healing. Did we see it coming, no but you plan for the worse and hope for the best dallas was beyond anybodys ability to speculate or even think about. The first time in American History an attack of that scale. We had that in new york in the 1970s the black Liberation Army basically killing several new york city Police Officers but Something Like dallas who could have ever thought Something Like that would occur here in the united states. Secretary johnson youve talked about the balance between Homeland Security and american freedoms. Where do you think that balance is on the Law Enforcement front between balancing the law and the freedoms of citizens. Thats an excellent question, john. The balance is best struck when you have effective Community Policing where the Law Enforcement, peace officer is regarded as aco friend in a lotf neighborhoods. Were not a policestate and the best way to strike that balance is when the public and Law Enforcement is working together at protection, at Community Peace and so i think thats the key and thats something that in these days we we need to dedicate ourselves towards. Well be back in a minute. Too one thing another. Only at t has the network, people, and partners to help companies be. Local global. Open secure. Because no one knows like at t. And were back with the head of the naacp Cornell Williams brooks. The words, context and balanced. President obama said things arent as bad as they were in the 1960s. Do you believe that . Many believe the glass is half full in despair and hope and we should note the culture is full of the capacity to effect change. We have thousands of young people in the streets of this country. Theyre in the streets of this country protesting and dem onnr demonstrating. Its an affirmation of our country and thats a good things. Racial relations have improved but not where they should be particularly when a young black man is 21 more times likely to lose his life and an unarmed African American man is seven times more likely to lose his at the hands of enforcement and we have the conviction we can be better still. Talking about the police. There are pictures captured in these horrendous videos and one is saying dont paint the other with the broad brush. Talk about the changes you think need to be made and respect people who are brave and take risks and serve their community. We have to be precise. In other words, we have to understand what fuels racial profiling as a country is African Americans are seen as a cloak of suspicious. White skin being a robe of protection or respectability. We have to get beyond pr presumptions and stereotypes. There are Police Officers stepping forward and supporting a reform in the ranks. We have to stand with them. In other words, those who honor their badges we need to support but we need to be clear its a moment in the country of urgency. You have 509 people who lost their lives at the hands of police this year. 990 last year. We have at least 24 people ahead in the grim calculus. We have to address this problem because were at a moment where we know what to do. The president issued his recommendation from his 21st Century Policing task force. The naacp released a report. We need the will to get it right. What three things need to change. At the federal level passing the racial profiling act to the Law Enforcement integrity act and civilian boards. We know what to do but at the end of the day to bring about the change we need we need to ensure every demonstrator is a voter and we show up en masse and analyst millions at the polls in november because we need reform at the state and municipal and federal level and call upon our president ial candidates to address it in their Party Platforms and in their campaigns. Cornell william brooks, thank you for welcome back us. Thank you. And well be right back in a moment. Safety doesnt come in a box. Its not a banner that goes on a wall. Its not something you do now and then. Or when its convenient. At bp, its training and retraining in stateoftheart simulators so were better prepared for any situation. Its giving offshore teams support from onshore experts, so we have extra sets of eyes on our wells. And its empowering anyone to stop a job if something doesnt seem right. So everyone comes home safely. Were working every day at bp, to improve our training, our technology, our culture. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. Joining us now is elijah ings whos direct was the scene of freddie gray. Lets start with this, what would you tell a young African American 18yearold man who asks what does my future look like . I would tell him hes going to have a lot of barriers to get to where he has to go and but he can make it. I would tell him to do everything in his power to get a good education but i would also tell him to be careful in whatever he does. Does that mean be careful in interactions with police . No doubt about it. And one of the sad things about what happened in minnesota is he was a man who was doing everything right, john. He said, look, ive got a gun. Im authorized to carry it and next thing you know hes dead. I think that what has happened is that a lot of people dont understand what its like for African American men and boys to know that at any moment youre going to be pulled over and that youre life could end and a lot of folks cant understand that. These videos are so powerful. Very powerful. And yet in a political sense you saw secretary of Homeland Security with commissioner bratton that he stands with the police. And the focus on improving policing has maybe gotten painted with too broad a brush with all police. When these incidents happen in dallas, minnesota, baton rouge people say we have to go to a corner and fight for good policing and want the respect of police in the African American community. They think youre against police but on the other hand they dont understand that theres pain when these things happen in the African American community and john theres also pain by and americans when police are murdered like they were in dallas and a lot of times people dont understand that. And all basically people are asking for is respect. You talk about disturbances. Kevin davis our Police Commissioner now requires new recruits to go out three and a half months once theyre on the force and all they do is go throughout the Community Policing and get an idea of who they are working with. We dont have time to turn against each other. We have to turn towards each other. Tell me about the aftermath of baltimore. It was such a central part of the conversation. Where do things stand now . Well, weve had now four trials. Were in the fourth one now and there was a hung jury and there were two nonguilty verdicts and three trials going on and two more. You know what, people saw justice being carried out and we did not have the loud protests. There were peaceful protests but small and people understood justice was happening and thats important to them. In less than 2 of the cases are charges ever filed and those are things people are concerned about. They see police doing things like they did in minneapolis, minnesota and then say there was a bad act but are there consequences . Thats what i wonder about in baltimore. You had the hung jury and two acquittals. Thats not a consequence for freddie gray who died after being in custody. They asked for justice and justice is rolling. You cannot guarantee results with justice. I think people i think one of the reasons people have not gotten as upset is because they believe justice is happening. President obama said in his press conference theres times when activists may have acted in rhetoric. What do you see with rhetoric in respect to the police . I think we have to be careful in what we say from our leaders to what people put on facebook. Because people do have a tendency to act on certain things and you have to be very careful. I think the rhetoric can get loud and people react to that. We have to make sure we understand that the Community Needs to police and the police need the community. Were all in this together. Thank you so much for doing this. Thank you. And well be right back. What do doctors from leading Cancer Centers in the country have in common . Many of them now call Cancer Treatment centers of america home. Expert medicine works here. Find out why at cancer center. Com. Cancer Treatment Centers of america. The fastest delivery guy in chicago. Meet maximum strength mylanta®. Like owen, it works fast. Unlike him, it makes heartburn go away. Strong and soothing. New mylanta®. Faster than heartburn. Mary buys a little lamb. One of millions of orders on this companys servers. 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