It is, therefore, with deep sadness and regret that i must inform you that, according to this new data, flight mh370 ended in the indian ocean. Charlie for assessment in the ongoing developments of the missing airliner, joined by consultant Steve Ganyard and bob orr. First, you have to find a piece of debris and, working backwards over time, scientists will tell us thousand currents and winds moved debris around and will try to find literally an x on a map and well put robotic vehicles underwater, perhaps, sonar, pinger locators will be towed through the zone and if we get lucky may find the primary wreckage field but thats far from certain and people need to settle in here, charley, while this is big news, we are not close to knowing what happened to the airplane. Charlie the announcement of the 2014 pritzker architecture prize recipient. Jointed by tom pritzker, chairman of the Pritzker Organization and the architect who received the award, shigeru ban. The purpose of the prize is to honor a living architect who has made a contribution, a significant contribution to humanity and has done it through the built environment and through the art of architecture. The difference between permanent or temporary living is not about material. Even the church i made in paper after the kobe earthquake, this became a Permanent Center because the people loved it. Even the Building Made in concrete, if the people tried to make a commercial building, its always temporary. Other people buy the building to put in the new one. So even the building in concrete can be temporary. Charlie a missing air lynner and the new pritzker architecture prize recipient when we continue. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Charlie we begin tonight with the ongoing search for the missing malaysian airliner flight mh370 with 239 people on board disapeemped march 8. Today plainings prim malaysian r najib razak said it went down in tinneddian ocean. Its been concluded flight mh370 flew along the southern corridor and that it is last position was the middle of the indian ocean west of perth. This is a remote location far from any possible landing sites. Charlie the conclusion was the result of new analysis from satellite data. Debris was spotted in the area 1500 miles off the southwest coast of australia. Joining us now from washington, colonel Steve Ganyard. He is president of the Advisory Firm avisant international also a marine corps pilot, served in the state Department Political military affairs and from the cbs Washington Bureau bob orr, Homeland Security correspondent for cbs news. Welcome. Thank you, charlie. Charlie the first question, what is the key piece of evidence that led the Prime Minister to make the announcement he made . I think what inmarsat, which is the company that has the satellite constellation that was getting the pings, did additional forensics, they got boeing to help out and did a peer review study of are we sure it went on this southern route. As you remember, we talked about a northern and southern rock, throute,and they said we are aby sure its on the southern air c anarcandarcand where the pings t went nowhere but the water. It was done to say for the relatives theres nobody who would survive. Charlie whats next, bob . Whats next is we have to find recognizable, identifiable piece of debris. I mean, this is an important marker today for the malaysians to come out and tell the families, youve heard crazy rumors, all kind of speculation, all kinds of People Holding on to hopes but as steve said the airplane has crashed somewhere in the deep south indian ocean, but we dont know where and until we find a piece of debris that we say definitely came from flight mh370, we wont know where to start looking for the big wreckage field and until you find that we wont get the key clues we expect to get some day from cockpit to voice recorder and data recorder. Charlie it do we find the wreckage fields . First yao find a piece of debris and working backwards the scientists will tell us how the currents and winds moved debris around well try to find literally an x on a map, and at that point well put robotic vehicles, perhaps, under water sonar, pinger locators will be towed through the zone, and if we get lucky, we may find the primary wreckage field, but thats far from certain, and people need to settle into, charlie, and while this is a big piece of news today, we are nowhere close finding out what happened to the airplane. Charlie steve, you and i talked about this before, do we have any more idea today whether this is a pilant act . There are a lot of defensive theories. None stand up to key questions, so nobody has the answer. What we have been given today, all we really know is the airplane went south, its in the middle of one of the most remote parts of the world and it will be really tough to find out answers about why its at the bottom of the ocean. Charlie is it because we heard the pings, then didnt hear them and we were able to locate where they were by data points is this. Talking to boeing engineers, they knew how much fuel was on the airplane. The last ping was 7 1 2 hours. There may have been 30 minutes left of gas on board. But if you have 30 minutes of gas and 1,000 miles from land, you wont go anywhere but in the water but will allow them to narrow the corridor where the airplane was flying, where the lastknown point will be, and this will hopefully help locate where the imact was on the ocean because, as bob said, its the wreckage on the bottom of the ocean that contains the black boxes that will answer most of the mysteries. Most of the mysteries are on the bottom of the ocean. We wont find the answers just looking at the debris thats hundreds of miles away potentially from where the wreckage on the bottom of the ocean is. Charlie how important are the next two weeks which is what i understand the time will be before the signal from the black box speaks . The pinger batteries will run out. They can run out to 40 days. The manufacturer says theyre guaranteed to 30 but may run out to 40. We need to remember one thing. In the air france crash, theres a 90 chance both the pingers will work. Neither pinger worked. The reason the air france mishap investigation went on so long is they didnt hear the pingers. Right after they went over the area, it wasnt there, they said, oh, my gosh, were in the wrong place and so they broadened the search and it got so broad they got twisted up in their own research and didnt go back to the basics and it wasnt until they went back and used this Statistical Analysis to get back to the basics that they found the air france miles from where they predicted. Charlie what questions are you asking bob today . One of the things i want to know is whether theyre making progress on the police side of the investigation. Without the crash wreckage and boxes there is only so much you can do on the airplane accident side of the investigation. The f. B. I. Is still looking at the computers taken from the pilots homes, the flight similar later they took from the captains home. The inintel agencies have continued to go through the flight manifest and checking names against known databases and so far we have big zeros. We dont know anybody on the passenger list that matches up against any criminal database or terror database. So i want to know where they making any progress on the police side of things and, so far, i have to tell you nothing is jumping out at investigators as highly suspicious. They havent found anything to date im aware of that would point to preplanning or motive, so again were back to the possibility that we miff an airplane accident here, a deliberate act here. Its possible there could still be terrorism involved. Frankly, most sources will tell you thats falling down the list. We still dont know. Into the third week, charlie, we dont have a great deal of answers than right at the beginning. Charlie what would be an airplane accident that would cause a plane to do what happened to this plane . Its very hard to find a scenario, and i think steve would tell you this as well, thats an accident chain that weve identified that would fit all of the facts. For example, theres been speculation of perhaps a fire on board, perhaps it was a fire that eventually incapacitated the pilots, but its hard to reconcile. If the fire is bad enough, for example, it will take out your instrumentation and eventually incapacitate the pilots, how bad is it that the plane still flies for hours. If its a slow moving fire that works through cockpit and takes down systems one after the other, if thats the case, why didnt the pilots have time to tell someone about their problems. There was a swiss air accident years ago with a fire in the wiring and entertainment system. This was eventually out of control and the planes crashed but the pilots had time to tell us. So you can go through the accident scenarios and you can add something we havent conceived and you can add a fact or two that knocks a hole in that theory. Charlie bob and steve, do you agree with the idea . I do. Remember, charlie, we talked about last week about the cabin depressurizing some way. Charlie right. I talked to a friend of mine, former squad major a captain on a u. S. Major airline and he said the decompression, he said, no way, its just highly unlikely. I said what about if one of the pilots did it could bit done without somebody noticing . He said no way. He said, it sets off alarm bells in the cockpit, bells, alarms, whistles, lights, so it couldnt have been done when somebody wasnt looking. So as bob said, i dont see the viable scenario that doesnt have a what if that really kills any scenario based just on a manufacturing or an aircraft malfunction. Charlie so i hear you both saying every scenario has questions about it. Every one. I think they do. Charlie, i think thats right. There are questions about every one, but i would just tell you, after the 9 11 commission report, the investigator there came out and said what we had there in large part was a failure of imagination. I ask myself here not necessarily on terror but any of the other theories, are we failing to imagine the kinds of failures that might happen in sequence . And thats a possibility. I would only say, when twa800 went down in july 1996, most people thought it was a bomb, some thought a missile, but nobody at the outset could come up with a theory that it was a spark on a fuel indicator wire that went to a largely empty fuel tank that caused the engine to ex complet explode. That wasnt on the realm of pockets at the outset. We keep going back to air france because there were so many parallels. There was nobody that would imagine the outcome two years later when we found the black box of what happened where the copilot put the aircraft into stall and held it all the way in a stall to impact. Nobody would have believed it or suggested it and not until we found the black boxes that that became a truth. Snoopy lot error could be a scenario here . Could be. Charlie are you guys comfortable with the information, is the u. S. Government comfortable with the information its getting from the malaysian government . I certainly have not been. I have been quite critical of the malaysian government. I think there have been contradictions all week, things that have been withheld. We have known things theyve done things when they have not admitted it. They changed their story back and forth. The good thing we discussed, we have the australians involved, the ntsb. The pros involved, and well get where we need to go. Its unfortunate there are delays that could have been much farther along at this point. Charlie bob . I agree. The information has been all over the place and its very hard to know. The facts we know today are the facts today and tomorrow we find out theyre not the case. Steve hit it on the head. We have experts from Great Britain and this country who know how to read radar and extrapolate data, theyve looked at this and were finally getting concrete answers. This is the third week and only began in earnest about a week ago and that said we dont still have the debris we need. Im still hopeful well find something, and when we get the debris we need, if the pros are involved, i think theres a chance we can find the brig wreckage field but this has not been handled well from the beginning. Charlie bob orr, cbs news, thank you so much. Steve ganyard thank you again for joining us. Thank you. Charlie tom pritzker is here, chairman and c. E. O. Of the Pritzker Organization and president and chairman of the hi yacht foundation which sponsored the pritzker architecture prize, the award is given annually to a living architect whose work demonstrates a combination of talent, vision and commitment. It is also known as the nobel prize of architecture. Today tom pritzker announced the 2014 laureate is shigeru ban. They praised shigeru ban for responsibility and action to create architectural quality to serve societys needs. I am pleased to have tom pritzker at this table for the first time. Welcome. Great to see you. Thank you very much. Charlie we have known each other a long time and i have been pleased to be a part of this in terms of interviewing the annual recipient. How did did this happen that the pritzker family became associated with this remarkable idea of recognizing greatness in architecture . So what happened was a guy showed up at dads office cold charlie jay pritzker of chicago. Yes. A guy showed up, said i have an idea. He had no job. His idea was if he could talk us into doing a prize in the world of architecture, then he would have a job as executive secretary. And sure enough he talked us into it. Charlie great. Dad bought the idea and thats how it was born. Charlie and who selects the recipient . So we have a strict separation of church and state. We have a jury, and that jury avows over time, they make the selection, they go into a room on a monday morning and hopefully we get white smoke by the afternoon and they select the jury, the recipient. Charlie and these are mainly people with a discerning eye about architecture . Theyre people from different walks of life but all have a passion for architecture. So over the years, carter brown was the chairman for years and years. He was director of the national gallery. Ada Louise Huxtable was on the jury forever, a wonder person. And the current jury is terrific. Peter pulumbo is the chairman. We have people from chile, india, across the board. We have an industrialist from india on the injury. So its a terrific, diverse jury. Charlie what do they look for . The purpose of the prize is to honor a living architect who has made a contribution, a significant contribution to humanity and has done it through built environment and through the art of architecture, and thats sort of the prison through which they look for their next honoree. Charlie i can speak to this point. You and i are not steeped in the ideas of architecture, but we love architecture, coming to it as both connoisseurs and people who appreciate the skill of those who are gifted enough to understand the environment we live in and how to make functional and buildings that are both residential and institutional and commercial that served a remarkable purpose. Its why the people come to those places and get Something Special that happens to them because they inhabit it. Thats what i like about architecture, its a thing that has a continuance and permanence that a lot of things dont. It sets the tone for our environment, it sets the tone for what we do every day. Erie person on earth every person on earth is a consumer of architecture. Charlie you said about shigeru ban, his commitment to humanitarian causes to Disaster Relief work is an example for all. Innovation is not limited by building type and compassion is not limited by budget. He has made ourworld a better place. Tell me what it is about that aspect of him that was attractive to you. So from my point of view, for years, architecture has responded with iconic buildings, responded to the need in the urban environment, responded to a certain segment of humanity. Its a large segment, basically the urban segment. What hes done is hes responding to a segment, probably the media segment of society, and that is disaster victims. Put yourself in their shoes. Youve got a disaster, youve lost everything. What shigeru ban can do is create hope. He not only can create a building that can cover your head and provide you with housing, but creating hope in that moment of despair, that to me is a great, great accomplishment and a great contribution. Hes also known for the use of materials that he uses. Charlie he recycles, he builds with materials that could be recycled, but i think he looks at the world differently. Maybe a little bit like roushe roushenburg did. He looks at something and while others look and say its garbage, he says, how can i use that . Whats its utility . Charlie these are examples of architecture that can make an extraordinary difference. You and i have both seen them. The hi yacht regency in atlanta. Build by a developer, designed by john portman, we acquired it just before it opened. What happened wit was fascinating. It changed the mood i think it changed the chemistry of the brain of our guests and our employees. Everybody walked around with a smile, and there was more interaction, and what we learned from that was architecture can change the experience. And, so, we began at h hyatt to focus on the experience instead of just the functionality of the hotel. Charlie and bilbow, the great genius. My wife and i took our kids to bill bough when they were teens. They werent thrilled to go to another museum. I as a parent got what every other parent got. They looked it, eyes lit up, they ran to the building and touched it and charlie how old were they . Early teens, i want to say. Charlie okay. They touched it, looked, said, is this okay . We said a, yeah. They ran up and down the building, running their hand along the titanium. And charlie, it changed their chemistry, mood, attitude. It really was a fantastic experience for me to see what it did to these kids. Charlie and millennium park. Millennium park, my mom actually made the difference. Charlie right. She insisted we have frank gehry do the pavilion and it created a soul in chicago. It created something everybodys proud of. Its a Gathering Place and it changed the spirit of the city. Charlie changed the spirit ofo the city. Yeah. Charlie a city which has eforms architecture and enormously attractive museums. Architecture came early. Charlie frank lloyd wright. Frank lloyd wright at the beginning a