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More shifting winds at the White House today on whether Russia's President Putin is a friend a foe or something else word came that President Trump wants Putin to visit this fall even as one day summit sparked more questions White House correspondent young Michelle send or begins our coverage. For President Vladimir Putin a warm reception from Russian lawmakers today as he celebrated the healthy summit result and it's a fairly well if I might may finally the full formal meeting to happen which allowed me to talk directly to President Trump and it was successful generally mit useful arrangements. There's been no formal announcement of any deals the leaders may have made Putin said they worked out a range of agreements involving international security but today at an Aspen Institute form the u.s. Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats said he's not sure what was discussed Well you're right I don't know what happened in that meeting but that is the president's prerogative. He had asked me how that ought to. Be conducted I would have suggested a different way but that's not my role this morning President Trump tweeted saying the summit with Russia was a great success except with the real enemy of the people the fake news media he went on to say he looks forward to a 2nd meeting with Putin so that we can start implementing some of the many things discussed including cyber attacks Ukraine and Middle East peace among others. But the overall u.s. Commander for the Middle East Army General Joseph Otero said he has heard nothing about any changes regarding Syria where both American and Russian forces are involved he spoke to Pentagon reporters on a video link from his headquarters in Tampa we have received no no further direction and we've currently been operating under direct collaboration with the Russian military would need congressional approval there was more to date on the matter that's dogged President Trump Intel thinking Russian cyber hacking in the 2016 u.s. Election the New York Times reported that 2 weeks before his inauguration in January of 2017 he was shown highly classified evidence that Vladimir Putin personally ordered the campaign of cyber attacks and this information. Just 5 days later the then president elect held a news conference today he posted a clip from it but later on in that same news conference he dismissed the intelligence community's conclusion that Putin has been trying to help him win the election do you accept that part of the finding Well if if Newton likes Donald Trump I consider that an asset not a liability because we have a horrible relationship with Russia in Aspen Colorado the president's Homeland Security Secretary Kerry. Said today she's never seen evidence that Russia's election interference with aimed at securing a trump victory seen on the foreign influence side as they were attempting to intervene and cause chaos on both sides on Monday the president seemed to take at face value intelligence director coats quickly challenge that saying Russian interference did happen and it's continuing to happen today said he had had no choice I was just doing my job my thoughts there were that I believed I needed to correct the record for that obviously I wish he had made a different statement but I think that now that his. Clarified jest Yes you're. Mr Trump appeared to dismiss the notion that Russian interference is ongoing is Russia still targeting the u.s. The president. Made his way out no that's because the White House later said Mr Trump had been misunderstood all of this has lawmakers on both sides asking questions and seeking action Republican Senator Bob Corker chairs the Foreign Relations Committee feel sometimes that. The president inflates. Getting away. You know flattery and those kinds of things conflates that were the actual policies in a statement today Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announce he's directed to Senate committees to hold hearings on potentially strengthening u.s. Sanctions against Russia on the House side Democratic Whip Danny boy or a Maryland house for bipartisan legislation to increase funding for election system security and said counter Russian led cyber attacks the flashing red light calls us to action. Surely we can run both pandering to party and to act on behalf of our freedom and our security. The measure alternately failed Republicans voted against it saying there's already ample money available for those purposes. And in the is here with me now along with our foreign affairs correspondent Nick Scheffer and hello to both of you so you mean as you've just been reporting we've seen over the last few days a number of statements the White House has made about the Russian threat about what the Russians did in 2016 then they've turned around and made a clarifying statement or they reversed themselves how does the way the White House is handling this because you've been looking into it compare with the way the rest of the administration has been looking at all this well President inability to definitively say that Vladimir Putin ordered Russian nationals to interfere in the 2016 election has put him at odds often with the u.s. Intelligence community today and ask the director of National Intelligence Dan Coats Well divisibility surprised when N.B.C.'s entry Mitchell told him about Putin's upcoming. The White House has announced on Twitter that Lattimer is coming to the White House in the fall. So that we can. Light a reputed. Yeah. Ok. That's going to be special. Wow I mean that really sums up where the national intelligence director and the president stand right now he's he was completely surprised and he's not alone that the intelligence community is looking at what President Trump is doing and saying and they're really questioning kind of why the president is saying all these things and they don't know what he said to Vladimir Putin in that one on one meeting that went on for 2 hours and Dan Coats isn't the only person in the trumpet ministration that's pushing back on the way that Trump is talking about Russia the director of the f.b.i. Christopher Ray said that Russia is the most aggressive country that's attacked that's trying to attack the u.s. Right now that's really really important and I was talking to sources today there was a former Department of Homeland Security official who was very senior in of passage ministrations he said that the the Homeland Security's the secretary of Homeland Security today saying that she didn't know if Russia was trying to help Donald Trump shows that there are that these administration officials are under a lot of pressure to pick between Donald Trump or the truth so that's really really important in the Senate today voted unanimously to oppose Russia talking to u.s. Officials are u.s. Citizens and basically saying that the you that Russia should not be able to question American citizens so they are over also coming out and saying we are not with the president on this one so Nick you talk to folks in the intelligence community there is some sort of division it appears between what the president's doing and what they know I think it's important to note that they will continue doing their job despite that division but that there is worry concern even do. Comfort with some of what the president is saying and some of the policies that he's exhibiting toward Russia toward Lattimer Putin we have to remember that since January 2017 the intelligence community has fingered Putin personally and said that President Putin ordered the hacking and the dissent from ation campaign in the United States the president was given that information as we learned today from the New York Times with specific intelligence that there was human intelligence about President Vladimir Putin's order and there is just bafflement frankly among some intelligence officials as to why the president will not back them up on that and at least publicly they just don't know why the president isn't backing them up 2 of the things you have me show this whole the White House yesterday saying that the president was considering seriously this idea of swapping interrogation between the u.s. Former u.s. Ambassador to Moscow among others with the u.s. Being able to interview these intelligence folks in Russia who have been indicted by by by the United States so what and then today they said no it's not being considered at all the president doesn't like the idea what's going on there well the White House and the State Department had vastly different answers when it came to the question of whether or not flattery Putin could get his way and NASA and Russian national fishes could sit down and interview American citizens that they see as criminals the u.s. Intelligence community has found that these Americans are not criminals they include the former ambassador to Russia the former u.s. Ambassador Russia then there's this idea that Putin wanted to kind of float that out there and that it was pretty much seen as absurd the State Department came out very forcefully yesterday and said it's absurd to even ask this question where Syria standards kind of page and said well we'll think about it and then it took until today which is a full 24 hours later for the White House to come out to be on the same page as the State Department so again it comes back to that idea that I've been talking to sources about where they say they don't know why the president is doing the things that. He's doing and people are very worried that he made me a deals with President Putin that in that 2 hour meeting they're not sure if maybe he gave them some sort of signal that there might be an insurance there I'm so they're very very much worried and don't know what to think and just very quickly Nick on that point it isn't clear what was said in that meeting how much of a problem it's a big problem because the Russians have a well oiled diplomatic machine and they will put forward their ambassador to the u.s. Who briefed reporters yesterday they put forward President Putin today and they will fill the void where there is no statement from Secretary Pompei o about what was decided there's no statement from national security advisor John Bolton the defense secretary John Maddox was even at the cabinet meeting yesterday whereas the Russians are absolutely organized and so they will fill that void and try and shape the the legacy of this summit and certainly the day to day actions of both countries and in the near future Nick Schifrin we shall send or thank you both . And in the day's other news President Trump criticized the federal reserve for raising interest rates he was interviewed on c n b c and suggested the current policy of gradual rate increases is not helping the economy. I'm not thrilled because you know we go up and every time you go up they want to raise rates again and I don't really I am not happy about it but at the same time I'm letting them do what they feel is best you know I'm just saying the same thing that I would have said as a private citizen so somebody would say Oh maybe you should say that as a president I couldn't care less what they say because my views haven't changed later a White House spokeswoman said the president respects the independence of the Fed chairman Jerome Powell has said he does not expect to face White House pressure he was Mr Trump's choice for the job in Syria today more than 7000 civilians were evacuated from pro-government villages in the north they had been under rebel siege for 3 years their release was in exchange for militants held in government jails buses took the villagers to government held territory in Aleppo it is one of the largest population transfers in the 7 year long conflict Meanwhile in southwest Syria there is word that rebels have agreed to leave the frontier along the Israeli occupied Golan Heights back in this country Kathy Cranage are faced questions about whether she's qualified to lead the Federal Consumer Financial Protection Bureau She now works at the Office of Management and Budget Democrats at her Senate confirmation hearing criticize her lack of experience in banking and financial services Cranage or said she has other qualifications 20 years of government service working for commonsense solutions across the aisle working with members on both sides to support the best outcome for the American people and that is certainly what I pledge at a separate confirmation hearing Democrats oppose Charles redig to be the commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service they said it is a protest against a new i.r.s. Policy that lets business labor and other groups accept donations without disclosing the donors identities the Senate today abandoned. To vote on the nomination of Ryan bound to be a federal appeals judge he granted opposition over his writings as a college student more than 20 years ago criticizing multiculturalism it is the 1st time one of the president's appeals court nominees has failed to advance they spoke c.e.o. Mark Zuckerberg is doing damage control after saying the social media platform will not automatically remove posts denying the Holocaust in an interview he had said he does not think Holocaust deniers intentionally get the facts wrong later he said his intent was not to defend such speech on Wall Street trade worries and the president's criticism of the Federal Reserve helped push stocks lower the Dow Jones Industrial Average shed more than $134.00 points to close at $25064.00 The Nasdaq fell $29.00 and the s. And p. $500.00 slipped 11 the annual s.p. Sports award took a solemn turn last night honoring more than 140 victims of sexual abuse by a sports doctor many were young girls when they were assaulted by Larry Nasser at USA gymnastics and Michigan State University last night they received jointly the Arthur Ashe award for courage but a limping gold medal winning gymnast alley Raisman said they never should have been there. All we needed was one adult to have the integrity to stand between us and Larry Nasser just one. Had to listen to believe and after. The people standing before you on this stage would have never met him. Nasser is now serving prison terms totaling more than 175 years and the one time Air Force d.j. Who inspired the movie Good Morning Vietnam has died Adrian Cronauer passed away at a nursing home in Virginia Cronauer had an armed forces radio show in Vietnam in 1965 and 66 Robin Williams played him in the 1987 film that was loosely based on his story Adrian Cronauer was 79 years old so to come on the news our views on the Russia controversy from former Ambassador Michael McFaul informing acting and former acting CIA director John McLaughlin Israel's controversial law the clearing of the Holy Land of the Jewish people the plan to reunite the remaining separated migrant families and much more. We return now to what President Trump called an incredible offer on Monday when President Putin offered to let the Us question 12 Russians indicted for interfering in the 26 election in exchange for a few u.s. Officials being interrogated by Moscow after 1st saying they were considering this the White House today said they reject the idea just one of us swirl of events around President Trump and Russia in the past few days reaction and analysis I'm joined by former Ambassador Michael McFaul who served as envoy to Moscow from 2. At age 12 to 2014 he was named as one of the American officials wanted by Russia in that potential exchange He's currently at Stanford University and John McLaughlin He served as acting director of the CIA during the George w. Bush administration and is the agency's deputy director he's now at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and gentlemen welcome to both of you let me start with you Ambassador McFaul do you feel you've gotten a reprieve yesterday the White House was saying they were seriously considering this proposal by Vladimir Putin today they said they're not well Judy yes and no I mean one of the people named I guess it's it's nice that they finally have said the obvious but I want to point out that statement was not a definitive statement by the White House and this is their 3rd try they said that the Putin was sincere in this proposal and by saying that they're suggesting that the Americans on that list including me were somehow criminals that needed to be investigated and the fact that the president after 3 different times twice from the podium in the White House and most amazingly in the hell think he could not just say this is outrageous this is crazy absolutely no uncertain terms we're not going to do this and we're not going to accept the false equivalency between a genuine indictment that Mr Moeller released with lots of evidence that these 11 intelligence officers 12 intelligence officers military intelligence officers violated our sovereignty with this cock and made me crazy story that Vladimir Putin spun in that one on one meeting so it is better than the 1st time but it still is not as good as I would like it John McLoughlin was that ever a feasible idea have you ever seen anything like it happen. No that was never a feasible duty and it's alarming that it would even have been considered for a 2nd or that it took 24 hours to get this partial basters right it's really a partial clarification and I think in that statement the last one I saw they also said something to the effect that not only was prudent sincere but perhaps he will actually send these 12 people to the United States to be a question that itself is absurd Putin is never going to do that and just based on my own dealings with Russians over the years. I think it shows a degree of naivete on the part of the president and anyone else who permitted this idea to get into the public realm so no it was never feasible idea and it should have been rejected instantly out of hand and asked in a McFaul we now have the news today that President Trump is asking John Bolton his national security adviser to invite President Putin to Washington this fall what do you make of that given the events of Helsinki. I was quite surprised by that announcement this summit I think was a complete disaster it advance no u.s. National security interests and that's what you're supposed to do in diplomacy you're not supposed to lavish praise on your interlocutor or especially an adversary like Lattimer Putin and maybe there were some secret deals as you were alluding to earlier in your show The only thing we know concretely that was discussed was this crazy swap idea but if you got it bad so bad that time why do you want to tee up another meeting that I think just will not advance America's interest but actually go in reverse and John McLaughlin What about that and you know the White House argument well these are the name of the world's 2 most powerful nations with nuclear weapons pointed. Each other and their leaders need to at least be on a talking basis what about that well I think we can all agree that there is merit in seeking a more constructive relationship with Russia but they're going about it in entirely

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