Secretary Clinton Donald trump showing us exactly who he is and we should believe him. Complicatednt be that members of the Campaign Staff should not be physically assaulting the press. Nominee is somebody i think is dividing the country, i them. Stand behind secretary Hillary Clinton and i have very strong differences of opinion. The at the supreme court, justices face their first big 44 divide as more to meet thee up president s nominee, Merrick Garland. This week, david sanger of the times, jeff zeleny of cnn, and Joan Biskupic with reuters. Awardwinning reporting and analysis. As it happens. Y live from our nations capitol, is Washington Week with. Wen ifill Corporate Funding for Washington Week is provided by were committed to strong. Sure. Committed to were committed to smart and secure and bold. In a world of enduring needs, and women of boeing are proud to build and deliver critical capabilities for those who serve to protect our nation allies and thats an enduring commitment. Thousands of people came out today to run the race for we asked them, are you completely prepared for retirement . Ok, mostly prepared . Save 1 more of your income . Additional 1 now could make a big difference over time. Im going to be even better saving. You can do it. It helps in the long run. Prudential. Additional Corporate Funding for Washington Week is by genentech. Additional funding is provided foundation,own donating all profits from newmans own Food Products to charity. And nourishing the common good. The ford foundation. Ethics and excellence in journalism foundation. The corporation for public and bysting, contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. You. Once again, live from moderator gwen ifill. Gwen good evening. Collapse. Edges criminal charges are filed. And candidates for president like using phrases absolute train wreck. What made this week different than past weeks . Candidates on both sides of the aisle began to face up to trumpian reality. He is leading in delegates, trailing in the latest polls and nextup wisconsin and he is incredibly unpopular in national surveys. He wont promise to stay in the party if he loses. To pledgecontinue whoever the republican nominee is . Mr. Trump no, i dont anymore. Dont . Mr. Trump no. Gwen trump did accomplish something remarkable, managing to get antiabortion and abortion rights activists to agree on something, that he was wrong when he suggested women if they wereished to have an illegal abortion. His opponents pounced. Commanderinchief and leader of the free world, you dont get doovers, you need to get it right first time. Donald doesnt have any answers. Jobs. Ks about listen, we all agree we want more jobs. Donald, how do we get more jobs america . Thelds answer is, we wave magic wand and sprinkle pixie dust. Pixielets start with dust. Is that what weve come to expect, dan . Dan i dont know if its pixie dust. Think theres a little bit in the last two weeks of the clothes,ot having many at least in terms of trumps ability to either lay out a coherent philosophy or articulate the details of whether its domestic or Foreign Policy issues. It obviously caught everybodys attention on the abortion issue he simply for how far out went in talking about punishment for a woman who has an abortion, quickly he pulled it back and that he had to do two statements to try to get himself of whathin the bounds is acceptable to either side. Talked to today he John Dickerson at cbs and basically said two different things. On one hand, yes, i think the laws should stay as are, on the other hand, abortion is murder. Dan hes looking for a safe soce to talk about abortion today in his interview with john was, this is settled law essentially so theres nothing i can do but when pressed on the question of is abortion murder, yes, he believes it is. But this isnt the only issue, able to explain in a few minutes. So i think hes been through the of hisst weeks candidacy. And what it has done, i think, is emboldened his opponents particularly ted cruz and to some extent john kasich, and all of the people who think there might be a way to prevent him from becoming the nominee. Gwen david, since you had a this being one of the worst two weeks of his candidacy, in your interview purely on Foreign Policy, it felt like he was for straws aping lot of the time. Think thet did and i reason was that as he says himself, hes been in business, buildingsbuilding around the world, hes been the apprentice and when youre doing that, you ort think about alliances Nuclear Weapons so when hes asked about these things, his novo,s are frequently de hes coming to this without any briefings. Usually at this point in a theregn, march or april, are big stacks of briefing books and the candidates supposed to be going through them if they have time. Gwen lets talk about the nuclear part. Was ok he wouldnt rule out using Nuclear Weapons europe. Most president s would not take things off the table but this extreme. He also said it wouldnt bother him if japan and south korea had Nuclear Weapons. Arent we supposed to be moving in the opposite direction . David we are and washington finished two days of Nuclear Security summit that were all to limit both Nuclear Materials and keeping more nations from getting Nuclear Weapons. Was interesting how he got there, gwen. He had not talked about nuclear and when my colleague, aggie abram and i finally got chance to do 100 minutes on Foreign Policy, he started talking, as he has many times to pullabout the need back from our alliance with japan, if they dont pay more. Already pay more than most allies. So what i said to him was, look, that, then japans going to be less certain about our Nuclear Umbrella over them go off to build weapons. Do you have any problem with that . I dont think, based on the answer, that its something he spent much time thinking about before and so he said, i dont have a problem with that. And you saw president obama hard today attty the News Conference at the end summit. Uclear the point ofises what preparation he has. Seemed unaware that roe v. Wade was the law of the land. Of preparation that went into this. Does this raise the prospect of open convention . All mounting evidence that he might not get to the point that he wants to be . Gwen if i can piggyback on that, two weeks ago, republicans seemed like they were coming idea that he might be the nominee, mainstream republicans. But now this week i felt a shift. I think there has been a shift and its psychological in some ways. Be mathematical. Wisconsin has a primary on tuesday. Cruz ahead at ted this point. That could be a psychological not ag point if mathematical one. I think donald trump is somebody instinct andon often his instincts are pretty good, as weve seen in this on these issues, those instincts have failed him and theyve failed him pretty in recent weeks and i think it does create a heightened sense among would wens about what be in for in the fall if he is the nominee and if you get to an convention, i think that table. S even more on the david what is it about wisconsin that might be different . Just that it happens to be voting next week and all of this theyre getting first crack at this or is it Something Different about the what theyveonsin, been exposed, theyre rejecting in some respect. Talk radio is not pro trump in wisconsin. Whats you make of happened to him there . Dan i think there are several factors on wisconsin. One is its an open primary where he normally does well and the opposite occurring. Gwen which means anybody can vote. Dan anybody can vote. Your point on talk radio. Talk radio has been very hard on him. In wisconsin is much more allied with the Republican Party establishment and the Republican Party establishment, as we know from 2010 going 2010 being when scott inker was elected, the party wisconsin has been more integrated between tea party and so there is that cohesiveness but this is a state that ought to be better for it appears to be. Its not the iowa caucuses. More like michigan. And he did well there and hes toing trouble and i think some extent its that cruz has worked the state very effectively but to some extent i has to do with what people are seeing and hearing attacks fromtant talk radio and now Governor Walker whos endorsed ted cruz. Lot building up against him and he hasnt had a good way to conquer it. The things dan just mentioned is what happens with the establishment g. O. P. And trump. How much do his Foreign Policy ideas, to the extent theyre thought through how much did they align with mainstream g. O. P. . David his solutions dont align at all. Some of his prescriptions of hearhas gone wrong, you echoes of in both democrats and republicans. Arabia says that saudi has been not holding up its part, not fighting isis the way forth, its not all that far from barack obama saying that saudi arabia is a free rider which he said a few weeks ago. That president is obama has a way of trying whether it works or not to saudis back into the fold. Immediately donald trump moves an economical clus that calculus, that if you say youll from saudi oil arabia gwen a deal making calculus. David its a deal making calculus for every relationship that ignores or has until now there are other values to alliances, that we put our theps out in asia or in middle east because theres an advantage to us to have them brings deployed, that it us intelligence, it puts us closer to potential trouble it keeps thet peace. Gwen the thing i want to make sure we talk about is one of the is he about donald trump sticks his heels in sometimes and no matter what you cant get and that happened this week when his Campaign Manager was charged with simple up ary for roughing reporter and he would not back down at all. Dan quite the opposite. He doubled down, tripled down. Quadrupled down. Was in janesville, wisconsin, where he had a rally that and he went right at that issue with the audience you couldon one hand say its admirable he wasnt him, he saiddon im not going to ruin his life over this but on the other hand you would think under these circumstances that something would have done in which awandowski would have taken leave of absence. Gwen the instinct is to say, going to do it. Dan he made the allegation that the reporter reached out with a grab him. D to gwen well, next week even democrats cannot resist the lure trump. Bernie sanders and Hillary Clinton are still sparring with becomingr but its clear each would rather train their fire on the person they flawed potential nominee. Po clinton, with her eye on the competition coming up in new released this ad this week. When some say we can solve problems by building walls, banning people based on and turning against each other, well, this is new york and we know better. Gwen sanders has taken a page from trumps book, boasting selectively about polls. Senator sanders what momentum is about is that in poll after poll we are defeating donald numbers doubledigit gwen so, are they battling each other . Or are they looking ahead to the fight, jeff . Jeff yes. First and foremost, they are each other. Ng theres no question that Hillary Clinton is at this moment in time in a lead in delegates but theres also no question that as april 1, this is not where the campaign thought it would be. A joke. Is is not jeff right, its not a joke and they realize its not a joke. The new the night of hampshire primary when she lost New Hampshire so big, a campaign went out around 8 00 p. M. That evening and arrived in our inboxes before she conceded and it was designed to calm any and therepporters were a lot of them that said the inflation is not won in february. Be won inssential march. We are in april and the is still nomination not won. Yes, she has a lead. Far away. Eems so jeff being on the road this week with both candidates in york, youre new struck by both of them are making an electability argument. A foil. Rump is sort of Hillary Clinton is running that ad in new york. Its not as much about donald trump but its about Bernie Sanders. She would not run that ad in new york city, spending the money it in new york ads city if she was not trying to show democrats im the one who can beat donald trump, im the most electable person. His biggest hurdle so far has to convince people to take a leap of faith with me. You kind of like what you see thethe disruption on republican side, lets have a little bit of disruption over here so thats why he talks numbers. Poll i asked him why he was talking about poll numbers. He said people have to know i win and that is the big hurdle here but its interesting to which both are talking about electability but there are tensions in the race. May have seen the video where an environmental activist yesterday asked her a question about why shes accepting money fossil fuel industry. She does accept money from who make their livelihood from these corporations and she said im sick of sanders lying about me so it is tense out there tonight. Joan the question you asked about wisconsin, what makes it distinct about new york. We have thought new york would have been more predictable than this and isnt taking a leap are of faith more than we expected . Jeff not in a long time since 1988 has there been such a competitive New York Primary but she has is suddenly to win new york and every indication right now is that she is leading in new york. Shes up by 12 points or so in most limited polling available but the New York Primary is a closed primary, unlike wisconsin where anyone can pick up a republican ballot or democratic ballot. Its closed, designed to protect so establishment candidate you had to be a registered voter by march 25 if you want to vote april 19 primary. I was at a rally last night in the south bronx. 18,000 people for Bernie Sanders. A question has been is he able attract a Diverse Group of supporters. Last night in new york, he was. Utely its new york city, of course its diverse. 2008. Is is different than in 2008, california, new york, new jersey were at the front end on super tuesday in february. Now the reason he is staying in, all these delegates are still sitting out there, these big states are still to come. Assume for a minute that Hillary Clinton makes a pass in the math here. Youve seen all the excitement, you mentioned including last nights rally. Do those people go . We assume they go to Hillary Clinton. Do they go to Hillary Clinton enthusiasm . Jeff its a great question. The person who may be able to them there may not be Hillary Clinton as much as donald trump should he become the republican nominee. Thats the clinton campaign, they kind of believe people will thinkgainst trump but i the democrats out there who support Bernie Sanders i think will support Hillary Clinton. Hes brought a lot of new people into the system who simply dont like her politics and believe time for a change so there will be a lot of healing to be done, i think more than in 2008. Gwen we had a taste this week the supremee of court, a dispute over Public Employee unions that almost certainly would have been decided if there had been nine justices, ended in deadlock. Circumstance,ual the court appeared to be seeking compromise that would allow them to settle the latest challenge healthcare law. Joan, which of those two was more significant . Labor union case definitely, gwen. But those two incidents you referred to signal that this is a court thats very much on pause and the justices butselves dont like it first, for the union case, this is something that was argued the justicesd when took up this challenge to California Group of teachers who didnt want to have to pay what areay known as fair share fees. Thehey dont want to join union, they still had to pay some money because of the collective bargaining the union do. D challenges on First Amendment speech rights, and the justices asked for this case to come up there because the conservative majority with been chomping had at the bit for this case. It argues in january. Court willke the side with the challengers and say you dont have to pay these fees which would undercut the power of unions. Lo and behold, a month later, february 13. A dies theyre deadlocked and stacks of briefs, they end up issuing a onesentence opinion that says the lower affirmed by a is divided court. And so what stands is the ruling in favor of the unions and thats that. Gwen amazing. How many other 44 cases are way . Ng our joan this is where it gets to justices dont want that. Chief Justice John Roberts would have so many 44 cases. Gwen he didnt like 54 cases. Joan he wanted broader majorities to look like there was more consensus but we have four liberal members and four conservative members so they are whatocked naturally but they seem to be trying to do with the order that gwen the Affordable Care act Birth Control case is to say you litigants, help us compromise here, help us figure out a way that we can we can help usy, help you kind of thing because they dont want that but weve votingrtion coming, a rig