Rose welcome to the program. We begin tonight with the shooting at a gop congressionala virginia, this morning. We talk to congressman Chuck Fleischmann of tennessee who was at the field when the shoot og kurd. As i got in and i walked and i approached the batting cage, close to home plate but on the third base side, large crack. I didnt realize at that time that that was a gunshot. There s really no since of alarm at that point in time until about 10 seconds later when the shooter opened up with literally a barrage of gunfire. Rose we continue with acer sam elliott, his new film is called the hero. Im riding the peak right now. Its all peaks and valleys. Have i had a wonderful career, its been almost 49 years now and to still be at it doing something i loved as a kid and always aspired to do, you know, im a lucky man. Rose and we conclude with Dexter Filkins the writer and reporter for the new yorker magazine, his latest piece in the magazine was a profile of defense secretary james mattis. Even then all the marines were kind of whispering and looking on him with some awe, there is general mattis. And. Rose but he. He was, if you remember that time the entire plan of the invasion was speed, go fast. That is what mattis was doing, essentially, going to his commanders and saying go, get to baghdad as fast as possible and take the regime down. Congressman Chuck Fleischmann, the actor sam elliott and the reporter Dexter Filkins when we continue. Funding for charlie rose is provided by the following bank of america, life better connected. And by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. We begin this evening with todays shotting in alexandria congressman Steve Scalise the majority whip of the house of representatives is in Critical Condition after gunman opened fire at gop congressional baseball practice on wednesday morning. Four other people have been hospitalized. President trump confirmed that the shooter, 66 year old James Hodgkinson of illinois was killed after a shootout with the d. C. Capital police. The president responded to the shooting in a tell viezed statement from the white house characterizing the attack as a very, very brutal assault and pledging his full support to the victims and their families. Congressman scalise is a friend and a very good friend. Hes a patriot and hes a fighter. He will recover from this assault and steve, i want you to know that you have the prayers, not only of the entire city behind you, but of an entire nation and frankly the entire world. Rose for the latest we turn to the report from the cbs evening news with scott pelley. Congressman steve scal agenciee, third ranking republican in the house is in Critical Condition tonight after a shooting that has shaken this great capitol am but it has also left the capitol more unified than it has been in a very long time. The gunman opened fire this morning on republican members of the house and senate at a ballfield in alexandria, virginia, about five miles from capitol hill. They were practicing for tomorrow nights charity game to be played against a team of democrats. Four people including the 51 year old congressman were shot. Another, Capitol Police officer crystal griner is in Good Condition tonight. Two others suffered minor injuries. The gunman, a homeless man, angry with the Republican Party, was fatally shot by the police. We have extensive coverage from a team of correspondents and first well go to chip reid in alexandria. Just after 7 a. M. Batting practice was wrapping up when the first shots rang out. A bystanders video captured the sound of bullets piercing the air. Tennessee congressman Chuck Fleischmann and others sprinted to the dugout where he says they felt like sitting ducks. Today i experienced the carnage of actual gunshots being fired first hand. It was horrific. Reporter witnesses say it soon became a gun battle between the shooter and police. Congressman joe barton who manages the team was there with his ten year old son jack, who took cover under a nearby suv. Dozens if not hundreds of shots fired. It was scary. Reporter congressman rod nee davis was taking batting practice when the attack began. I heard a loud noise. People started dropping and a large piece of metal and then the next third i heard was run, hes got a gun. Reporter witnesses say the gunman approached a fence along the Third Base Line but never got on the field. Republican whip Steve Scalise standing on second base was shot first. Other lawmakers took cover in the first base dugout. Steve scalise dragged himself across the field leaving a trail of blood. After the attack was over senator jeff flake and others ran to his aid. He was just laying on the field. He got shot in the hip. We applied pressure and tried to stop the bleeding there. Reporter also shot, zachary bart, a staff member for congressman Roger Williams and mike mika who used to work on the hill but now is a will beist for tie son foods. Two capitol plition officers crystal griner and Matthew Bailey were also wounded. Because of his leadership position scalise has a security detail with him at all times. Congressman williams who injured his ankle, said without them it could have been a massacre. There could have easily been 25 deaths or more today. But officers griner and bailey prevented that and my family and i will be forever grateful. Reporter congressman jeff duncan left just before the shooting began but he says he believes he encountered the gunman as he was leaving. I did have an interaction with someone in the parking lot who asked me if the Team Practicing was the democrat or republican team, i told him they were republicans. He said k, thanks, turned around. Reporter hours after the attack some members of the team still had their uniforms on, still trying to process what happened and how to move on. What we have to remember is this, is the American People, are great people. And we have great values. We represent great people every day. In all, four people were shot by the assailants. Congressman scalise is in Critical Condition after surgery, lobbyist matt mika is also in Critical Condition. He was shot twice in the chest. Officer griner was shot in the ankle. She is in Good Condition and finally staffer zack bart was shot in the leg. Is he in Good Condition. And scott, members of the house have decided not to give in to fear. The annual congress ml congressional baseball game will be held as scheduled tomorrow. Rose chip reid at the scene of the assault. At least for a day. There was rare unity on capitol hill. Nears nancy cordes. A show of force at the capitol today. Long security lines and armed patrols guarding a shaken congress. We cant let the haters win. Reporter the shooting prompted a pause in partisanship. An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. applause reporter this attack wounded a very wellknown member. Were still not there yet. Reporter at majority whip, Steve Scalise is responsible for counting votes and changing minds. A role reserved for those with the power of per situation. He loves this place. Ive never seen him in a bad mood. I know he must be, hes human. Reporter unlike scalise, most rank and file members do not have a security detail. New york republican claudia teny got this menacing email today, one down, 216 to go. A man who threatened arizonas Martha Mcsally will be arraigned this week. When you see some of the things that are going on out there, its like the frog in the water where you are turning the temperature up one degree at a time. And as i said when the man was arrested making threats against me, threats of violence and acts of violence are not so far apart. Reporter some members asked today whether they could use Campaign Funds to pay for more protection. Missouris Claire Mccaskill says shes not sure thats the answer. But at the end of the day, i like that i drive to the Grocery Store and talk to women and men in the produce department about what is going on. Many lawmakers argue they need to turn the microscope on themselves, dialing down political rhetoric that has decide divided the nation. I implore all of us to remember that we are first, americans joining me from washington congressman jeff Chuck Fleischmann representing tennessee, and at the field this morning when the shoot og kurd. I am pleased to have him here to take us to the scene of the tragedy that took place a few minutes after 7 00 in alexandria, virginia. Congressman, thank you. I know it has been a difficult day with you, seeing colleagues shot and being there. Set the scene for us as to the significance of this baseball event, and what it means and why so many people from both republican and Democratic Party were coming there to play in pd years, democrats and republicans have played an annual baseball game for charity. When i came to congress seven years ago, i found out that my party, the Republican Party had a Baseball Team and there was an annual game. Every year i have gone out to do that, its tremendous, theres bipartisan support for the game. Baseball is americas great game and it raises a lot of money for charity. Members on both sides of the aisle take this seriously. Folks like myself go out and practice every day for about a month and a half. And the big game actually is set for tomorrow and is going to go on. As planned. And i think thats very important. As was said by someone this morning, its important for democracy to say that we will continue no matter what. Youre absolutely right. We cant let the bad guys win. There are too many bad guys in this i c. Too many bad guys in this world. But the American People are a great people. Were a good people. Weve got great values. And when something happens the magnitude of what happened today, charlie, it was horrific, to be actually there, almost being killed, almost being shot, it was horrible. But again, we cant let the bad guys win. Baseball is something that brings americans together. And lets hope that out of this horrible thraj de our country can come together. Because we really do need to come together. Rose give me the time line as to what happens when you first heard gunshots. Well, we were close to the congress cleution of our practice. And im 54 now so after practice i go out and stretch in the outfield. I happened to go out in left field to do my pushups and stretching and as i was walking in i didnt realize because i didnt see that the shooter was actually on that side of the field. Thats why i feel so fortunate. I would have been an easy first shot for him. As i got in, and i walked and i approached the batting cage close to home plate but on the third base side, i heard one large boom, i didnt realize at that time that was a gunshot, until about 10 seconds later, when the shooter opened up with literally a barrage of gunfire. There could have been probably 50 or 60 shots, there was chaos on the field, i immediately went right down to the ground until i made a dash about a minute or so later because the shooting didnt stop for the dugout and i jumped into the dugout on the first base side. And where was the shooter . The shooter originally as i understand it was on the third base side of the yin field outside the field outside the fence, as i understand later he apparently made a move towards the other side of the field where the Capitol Police engaged him. Our Capitol Police officers did a great job. It was a terrible day. But he must have gone right past me as i was playing face down on the field. Thank god he didnt shoot me. Did you see the congressman go down. I did not i saw him attempting to crawl to hopefully be out of the range of the gunmans site sight, i would assume. I would assume he was a deer friend, we play together just about every day. He is one at that practice literally every day. He loves baseball, thank god he was there. That 19 only reason we had protection at the Capitol Police if they had not been there that day we would have seen a lot more injured and dead people on the field. We say heroes because they only had handguns and took fire as they took down the gunman. Absolutely they did. And as a matter of fact, when i finally made it to the dugout, the firing from the gunman was continuing, i finally heard return fire from the Capitol Police and it was a welcome sound knowing that something was being done to deter the gunman because the fear on everybodys mind in the dugout including some children were that this shooter might actually attempt to come into the dugout, if that were the case, it boo would have been a disaster because no one was armed in the dugout. Rose this is the 154th mass shooting. Yes. Its extraordinary. How do we stop this . Well, i think we have to realize that unfortunately there are some people in america who are bad people. Whether its their ideology, compelled by whether its radical islam or in this case this gentleman looks like he was motivated by, sadly, hated republicans, weve got to address this in the country at the root cause. There are a lot of sick people with bad ideas. But charlie, we cant let the bad guys win. They will choose a knife. They will choose a bomb. Sometimes they will choose a gun. But i made a resolve today and talked to a lot of people in the media and outside of the media today. And the American People are a great people, with an outstanding set of values. We go to work, we play by the rules. We want our children to be safe and to prosper. We are a great nation. So we need to resolve to beat the bad guys and not to lose our freedoms, whether the second amendment, the firstment, i do not not want the bad guys to win. That is why i will go out and play baseball tomorrow. The game is going to go on, i will be there. Part of me is still a little bit concerned. Im still a little bit shook up. But both teams, republicans and democrats will go out tomorrow, charlie, as americans and thats very important to send a message. We will not let the bad guys win. I assume assume the house leaders will be there and members of congress will be there as a show of strength for those who will be playing. Absolutely. Theres going to be a tremendous outpouring of support. Traditionally we get 15 to 20,000 people at the game. Tomorrow im hoping for about 50,000. We have raised over 600,000 for washington d. C. Charities, that number will go up, its a worthy cause. But it is about baseball bringing america together, starting this healing process. Im proud to be a part of it. Im going to go out tomorrow and play my best and do my best. Im slightly injured but thats the furtherrest thing from my mind. You injured when you threw yourself into the dugout. Thats correct. That is where a lot of members got injured. When i got into the dugout sadly there was blood everywhere, my hands and knees got banged up but that is okay. Thank god i was safe and that crazy gunman didnt shoot me. Rose we heard from the fbi in charge of the investigation, there was a defleks of the many of the questions because they said they want to get all the facts. We later learned that the assailant, that the gunman had died at the hospital but the fbi is not saying what his motive was yet. We dont know whether he was out to kill republicans or democrats or what his motive was, do we . Well, can i only tell you what i know. I spoke with pie good friend congressman jeff duncan who left the practice earlier than i did. He told me he actually spoke with the gunman and the gunman asked him a simple question. Who is practicing out here today. Are these republicans. And obviously the answer was in the affirmative. Now its very common, charlie, for people to come out and watch us play. Its always been very safe. That is a rather innocuous question most of the time. In this case sadly it was a person who had a vendetta of some sort against republicans and sadly he attempted and did carry it out. And we know from later congressman and senator sanders has said that he was a volunteer in some way in the campaign although no one remembers him. He was a volunteer in Bernie Sanders campaign and i think he posted that on his facebook. Well, clearly this person had an ideology of hatred. I dont want to blame democrats or anybody else other than the shooter. But i think its a very important sign that the rhetoric in this country that sometimes gets so volatile and viel on both sides, sometimes leads people like this gentleman who clearly has problems, who clearly is deranged in some way to do this, to conduct an act of violence like that. I sincerely hope that most americans will realize that despite the differences that we have in our great nation, members on both sides of the aisle love this country, work hard. Im a conservative republican. I represent my district which is a very conservative district very well, but charlie, not all of america thinks the way i do or my district does. But we need to to come together, Work Together and union fie together. And we cannot let the bad guys win, today a bad guy did some terrible things. To some members and to some innocent people. Lets just hope that we can curb this in the future. Can you tell us what you know about the condition of congressman scal ease . Yes. Congressman scal ease is a dear friend of mine. Hes actually a great baseball player. Gets out there every day and hustles. He has had apparently two surgeries. He is on the mend. Were all hoping and praying for a rapid and full recovery. Also t