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KQED PBS NewsHour September 2, 2016

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An yo sreenivasan the Campaign Spotlight stayed on donald trump today, and what he will or will not do about immigration, deportation, and a border wall. The republican nominee faced fallout from a fiery speech las night hours after he had taken a more moderate tone with mexicos president. De well have a full report, after the news summary. Ifill in the days otherhe news people along floridas gulf coast braced for a direct hit tonight by a hurricane the states first since 2005. Hermine is projected to make landfall with winds of 75 miles an hour or higher and drive across the state toward thed atlantic. As it approached today, rain caused minor flooding, and people filled sandbags. Governor rick scott warned against taking the storm for granted. Were going to see big storm surge. Were going to see a lot of rain. Were going to see flooding. Were going to see down power lines. Theres going to be a lot of risk if we dont do our job. Everybody needs to be prepared. We are blessed we have the best Emergency Management teams ines the country at the state and local level. We have a Great National guard, but you have got to take this seriously. Yo ifill many cities in the storms path, including the capital tallahassee have not been hit by a hurricane inen decades. Sreenivasan state lawmakerss in california are expanding a Climate Change law thatsch already the most aggressive inst the nation. Majority democrats agreed last night to regulate methaneth emissions from landfills and dairy farms for the first time. It came over the objections of o industry and farming interests. Ifill a huge explosion rocked a spacex launch pad today at cape canaveral, florida. The Unmanned Falcon rocket blew up as a test for a saturday launch was under way. The blast also destroyed a Communications Satellite on board, but no one was hurt. Spacex said there was a problem in a fuel tank, but gave no details. Sreenivasan in Eastern Ukraine a fragile, new cease fire took effect at midnight between Government Troops andn prorussian rebels. Both president Petro Poroshenko and the rebels said the truce appeared to be holding. Fighting had flared in the contested Donetsk Region over the last month, after an earlier ceasefire collapsed. Ifill back in this country authorities in florida have found zika virus in three groupu of mosquitoes in miami beach. Its the first time thats happened in the continental u. S. The insects were trapped in the small area thats seen active zika transmission. Officials said today the finding will help them fight the virus. If there are positive traps,e we know when, we know where. All right . We can identify where this transmission is occurring. Wh typically what happens is that transmission occurs in mosquitoes in a limited area. And so we can intensify what we do in those areas. We can do more active surveillance, we can do surveys, we can do more active mosquito control. Ifill the control efforts could be complicated by the hurricane coming ashore tonight. Its heavy rain will leave new breeding pools for mosquitoes. Sreenivasan in Economic News major auto makers reported u. S. Sales slumped in augustmp as a surge in business begins to cool after six years. And on wall street the Dow Jones Industrial average gained 18 points to close at 18,419. The nasdaq rose nearly 14 points, and the s p 500 added a fraction. Sreenivasan still to come on the newshour Donald Trumps immigration speech in context, both president ial candidates make their appeals to veterans, where clinton stands on international trade, and much more. Ifill the talk on the campaign trail today focused largely on one issue immigration. And the new words from one candidate donald trump. Ca Lisa Desjardins reports. Reporter the scene today was southwestern ohio. Dont worry, were going to build that wall. Bu that wall will go up. Reporter but the big applause lines for donald trump were the same as last night in phoenix talk of a Mexican Border wall and fighting illegal immigration. That speech was trumps most comprehensive yet on his signature issue. Let me tell you about my plan. Reporter tell he did for an hour and 15 minutes. Much was familiar but on the topic of deportation, something new i am going to create a newin special Deportation Task force, focused on identifying and removing quickly the most dangerous criminal illegalim immigrants in america. Reporter thats an important shift, as in this speech in i florida last year, previously trump pledged to deport every undocumented immigrant. Were going to take people that are here illegally, and were going to move them out. Got to move them out. Reporter but last night, ths republican nominee said he would target only some those who commit crimes and those who overstay their visas. There are at least two million criminal aliens now inside the country. We will begin moving them out day one. Reporter this leaves the question of what happens to everyone else millions of others here illegally who havent committed crimes since arriving. Trump answered the question two ways. First, he said, those who stay,h will remain outside the law. For those here today illegally who are seeking legal status, they will have one rout and only one route to return home and apply for reentry. Reporter but later, near the end of the speech, trump indicated that someday thatth could change. In several years, when wehe have accomplished all of our enforcement and deportation goals and truly ended illegal immigration for good including the construction of a great the construction of a great wall then and only then will we be in a position to consider the appropriate disposition of those individuals who remain. S that discussion can only take place in an atmosphere in which illegal immigration is a memory of the past reporter trump also launched a new plan to limit all legal immigration, proposing aro commission with these goals. To keep immigration levels, measured by population share, within historical norms, to select immigrants based on merit, skill and proficiency and to establish new immigration controls to boost wages and tod ensure that open jobs are offered to American Workers first. Reporter the speech brought repeated, thunderous applause in the arena, but in the aftermath multiple members of trumps Hispanic Advisory Council resigned from the group. Today, democratic Vice President ial nominee tim kaine slammed the speech as anti immigrant. It is a deportation nation and theyre all criminals ande theyre doing terrible things that is not going to make our country great. Reporter kaine also charged that trump choked in yesterdays meeting with mexican president pena nieto by not repeating his demand that mexico pay for a border wall. For the pbs newshour, im Lisa Desjardins. Ifill Digging Deeper into the politics and policy of thehe immigration debate, we turn to kris kobach, the kansas secretary of state who helped author Donald Trumps immigration policy, Marielena Hincapie, the executive director of the National Immigration lawo center, and karthick ramakrishnan, associate dean of the school of Public Policy at university of california riverside. He writes extensively on immigration issues. Ramakrishnan, how did immigration end up being or at least appear being central to this politicalei debate right n . Well, it all started with the launch of Donald Trumps campaign. It was a signature issue. It was a thing that got him a lot of attention, some would say a lot of negative attention int the beginning, but he used that publicity and notoriety to jump to the top to have republican heap and has never looked back sense. Ifill Marielena Hincapie, how do you interpret Donald Trumps approach . I think donald trump is atrd very smart man who knows how to use the media and hes using immigration as a wedge issue. U he understands that there are lowwage, white voters, for example, who are feeling a lot of economic distress and a lot of economic pain and, rather than focusing on the true issues, which is that those workers deserve a living wage, collective bargaining, safety net programs, he instead is using their fear of the other, their fear of immigrants and scapegoating immigrants and fear mongering in order to get elected. Ifill kris kobach, she said a lot of things there. I want to start about the part about who he is speaking to. Who is his audience . You know, i think hese speaking to northwestern people generally. Last night in his speech, he was talking about putting american interests first, whether talking about resource or crime, and to the point that was just maded about speaking to individuals who are competing with illegal labor for those jobs and are seeing wage depression in their workplace. Illegal immigration, the impact of it falls disproportionately upon africanamerican u. S. Citizens and hispanic u. S. Citizens and legal immigrants of hispanic ethnicity. Ic so, you know, really, hes talking in terms of the wage depression effect of illegal i immigration h hes talking to individuals who are often not white, and i think this is part of broadening the base, making the point that you know your wages have suffered becauser of illegal immigration, i want to do something about it. Ifill professor ramakrishnan, how often is an immigration debate about economics and how much is it, as Marielena Hincapie was saying, is about fear mongering . Its a little of both. Its important to correct the record kris kobach laid out. The National Academy of sciences in a consensus report among social sciences its very difficult to get a con ecensus among social scientists found no evidence this was back in a report 20 years ago and also a more recent report last year no evidence that there is any significant wage depression effect. More generally, when we talk about america being strong, its important to remember that immigrants are americans, too, and, in fact, when youve seen instances like riverside new jersey, for example, whichi passed a law trying to cut down on undocumented immigrants in the city, they actually lost economically. You have cities and states throughout the country that aret trying to get immigrants, including lowskilled immigrants, because they are so vital to sectors like construction and agriculture. Ifill im going to let kris kobach respond to that and then ill get to you, Marielena Hincapie, in a moment. The wage depression effecte has been well researched by economists who look specifically at it and i would note George Borjas overharvard university. Anyone familiar with Industries Like meat packing or hotel Janitorial Service knows those wages have gone down not only in real terms but absolute dollars because of illegal immigration. The point about the economies of places that crack down on illegal immigration, look at arizona and georgia, two states that have cracked down on illegal immigration at the statt level and have everify requirements in place, their economies are booming. So clearly pushing illegal labor out of the labor market does not mean a states economy collapsel and the same is true for the country. Ifill Marielena Hincapie, lets talk about one ofy. The specific proposals in Donald Trumps speech last night where he talked about deportation. Seems like he was talking about eventual, maybe selfdeportation which sounds like something we heard from mitt romney four years ago. How different is his deportation plan, assuming there arehe 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country, how similar is it to what is already in place and what other republican candidates in the past have proposed . I think there are a couple ol things to what trump said last night. One, before the speech yesterday, he appeared to be toning down the rhetoric but, in fact, yesterday he made very clear that not all is 1 millions will be deported on day one. He said within the first hour of his first day of the presidency, he would immediately push to have all individuals and i think he referred to the number 2 million individuals, anyone whos been convicted of crimes and bad people is the way hee refers to immigrants, that theyh would be depored. What that really means in practice, gwen, one, its abextreme position and its an expensive position. In order to deport and have a Deportation Force that would result in the deportation of 11 million immigrants, were w talking about over 60 billion. One of the things in terms of the current policies that many people dont understand is current administration, obama administrations policy is to deport criminal individualsrt with criminal convictions and, in fact, here in los angeles, organizers are fighting the deportation of a grandmother convicted of shoplifting as a misdemeanor over 30 years ago. Rs is that really who donald trump thinks are bad people thatt should be deported . Shes the grandmother of four u. S. Citizen children, shes raising, helping support her family. Ifill let me ask kris kobach about what that happened today. T after his speech last night, several of Donald Trumps Hispanic Advisory Council resigned in disappointmentdi saying they would no longer support him. Are they justified in leaving and what was happened in mexico when there was so disagreement about what was said . W im not familiar with what theyve decided to do. As far as the visit to mexico, you know, i think that was a shrewd move by mr. Trump. He was given an invitation. So his Hillary Clinton. She declined it, at least for the time being. E he took it and said, look, im going to go and talk to the president of our neighboring country and, you know, they hadh an interesting meeting by all accounts. We dont know exactly what was said, but one of the interesting things i take out of it is theye came out of the meeting and both recognized that Border Security is important and the mexican president seemed to be suggesting that he, too, thought a wall was justifiable. So, you know, thats really interesting. Obviously mr. Trump was in no position to ifill i think everybody agrees about Border Security, democrats, republicans, but we dont have time to debate all that. I want to ask professor ramakrishnan, what is it about a zerotolerance argument thatth seems so effective or at least keeps coming back in our debates about immigration . Well, its important to recognize, gwen, that Donald Trumps position sacksly a minority is actually a minority position not only in the general electorate which he needs to win but even in the republican party. Its apu bit surprising he doubd down on the kind of rhetoric he did early in the primary season. This was a real opportunity for him to potentially pivot and maybe not go as far as many of his advisors were thinking about, but he used the kind of language, and we know in our research on framing, we have a book coming out on framing, and as it involves immigrants, with we know frames using words like amnesty, were talking about thu criminal aspect, which is all the evidence shows, immigrants are much less likely to commitm crimes than the native born, but using that kind of language can fire up the base. He needs to grow that base and im not sure h he did that last night. Ifill professor ramakrishnan, kris kobach and Marielena Hincapie, thank you, all very much. Thank you, gwen. Ifill our analysis of Donald Trumps stance on immigrationgr continues online, where Lisa Desjardins explores his plan, and finds six new, key points from his speech. Thats at pbs. Org newshour. Sreenivasan and now we turn to another voting block in the president ial election, veterans. This week the candidates who are vying to become the nextto commander in chief courted that vote. Both Hillary Clinton and donald trump briefly paused theirus debate over immigration this week to address to the American Legion. As the daughter of a veteran, as a proud american, i am grateful to you all. The men and women of the American Legion represent the absolute best of america. Strength, courage selfless devotion. Sreenivasan the candidates voiced their commitment to veterans

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