She evaded various things and i dont think the story will go away. Rose speaking of politics, we continue with kevin spacey who play president of Frances Underwood in the hit reis house of cards. My job is to serve the writing. Well do a table read about two weeks before we shoot the particular episode and in the two weeks before we start, dollar lot of questions that came out of the table read, a lot of rewrites will happen then you live with something for a while and you learn it. I like to learn things just enough that i still have to reach for it when the camera is rolling. The magic as jack lemmon used to say magic time. Rose what would he say . Every time before a take, rolling camera and then jack lemmon under his breath would say, magic time. Thats what you want to happen, magic when the camera is rolling. Rose Mark Halperin, John Heilemann and kevin spacey when we continue. Funding for charlie rose is provided by the following. Rose additional funding provided by and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Rose we begin this evening with Hillary Clintons press conference. The former secretary of state addressed a controversy over her use of a personal email account while in office instead of the government email system. When i got to work as sgt. Of state, i as secretary of state, i opted for convenience to use my personal email account which was allowed by the state department because i thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails instead of two. Looking back, it would have been better if i had simply used a second email account and carried a second phone, but, at the time, this didnt seem like an issue. We went through a thorough process to identify all of my workrelated emails and deliver them to the state department. At the end, i chose not to keep my private, personal emails. Emails about planning chelseas wedding or my mothers funeral arrangements, condolence notes to friends, as well as yoga routines, Family Vacations the other things you typically find in inboxes. No one wants their personal emails made public and i think most people understand that and respect that privacy. Rose the controversy over whether she purposely used her private email to evade request of federal records is expected to continue. Secretary clinton is widely seen as the likely president ial nominee of the Democratic Party in 2016. Today marks the first time she answered political questions since h her 2008 president ial campaign. Joining me now are Mark Halperin and John Heilemann of bloomberg politics. Theyre host of the show with all due respect. I am pleased to have them here. Welcome. Thank you, charlie. Rose welcome back. Always happy to be at this table. Rose happy to have you here. John, tell me whats your assessment of the press conference . Well, i think there was ton positive side, she was better than she was in her book tour in a lot of ways, in a much more hostile environment. She face add large scrum of reporters, many foreign journalists who dont normally cover politics took a fair amount of questions, talked about this being a brief press conference but she answered about ten questions, went on for about 20 minutes or so. She was at times quite poised, but i think she did not answer many of the central questions to a lot of peoples satisfaction. There were questions she chose not to answer that were asked she evaded various things and i dont think the story was going to go away. There are two things i think are central. There are many issues but two central. One is i think if youre inclined to believe her its perfectly reasonable the reason she said she set up a personal account and didnt use the government email, it was easier and she said today perhaps she should have done it another way in retrospect but it seems at minimum she might have been cavalier about document requests because afterwards she put out a document about saying she was meticulous. Rose plans she was . Perhaps she was. She said if she email that wasnt on the government system in some cases she would forward them to someone in the government so they would be captured on forward request or a subpoena. Not clear who she did it 100 of the time. On the front end, she didnt answer the question did she consult the state department about the security of her server, she wouldnt address that. On the back end she said she would not let independent authority or figure look at the server and see did she adequately take off emails and send them to the government. I think that that question rose she will not do that . She will not. She said in the video my private emails should be private. No ones advocating private emails should be made public. Some are advocating an independent person should look at the email and decide. What she said was strange to my ears and johns is that she deleted many many personal emails from this account and perhaps theyre gone forever. Its strange someone will delete emails about her daughters wedding. The biggest problem right is that we now, according to their accounting she sent about 30,000 or so emails that she regards she, as the only arbiter of this not by anyone elses arbitration, did she regard it as work related and gave them to the state department. 31,000 emails she deemed to be personal emails. No one has seen them and shes say fog one ever will see the emails and that she also suggests she deleted many if not all of them. So one of the headlines that will come out for people certainly on the right and some in the center and some on the Good Government side of the left will be Hillary Clinton destroyed tens of thousands of emails and all she is saying to us is trust me that they are all innocuous. That is basically her posture. Rose somebody would go to anybody who might be a president ial candidate and say we think we owing to see all your emails. None of them beside them were secretary of state. Rose the point is shes seeing what you cant see is the personal stuff. If shed had a separate account and had divided it up, you would still see the government stuff in the email that went to the government and the personal stuff and she could still say you dont have any right to see that, correct. I believe under the law thats the case. The circumstances that have arisen is she got into office and as mark said she made an argument about convenience. That still strikes some people as not a plausible argument given that many people in politics carry two devices, why couldnt she get a personal and a state Department Email on one device, a lot of questions are raised about that. But to go and set up a separate server at home and have a bunch of emails spsz she will not allow to be audit she claims there were no security breaches, no hacks and all was secure, but that cant be proven because she wont let anybody look at the server or let anyone look alt the emails. For those who want to be doubters, there is a lot of reason to have doubt. She did not resolve all the skepticism for people who have doubts. Rose will this go away and you will be back to the questions of her political ambition and career and what she offers in the 2016 version of her desire to be president . I think republicans will continue to hammer on it. The head of the Committee Said today he would have her testify not just about benghazi but her email practices. I think her Performance Today is enough to have democrats come back into her corner and i think if there are no new rev layings there is not some big thing. Before today i did think it was a big thing. I think based on her performance and answers this will largely go away if there are no more new revelations ivment she will almost certainly be the democratickic nominee. There have been questions about the donors to the family foundation. Rose where is that. Mitchell asked her questions about that today and she answered in a complete unsatisfactory way. She asked about how she could answer that. She basically said im proud of what our foundation did and lets move on to the next question. Was totally nonresponsive to my ear. There are a lot of stories out there. I think again she will almost certainly be the democratic nominee unless Something Else happens, but theres a poll out today in the new wreath jownl nbc poll which suggests now the country people are more attracted to a notion of a candidate of change than they were in 2008 when the whole race was about who was going to be the candidate of change. It is more intense right now than it was in 2008. That is what the poll suggests. All im saying is i agree that none of the specific things, but to the extent that the point you made, charlie and the point mark made is it reminds people of the things they dont like about the clintons. Many people remember the 90s as prosperity and bill clinton as a loveable rogue but theyre not 100 sold. The swing voters, right. This kind of thing reminds people of the old clintons and that is not what change looks like to people in the middle of the electorate. Rose someone said today ive had all the drama i need. More coming. Reporter from where . A thousand different directions. Well go back to parts of whitewater. The billing records. , the cattle futures the rose law firm. Its all going to come back. The the upside of her not having an opponent is she can raise and spend all the money worrying about a general elections and doesnt have to worry about being beaten if she doesnt have a serious opponent. Eth all on her. They will be able to trot this stuff out many newspapers and Television Networks and magazines, they have investigative reporting budgets 16 republicans to look at one democrat and there will be a lot more investigatings. You can think of all the scandals, cattle futures, all that 90s agita and you can say, bill clinton survived it in the 90s, he was a very popular postsenator and president. Another part, you can say back in 2008, there was a large part of the Democratic Party on the other side of the country that sighed at the notion of going back to the stuff from the 90s, all the clinton wars, right . Will this not a psyching overhang for her that people were reminded that man, there was impeachment and all of that. If this stretches out and republicans with benghazi and more subpoenas and this and that, what is the psychic toll this takes on the electorate in terms of her prospects . Its not good. Another thing about today, her First Political press Conference Since 2008, i thought strong performances under those circumstances, but if it is true we normally elect the most likable person, today she was practiced careful evaded somewhat deftly burks thats not her at her most likable. I think she was good enough today to be elected if the republicans nominate someone not particularly likable. But she was not her likable self. Rose who is the most likable candidate in both parties who might be considering already theyre given signals that theyre running . Whos the most likability . To some extent, its a matter of taste. I dont think theres anybody like bush 43 or bill clinton in their periods or barack obama who i think were clearly very likable figures. I think theres lots of likable republicans but i dont think theres any cheerleader in that respect. Rose in an interview today with dan pfeiffer about leaving the white house he said it will be interesting to see if she can put together the coalition that won for obama in 2008 and 2012 which he did not have in 2014 or 2010. In a president ial year, Young Millennials nonwhite voters and single s n she has a chance if shes a democratic nominee to do better than president obama with working class voters and males. She was stronger than barack obama. If you think she can do gays, lesbians, Union Households africanamericans, better with hispanics men married couples rose she could be president , if thats all true. Potentially, and depending on how much buoyancy and who the republicans nominate, she may not have the turnout problem some may have on the coalition descendents. She comes into any democrat nominee and especially one who will, whatever all these controversies and flaps unfold into, she comes in with an extraordinarily enthusiastic base of women in the Democratic Party who will see her as the historic candidate, rally behind her under any circumstances and if you combine that with the inherent demographic advantages and the electoral advantages any president ial nominee has now, its hard not to argue she at least has a 50 50 shot if not a slight favorite in the race. But the thing thats the drag on her, i will say again, you know, i think the sense that she is the past and the sense that people are weary and dont necessarily want to go back to the things they remember that were bad about the clinton years is going to be a persistent problem in the same way the similar kinds of atmospheric stuff will be the biggest challenge for jeb bush in a different way. Rose hows he doing . Eally well now with elites and donors. Rose but theyre outnumbered. But as mark will tell you and we both will tell you, at this point in the race, in the invisible primary, doing well with elites elected officials with attorneys all that stuff hes doing incredibly well with. He has real problems with elements of the Republican Base but doing well at the things hes trying to do well at. I saw him in iowa last week and he was seen in las vegas, people underrate his people skills. Rose back in a moment, kevin spacey is here, think francis underwood. Rose kevin spacey is here, an oscarwinning actor and leading face of house of cards, netflix groundbreaking Political Drama stars as francis underwood, a southern congressman who murdered his way into the mightest office in government. President obama has said he is a guy who is getting a lot of stuff done. All 13 episodes of house of cards third season were released on netflix last month. Here is a look. You want to know what takes real courage . Holding the ball together when the stakes are this high. Rose am pleased to have kevin spacey back at this table. Welcome, sir. Thank you for having me. Rose how is everything . Very well. Im on stage as we speak doing my last production as an actor as im still artistic director. Rose youre giving that up too arent you . Giving that up, essentially august is when matthew who did matilda on broadway and direct me and jeff in the plow as well as great productions of the norman conquest, hes taking over my role. Rose well come back to that. But now Frank Underwood, hes in power. About governance in part. Its very interesting. Some people said well, now that hes president , he did what he set out to do. You say, wait a minute, getting to the presidency even though he did it in elusive ways for innersubstance by not running for office, thats one particular challenge getting to the white house, i actually think thats one thing. But then actually governing what you want to accomplish as president has been a whole other its just getting started. One of the things i think weve had an interesting time exploring this third season is you take two characters like Francis Sinclair who have successfully managed to do very well in the shadows and dark alice, what happens to them is when theyre suddenly in the hot, white spotlight of the presidency, there are no more shadows. So its very interesting to see whats going to happen, a, to what they try to achieve and, b, as a couple. Rose and the power. Yeah. Rose tell me how you see him. A patriot . I think hes rose servant of the country . I think he believes that his job in politics is to get things done and that rose the ends justifies the means . Yes. If you set aside the murdering just for a moment rose just for a moment. laughter just for a second, you know look one of the things i loved about the lincoln film was that they were willing to show lincoln as a politician. He was willing to do what he had to do to get the votes to end slavery in this country because he felt that was more important than giving someone a role or assignment or an office. Rose even if it made locking up politicians. But today that would be a scandal. Rose if you ask bo and others and maybe you they say frank was twothirds Lyndon Johnson. He got things done. You can talk about the emancipation proclamation and the Voting Rights bill like in selma. Yes. Johnson for his entire congressional career was on the opposite side of the Civil Rights Movement no doubt about it. But when he became president a i think because of the way he became president feeling it was his obligation to try to continue president kennedys mandate, he saw the presidency as a place where you can, in fact, get Something Like that done and thats what he sought out to do. Now, obviously rose on civil rights he did more than kennedy had done after he became president and in fact he said and perhaps if kennedy had had a longer time in the second term, he might have done that, but he also said, Lyndon Johnson did if you cant do this whats the presidency for . Exactly, whats it for. And obviously the march in selma had a lot to do with pushing that agenda further for johnson. Rose back to Frank Underwood, mafia chieftains they know who they are and what theyre about making money, keeping the family together. Ill make you an offer you couldnt refuse spoken in voice of the godfather laughter rose what would bill clinton say about that . I love that house of cards, though its so good rose and Johnny Carson would say about the house of cards . Well, id binge but im too busy writing monologues. Cant binge. Well be right back. He was so good at that. Rose but this year, it opens urinating on his fathers grave saying that, when you become president , you have to be a little human. Yeah, because for the press, they