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First visit to moosic as president and one of several planned speeches on religious tolerance. He spoke at the Israeli Embassy last week and will appear at the National Prayer breakfast thursday in. His speech today the president condemned islamophobia and defended religious freedom. As americans we have to stay true to our core values and that includes freedom for all religions of all faiths. Our founders like jefferson knew religious liberty is essential not only to protect religion but because religion helps strengthen our nation. Tolerance of different religions is not enough. Our faith summons us to embrace our common humanity. Since 9 11 but more recently since the attacks in paris and san bernardino, youve seen too often people confusing horrific acts of terrorism with the beliefs of an entire faith. Recently weve heard inexcusable political rhetoric against muslimamericans that has no place in our country. Rose joining me from washington that that, senior fellow of the Brookings Institution and author of the forthcoming book, islamic exceptionalism. Also tom gjelten, correspondent for n. P. R. Covering religion and belief. Here in new york farhana khera. Why now and does it reflect growing concern on the part of the president in the last year. I think thats right, charlie. In the aftermath of 9 11, weve seen islam emerge as a political issue, the treatment of muslims, immigration, all of these have become likely hot button political issues in a way they werent at anytime since president obama took office. I cant say why he hasnt done this before. He has spoken out at mosques overseas. H he gave a very famous speech in cairo early in his presidency, but i think this has to be seen as a reaction to this rising rhetoric oa rhetoric of w months. Rose he said several times, look, im a christian, clearly to make that point, and he said many other things having to do it seems to me his audience were those people certainly in the political debate that he was trying to speak to them that this was not america and they were going too far. One of the lines he said that i thought was especially interesting is he appealed to americans, not just people in the mosque, of course, but americans and said, think of this as a place of worship. This is where families come to worship. Ericans to see a mosque as. Just another place of worship and muslims as Just Another Group of believers. Rose the president also said there was some fear and concern within the Muslim Community. Right. Rose that was another reason. Ill come back to you, tom, in a second. Was that true in terms of your own experience . Yes, very much so, charlie. Over the last year we add Muslim Advocates have been urging the president to speak publicly about what we had seen as a rise in tide of antimuslim bigotry and antimuslim hate crimes and discrimination, in the last two months alone since the horrific attacks in paris, weve seen nearly 70 hate crimes targeting americans simply based on their faith and antimuslim bias. So we believe the president s leadership encouraging our fellow americans to embrace our religious freedom and reminding them that muslims have been a part of america since our nations founding was absolutely crucial. Rose do yo shadi, tuning ths will change anything . The symbolism of obama being in a mosque and speaking directly to Muslim Americans and saying quite powerfully you belong here, you are muslim and american and we need to embrace that as a country. So i think that message was important. He clearly knew his audience. He made an interesting comment about muslim characters on tv only being only having roles relating to national security. You know, as someone who likes watching shows like homeland, you know, you cant help but notice that we as muslims are either fighting terrorism or the terrorists, you know, so i think that the symbolism of statements like that really connects to an americanmuslim audience. Now, will it have an effect on a broader American Public . Thats perhaps less likely. I feel were at a point in this country where were so polarized that if you already have negative feelings about muslims, nothing obama says is going to change your mind because you probably see obama as part of the problem that someone who hasnt taken a strong stand against terrorism and attacks in the west. But i think at least for the American Muslim Community this is something they needed to hear. Rose okay. Go ahead. You would have something to do if you went to the white house and said time for the president to go to a mosque. Im going to disagree with my friend shadi at this point. I hope the president s remarks will make a difference. In order for us to make head way in pushing back against this rhetoric and fearmongerring, we need all americans of good will being willing to stand up and that starts with the president of the united states. A line in his remarks that struck me and that was we cannot be bystanders to bigotry, and hes leading by example. Its my hope that other americans will follow his lead from Public Officials to other people in places of public trust to celebrities and our everyday americans, your neighbors, teachers in school who are the teachers of these young people who are shaping the hearts and minds of our future americans. Rose tom will probably know this better than i do, but there was a famous quote from the British Parliament that said for evil to triumph, all thats necessary is for good men to stand aside. Good men to do nothing, right. I wanted to make one other point, charlie. Before he came into the mosque, he met for about an hour with a dozen Young American muslims, men and women, and one of the things he heard from them is they often felt invisible. Then he came out into the mosque and said to american muslims, dont be invisible. You need to be visible not just ur communities are underwhen attack, you need to be visible at all times. So i think that was a plea to be more engaged in america. Rose be part of the American Fabric and part of the american conversation. Exactly right. I would go one step further. It was a plea to not just be a part of the conversation but to not be acclaimed to be a muslim in america and that touches on a critical fear that i hear of concern of muslim fathers and mothsers across the country and particularly in the last few months of increasing urgency is a concern because of the political dialogue of hate crime rose identifying it as bullying in school, sometimes conduct by administrators and teachers, people who should know better. Its that idea that everyone should have a place in our country and equal access to opportunity. Rose i should make the point the president visited a mosque before. This is the first time in america. Thats correct. Rose some argue and some israelis were concerned and jews, at the time he went to cairo, that he didnt come to jerusalem, you know, that that would have made things much better if he had reached out, because this was early in his presidency. He certainly, throughout his administration, and shadi could probably speak to this more as a Foreign Policy expert, but he certainly has been visiting muslim communities around the world from egypt to malaysia, indonesia and now has basically come home in his last year. Rose speak to the idea of pushback to the president from the republican candidates in and thation on how you identify radical terrorism. Yeah, so its hard to remember it now. It seems like a very long time ago, the cairo speech, but i remember listening to that in 2009. It was a great speech, got a lot of attention at the time, supposed to be a landmark, and obama was trying to set the tone for what he called a new beginning with the muslim world. I think unfortunately what weve seen since that speech is not so much followup and a lack of vision when it comes tone gauging with the broader muslim world and obviously obamas policies have come under a lot of criticism especially in the middle east and syria for his failure to do more to protect syrians. But the additional impulse was the right one and i think obama is trying to return to some of that initial spirit. When it comes to republicans, you know, i think its a kind of silly semantic game oh, obama wont say radical islamic terrorism, as if it really matters exactly how he names. This i think the bigger criticism, the one i actually would agree with, isnt about names but the substance of obamas policy that he hasnt, in my view, really prioritized the fight against i. S. I. S. The way he should. He seems to be doing everything reluctantly. He would rather see i. S. I. S. As a bunch of thugs and fanatics and dismissed them as an accident of history and not taking them as a serious phenomenon that will be with us for years and possibly decades to come. And i think that is something thats noticeable, and that shouldnt be a republican or democrat thing. Many on the liberal and democratic side have criticized obama for not having more, as i side, a vision and a strategy when it comes to fighting i. S. I. S. In iraq and syria and really making that a top priority of his administration. We all know that just before just months before i. S. I. S. Really captured the worlds attention, obama called i. S. I. S. The j. V. Team of terrorism. I think that says something about how obama sees his priorities. Rose and also it has to do with his president ial Campaign Promise to get us out of wars and understanding what the afghan war and what the iraqi war, the price that had been paid there, you know, and his reluctance because he thinks, you know, that it is a very, very slippery slope. Exactly. I think there is something tragic about a president who really thought that this would be his legacy of leaving the middle east in better shape, of extracting america from two disastrous adventures abroad. But now his legacy, i think, unfortunately, will be could he have done more to fight i. S. I. S. Or to prevent i. S. I. S. s emergence in the first place . Could he have done more to stop mass slaughter in syria . So thats certainly not what he wanted to be remembered for but i worry thats sort of where were at right now. Rose what should he have done other than, using your own words, treating wit more concern and urgency. So i think syria is really the center of gravity when we want to understand why i. S. I. S. Became i. S. I. S. I. S. I. S. s predecessor had suffered defeat in iraq and the group was able to revive itself in syria, then we see the spillover back into iraq. So this idea i. S. I. S. Could be contained, we see time and time again this has been the case, but as we acknowledge syria as the center of gravity, that means we could have done more from seeing this political vacuum from emerging, meaning intervening guest against the assad regime because thats in some ways the opposite side of the coin that the brutality of the assad regime has actually give life to groups like i. S. I. S. That are saying we are the last line of defense against the assad regime and this repression. And still to this day, we dont have a strategy against the assad regime, and as long as the assad regime is still in if drivers seat thinking it can win, maybe it wont be called i. S. I. S. , but we will have other groups that fill in the vacuum. Rose we could have a long time debating what happened in syria and iraq and this is a moment to talk about what the president is trying to do here, and clearly he is calling on that point, though. He is calling on not only muslims in america to get involved but also muslims around the world to get involved with respect to i. S. I. S. , both governments and foundations and everybody else, correct . Thats correct, and actually this part of it gets me a little nervous. He said this in previous speeches as well, almost the implication that we as muslims by virtue of being muslim, that means we have a special responsibility to fight extremism or to speak out or to condemn. No one should feel that they have to condemn something just because they happen to be born muslim. Rose well, but if you also believe theyre hijacking your religion, you clearly want to speak out and say this is not islam, dont you . Yeah. I totally support that. If muslims want to take the initiative as they are doing throughout the world, that is something that is great and should be encouraged. But this idea of communal responsibility that just because youre a member of a particular group, that means you have to say certain things. That, to me, is a little bit problematic because that contributes to the sense that there is something wrong with us as a Muslim Community that we have pockets of extremism in the u. S. Muslim community which is not actually the case. I cant think of any particular locality or community where you have a bunch of people joining i. S. I. S. That may be more the case in europe, but the number of people who have been implicated in supporting i. S. I. S. Is very, very small, and thats something we should be proud of as americans that we havent had as much of a problem as our friends in europe. Rose i got you. Let me go to farhana. I want to respond to the terminology question and i think oftentimes the discourse about it is in the Foreign Policy aspect and i wanted to raise timber cases here at home and that is by using terminologies like radical islam, radical islamists, its underscoring not only this is a war against islam overseas to our enemies overseas, but also to our neighbors here at home. And i think that is as directly feeding this environment of hate crimes and hate violence that were seeing targeting our pos mosques, our schools and Young Children across our country, a and i think thats another reason we need to be careful about terminology and what shadi was saying being careful not to assign blame to an entire group of people based on their faith simply because of the actions of a few. So i commend the president and his team in being disciplined in how we talk about the enemy. Rose tom, go ahead. As long as i have been covering this, you hear it talked about as a war of ideas and an ideological struggle, but something really changed in the last couple of years, which is that i. S. I. S. Began to acquire territory an and abu back muslio fight now that a caliphate has been declared. There is a military aspect to the struggle that wasnt there before. I know a lot of people are saying its important to take away that territory and make it more difficult for i. S. I. S. To claim that caliphate. So he met with about a dozen, six men and six women that were cozen, i understand, by the white house, and it was a pretty impassioned speech, and what they told him, i understand, from talking to someone in that group, is that they felt really under stress, that they felt it was very important for the president of the united states, the leader of the free world to come out now. They said they had never before felt so under stress as they are at this moment, and they were really grateful to the president for meeting with him. Rose Doris Kearns Goodwin has made a comment that, in a sense, this is for the president in part, without making any direct analogy, like George WashingtonsFarewell Speech and Dwight Eisenhower when he warned against the military Industrial Complex that in this speech the president is warning this goes to the heart of what america is about and that the idea that the freedom of religion is so crucial to who we are that we must be vigorous about protecting it. I think thats absolutely right. And its enshrined in the first amendment. Its to our bill of rights and the constitution, and i think there is a reason for that when the founders put that in the first amendment. You know, i would argue as a lawyer that the rights that we have in our country and particularly when it comes to religious freedom, i think, are unique set of rights and freedom also that are unprecedented, even compared to other western democracies, and we do have something pretty special in this country, but what we have seen through American History is that its taken generations of americans including president s to do their part to ensure that our nation is living up to those ideals. Rose i have to end it there, but i must say, also, its important to see what kind of followup there is after a speech like this which clearly the white house has been talking about, has been planning, has signaled he thinks is important whether the kind of followup and outsourcing takes place. Thank you for coming. Great, thank you. Rose thank you, tom. Thank you, shadi. Thank you, charlie. Rose well be right back, stay with us. Rose super bowl 50 is days away but advertising has already begun. 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