And by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. From our studios in new york city, this is charlie Rose Jennifer lawrence is here. She is an Academy Award winning actor, David Edelstein called her a marvelous comic and dramatic actress and illuminate the struggle amid chaos to show inner stillness, winters bone, Silver Linings playbook and. The hungers game. And here is a look at some of her work. I am sick and she always going to be sick. Pretty soon they will come and take our house and throw us to live out in the field like dogs. I volunteer. I volunteer. I volunteer to tribute. I believe we have a volunteer. You need to get out of here. Go find mom. No, no. You are afraid to be alive, you are afraid to live. You are a hypocrite, you are a conformist, you a liar, i opened up to you and you judged me. You are an asshole, you are an asshole. Calm down. Get off me. Get off me. You are harassing me. She harassing me. Life is riddle and you know that i would never say anything bad about your father in front of you but your father is a stick son of a bitch. Sick son of a bitch. I am afraid i va message for president snow i have a message for president snow you can torture us and bomb us and burn our districts to the ground, but do you see that . Fire is catching. And if we burn, you burn with us Rose Lawrence stars as joey in David O Russells new film joy opening on christmas day. I am pleased to have Jennifer Lawrence at this table for the first time. So when you see that, what do you think . Memories. From shooting. Rose the favorite characteristic of all of those . Rosalynn was the most fun. Why . It is just so out there and so different, and i just loved her. She started with the nails and it was just that was really fun. And it wrs also supporting. So it wasnt the work schedule was nice. I have nice memories from that character. Rose what is interesting about this is you are the female lead of this film, David Russell says that is kind of it is saying Something Big about you and saying Something Big about what he believes in as a film maker. Do you feel a responsibility . Yeah. I mean, i feel a responsibility anyway but, you know, in are logistical responsibilities. That come with it, you know, leading a big movie, you to be on time, you have to work hard and work long hours. Rose thats not hard for you. No, it is not but it is a responsibility. Rose all of this with no acting classes. Yes. Rose what does that say . You can learn . Without going to acting school . 3 i can learn . Well i mean i have had amazing directors, i have been very fortunate to have unbelievable directors but i dont know, i have always loved it. But what is it you think about you . I mean this has been a remarkable journey. From certainly one of the most highly paid actors if not the most highly paid actor in the world, extraordinary reviews and people talking about you, i mean, here is Donald Sutherland said how brilliant that child Jennifer Lawrence, i said to somebody earlier today, change your name to Jennifer Lawrence olivier and get done with it just call her sir. David 0 russell, this is what he said to me last night at this table as we taped for a future broadcast. Roll the tape. I have watched jennifer grow up since we first met her on Silver Linings playbook she walked on as a 20yearold girl who was not famous and asked them how it was like to be tape mouse and i watched her have to deal with an enormous amount of attention and all sorts of things and remain true to herself and find her voice, power and dignity. I watched her buy her own house for the first time and unpack her boxes and i have seen her learn to conduct herself and protect herself and while still being true to herself, that takes a certain power and she made herself starting at 14. Soso me the movie is about jennifer as well. Rose and in the sense of the narrative is her narrative as well, discovering herself . Self invention as well . Yes and we wouldnt want to do a bio pic, people think it looks like a cake on the outside. Rose but it is a struggle. Enormous struggle that never ends and it is filled with heartbreak, so what is the emotion and joy . I ask that question as a film make they are has to be enough to come to the collaboration and say it is worthy of your time and you, jenniferly do it if you do it, i say we will do it if we can do it with ambition. He is nice. Rose more than nice. He understands you. Doesnt he . Yeah. I understand him. We have i mean, he is probably the most important relationship in my life, besides family. Rose what is it about the relationship . There is an understanding i mean we both love cinema and we understand each other so well that i feel like both of us can be i mean, i can attest to him giving me my greatest performances. He can push me and pull things out of me i didnt even know who were there so i can be my absolute best with him and hopefully i can i can inspire him to want to keep i dont know , you know, we get along. We have a similar sense of humor. We have fun. And we have an enormous amount of respect for each other but really, we have a very deep understanding of each other. Rose he talks about the growth and the reinvention. Do you see that . Do you see that in a sense you have been in control of your life and you have made you have achieved what you wanted to do . Yes. I mean i feel like i am growing. I have achieved more than i ever thought was possible. I just when i first started acting, i was on a sitcom i was happy to be on a sitcom for the rest of my life, i didnt really have these aspirations, this is so much bigger than anything i could have imagined. So i can feel myself growing up and i am still making mistakes and i am learning from, but i do understand what he means by, i feel very different than when i first met david. Rose how so . Just growing and getting older and i dont know, your senses change, my defense used to be i am little, i dont know. Rose what are your senses now . I know exactly what you are up to. Rose you have learned that, dont you . It is a work in progress. So where does this take you . Do you feel like this is the best time of your life that you have come to after all of this in terms of franchiser irs that you have done so well in, the hunger games and xmen, in terms of getting able to play roles with Robert Dinero and Bradley Cooper and Eddie Ramirez and a range of men and women who have proven talents . This must be for you a remarkable time to say yes. Rose wow. Yes. As an actor, go really feel like there is anything i have the right to wish for anymore. Rose do you understand talent . I mean, do you understand why you . What was it about jennifer that enabled her to achieve this Remarkable Growth . I dont know. I dont have the answer to that. I have been so fortunate. It is so giant that i dont feel like i could ever take credit for it or even ever really fully compute it. How is joy as a different character for you . Because she stretches over decades. You is a different side to david and i. We were saying, we are growing up a little bit. Rose yes. This is a quieter power. David says this is the first time i havent played crazy for him. And also it is my first time growing with the character over i have grown with the hunger games, you know, but each movie is different, each year i was old sore this was the first time it is four generations, playing the same woman. So that was a different stretch for me. Rose but you could understand joy . I understood my joy. And when i met the real joy mengano i was just sofas made by her heave because when david pitched they movie we werent planning on doing a bio pic, we didnt want to put ourselves with those kind of restrictions, we want to be able to breathe and have cinematic creation and explore dreams and nightmares in her childhood and have creative freedom and i wanted that too as an actor, i didnt want to be an imitation. But i started listening to her, obviously when i went to see her on tv, i watched it or had it on in the background and david would have these really long conversations with her and i would read and i would listen to them or they would be transcribed and i would read them and her life is sofas neigh and when i met her, she has such a unique energy and personality because she is very sweet. She doesnt have any airs. She is very friendly and fun and funny but she is also very quietly powerful, very has such a deep, deep patience and that was really inspiring for me. Rose but you have the same thing . Well, thank you. Rose well, you know that. You listen to some of the things you have said, i try to plant everything and i have a course because i am controlling but i watch my career take shape and i love what it has done. I never could have designed it in a million years. Thats true. Rose but there is a sense of wanting to shape and develop. Of course. And thats the scariest part of my job, is the gamble of reading a script, which one do you do . You never know. You can real an amazing script and hire a director who seems fantastic, and have an amazing costar and you can be on the set and be completely out of control and watch it either fall apart or love it and then audiences dont respondable, you know, and there are certain there is planning of a year, you going to have this movie come out, what follows that . And thats the most stressful part of my job because it is a gamble but it is important to me that i do make those decisions. I dont want an agents career or a lawyers career. I want i need advice. I have an amazing agent and i really respect his opinion but i would never do it is all my entire career is dictated by a feeling and i have gone through Great Lengths to try to make sure it stays that way, i have shed big parts of my team because i dont want more people to say, no to. Rose you trust your gut . I do. And seems i am wrong. Rose and when you are wrong, what do you think happened . Everything is fine. It happens. In business, there are ups and downs, i am blaming myself, i should have listened to that person and you say oh i learn. Rose and you know why it turned out to be the wrong choice . Yes. Rose what do you look for in a role . Nothing. Rose it has to speak to you . Yeah. I mean, the first, if i hear a story, in a, that sounds appealing and i read it and sometimes it is very clear, you just cant wait to jump in, you just cant wait to get started. Rose is that true about joy . Well, no, because there was nothing to read for joy, joy i mean joy, david just called me and said woul would you like toy the woman who invented the rose who calls you in the middle of the night. Thats how i know it is going to be good when david calls me in the middle of the might it is going to be a good one. And he is the only person i would nance the middle of the night. Iit is the only person who calls in the middle of the night. Rose if david his it is good for you it is probably good for you. It doesnt even matter, david could pitch me something that sounds horrible, joy is a brilliant idea and i love him so much for having this heart and being inspired by this womans story he can find a diamond in something that is being so overlooked, people can walk over it every day and stop and say there is a story here and peel it back and thats what i love about him. But it is not about the outcome of the movie when it comes to david, it is that way with everybody else but with david it is on the experience on the set, what he does for me and i hate the word craft but it is so much more important for when i did American Hustle, i only had three weeks off, i think in about two years, i had three weeks off and it was either time off or do American Hustle and i did American Hustle and i am so happy i did because i strengthened that muscle and learned so much more and was able to develop from working with him, and that is what it is about with david. I hope joy does well. I think it will because i really think it is fantastic but i dont care. I just remember the experience on the set and it was so important. Rose what is the experience . Help me understand the experience on the set. He is a storyteller and he is all about the magic of cinema. He is so untouched by everything. It is so pure, and i have never met anyone like that. I never met anyone in this business especially like that. And Everything Everything is unusual and unorthodox because it is pure. He will waste time and shoot, have less time shooting because he wants to stay in my trailer telling me again and again and again the story of joy that i know in the script that i have read. Rose yes. Again and again until he feels like there is some sort of shift in my eyes, we are on the same page and then we can go to set. And he can see it in your eyes . I dont know. I dont know. But that is what is most important to him. Him. Rose yes. Take a look at this, this is a scene where joy is trying to sell the miracle mop at a k mart parking lot. Here it is. Well, it is the only mop you will ever have to buy. Hi, would you like to try a new mop . No. It is so springy you can remove the mop head and throw it in the washing machine, no germs. No . No . You just want to try it. No other mop does this. P. It is a mop of the future. No thanks. You want to try this mop, ladies. What is this . It is a brandnew mop. Oh. You can wring it without getting your hands dirty. Oh, i dont think so. Come on, try it, it is the mop of the future. Pretty springy, huh . Yes i do like the idea. You dont have to touch the mop head after i clean the bathroom floor, i always think that is disgusting, it really does get the corner and although crannies where my kids spill their juice. I really like it, can we buy it . Take it easy, christie. I have a great video on my phone of david just going nuts with a mop on the cleaning up slush. And he had his headphones in and it is like what are you doing . Rose but it was a magic time too when he when somebody else tried to sell the mop and he couldnt on qvc. Yes. And she understood let me do it. And it is true that happened she watched her product destroyed by this spokes model. And really did convince them to let her go on. Rose but let me go back to roles. They just speak to you, it is no formula, there is nothing you are looking for. It just has to speak to you . I guess, yes. When you saw the hunger games for the first time . I loved the books. I was so i was really excited about that message and that format for the young generation, i thought that was really brilliant and i loved the character. Rose what did you love about the character. It was so big. Rose strength . Her strength, i mean, and also, the story about it is a story about sacrifice, everything she sacrificed and actually the think that i love most about her now is something that i kind of had to grow into, when i was younger it used to frustrate me how much of a her roy inshe was, i wanted her just to get it and be a hero and i grew up, and it is like no she understands, she understands the consequences of a war like any great warrior or leader does. Rose so as you grew up you understood . Yes. Rose your first instinct is just to get it . Yeah, it is like this could be a great cinematic moment. Rose i assumed it is called patience, discipline may be th the best word. Do you have any sense of that now in terms of where you are you have to discipline yourself and not try to do too much and try to sort of be very selective . Yes. I do know i am selective, but there is also, you know, the great stuff happens that can only happen on the schedule, do you do it, do you do it, do you not do it is i ai am an actor and i have a shelf life. Rose how long is that shelf life . Probably until i start getting crows feet. I dont know. [laughter. ] rose but is it changing . I mean you spoke out on pay equity and after the sony hacking. Do you believe that because you have the strength that you have, i mean, that this can change . Yeah, i think the road is narrowing and it is a huge discussion, which is the most important thing we are talking about. And i think some things are changing. I had a friend tell me she is getting paid the same as her male costar and she didnt believe that would have happened, you know, a year ago, so that is hope that things are changing. Rose what is it that made you speak out . It is strong and therefore i now have the strength and confidence in myself . And you might have thought it and not said it and now you think it and say it . El. Well, we have always known about gender inequality, it was about huge discussion but i had known about, about this issue and when the sony hack happened and i saw the difference, in pay, i spoke out because i knew what led to that. I knew that there was no one to blame but myself. I knew it wasnt sonys fault. It was what i had done with my own mentality, almost a gender bias that we as women i can only speak as a woman because i have never been a man but as women we almost put this gender bu bias n ourselves maybe possibly so i wanted to open up and said i feel this way, i feel awkward negotiating, i feel uncomfortable asking for more money. I dont want to seem like a brat and like all of these things that are only words with that are used for women and dont have those words for males. And if this can help somebody, great. Rose because you had gained the strength and counsel to do it . Yeah. I think i i think it has been an awkward process because i am growing up a little bit in the spotlight so i used to just keep my mouth shut about everything because my life depends on everybody just going to my movies and not just those who agree with my opinion and people tonight like opinionated actors or celebs, so it is scary to do it because you know you could be losing friends or box office tickets. Rose yes. But as i get older and i learn more, and i have opinions, i go, yeah, but i dont have i have just as much of a right to speak and with Something Like that, it was something that was so clearly unfair if i dont use my voice for women who dont have a voice, then what is the point . Rose are there other political issues like that that garner your focus . I mean, i am very politically opinionated, but its i dont know. I am still in the growing process, so i dont maybe in a year or i dont know when i will go, yes, and i am ready to speak about it, or i will go, no, you know what . I can have my opinion. Freedom of speech i