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Government plan to open up the Arctic Ocean for drilling I've had nightmares of people drilling in my ocean I mean I say my I'm talking about my people plus my guests Claire Fox director of the Institute of ideas and Carl Sharon who is an architect satirist and Mideast comic Peter that's after the news. Hello I'm Rosemary Crick with the b.b.c. News China and South Korea have welcomes new United Nations sanctions against North Korea on Saturday the Security Council voted to impose new sanctions on Pyongyang's exports in response to North Korea's testing last month of what it claimed were 2 ballistic missiles the Chinese foreign minister Wang he stressed that punitive action should be a path towards negotiations. Sure. Sanctions are necessary but sanctions are not the ultimate goal our goal is to bring all parties involved in the nuclear issues back to the negotiating table finding a way through talks to realize that the nuclearization of the Korean Peninsula in its Sunday edition North Korea's ruling party newspaper said a sea of fire would end Gulf the u.s. If it attacked the u.s. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson is attending the Summit of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Manila alongside the North Korean foreign minister really on the whole mystery is already in talks with his Chinese counterpart while Mr Tennyson is meeting the South Korean foreign minister from Manila Here's how it Johnson today's gathering presents a rare opportunity for America North Korea to meet face to face talks with the u.s. State Department has already downplayed any chance of that happening in a press briefing this week at Department officials said Mr Tillerson has no plans to meet the North Korean foreign minister in Manila is that the United States will use the forum to persuade partners in the region to force fresh u.n. Sanctions against Pyongyang earlier this week Mr Tillotson said North Korea isn't America's enemy but said that the country was presenting an unacceptable threat which required a response the leading Venezuelan opposition figure Leopoldo Lopez has been returned to house arrest after being held for 4 days in a military prison Mr Lopez had been detained on Tuesday along with another opponent of the government Antonio Ledesma he was released bent to house arrest on Friday President Trump had called for the immediate release. Belgian officials have admitted that they knew in June that Dutch eggs might be contaminated with insecticide the Food Standards Agency said it kept the knowledge secret because it was conducting a fraud investigation into the issue Jessica Macallan reports the veterinary drug fit for a novel can cause liver kidney and thyroid problems in humans and is not supposed to be used on animals destined for consumption how it got into the food supply is now the subject of a criminal investigation in the Netherlands the German agriculture minister also believe somebody deliberately contaminated the produce Dutch authorities have temporarily closed around $180.00 of the country's port and supermarkets in Belgium Germany and the Netherlands have removed eggs from the affected farms from the shelves was their weight the results of tests world news from the b.b.c. a Former president of the European Commission Romano Prodi has warned that Britain will be facing economic suicide unless it's prepared to compromise to reach a Brics it deal in an interview with The Observer newspaper the former Italian prime minister said the Europe wide economic consequences of failure had been heavily underestimated and he said he believed a historical compromise would have to be reached the French authorities are reportedly investigating all $271.00 suspected jihadist middle minute since it returned to the country from war zones in Iraq and Syria in an interview with the newspaper Allision al do demolish the interior minister. Said it was difficult to confirm how many French nationals have been killed fighting alongside Islamic states militants state media in China says Chinese police have arrested 77 suspected fraudsters in the Pacific island nation of Fiji and taken them home in the news agency says those detained were involved in more than 50 cases of Fame and isn't it fraud involving nearly a $1000000.00. In his farewell individual race you saying bolt of Jamaica has failed to win the World title in the 100 metres sprint bolt had source one last victory before retiring from competition but at the World Athletics Championships he came 3rd behind the American Justin Gatlin a man band twice for doping offenses Gatlin was booed by the capacity crowd at London's Olympic Stadium but speaking to the b.b.c. Later Gatlin said he hoped be proud he was that sprint champion he said you same boat but also given him his blessing were rivals on the track we have a right we want to track throughout the years but in the warm air with Jordan we still have a good time the person said to me is Bradley says We work hard but if they say you don't deserve all these moves. I think the border I think before inspire me throughout my year on my career is a great he's an amazing man b.b.c. News. The time now it's 6 o 6 g.m.t. Welcome to Weekend from the b.b.c. World Service with me and on and coming up a little bit later how one Alaskan town feels about the u.s. Government's plans to open up the Arctic Ocean for oil drilling I don't want my seat to get contaminated with oil it's let's take a living hell of a little boy. There is an opportunity coexist together an opportunity for not only in history to thrive but then also the local to reform to the. Let me introduce my 2 guests 1st though Claire Fox's director of the Institute of ideas and Carl Cheryl is an architect a satirist and a Middle East commentator my welcome to both of you thank you for joining us on a Sunday morning now clear one of the projects that you are currently involved in this is a series of prison debates is that right yes we're going into prison. Specifically . Birmingham and we're having a series of very intense debates actually the the prisoners have to do a lot of prep for this. Lots of background readings cross-examined by. Series of judges who will tell have to be hard on them which. I think judges to go in and say they welcome the something do they want to do it and yet they volunteer we did it last year and we were anxious and nervous but I have to say that it was one of the most inspiring things that we did I think the most important thing is the British presence at the moment are an absolute chaos there's been riots we actually did the debates in Birmingham last year there was a riot afterwards but I don't think they were related. This is actually intellectual Pugilism and the most inspiring thing was how seriously the guys took the practice they did they were they were both modest and articulate in equal order and they are you know category b. Prisoners so they're not this is not kind of white collar crime by any stretch of imagination. But they have an aspiration and they want some intellectual stimulation I think the prison could do with a lot more intellectual stimulation there might be a lot less writing Yeah Carl No I said you're an architect and I know you're working on various projects but you've got something really interesting coming up on the satire side I think yeah this weekend so I've been doing you know what I call to myself it's clash of civilizations that. Play on the conflict of interest and West and I'm after a few years of doing it and find. Testing it out and stand up form an atom or on Saturday in summer hall and it's part of assured that combines many other performers over a month it's a cabaret set up in summer hall and you know it's going to be a test whether I came through digital satire and interesting experiment to see if that translates into live performance and I cited about it as somebody who follows call on her on Twitter I think. So brilliantly insightful and for me at the same time I really recommend the book and see the show in that well I would love to ask you about 500 more questions off the back of that but I'm afraid we'll leave it there and yeah I do look out for Karl So now let's begin with one of the big stories this morning the deepening political crisis in Venezuela one of the 1st orders of business of Venezuela's controversial new constituent assembly was to sack the country's chief prosecutor Luis Ortega deepening the political crisis there further Mr taiko he's been a vocal critic of President Nicolas Maduro and the new assembly was prevented from entering her office by the security forces she denounced the government's actions. This is a dictatorship the abuse that's being experienced in Venezuela the repression not only are they arbitrarily detaining people they are prosecuting them with military justice and now they are letting the chief prosecutor enter the head courses now the B.B.C.'s Will Grant He's been reporting from Venezuela in recent years was in Caracas last week to cover the election of the new constituent assembly last Sunday's election was marred by violence with widespread protests at least 10 people were killed he spent reflecting on what may lie ahead now for a divided Venezuela. I write this as the plane sweeps out of Venezuela over its rocket Caribbean coastline and soaring away from the Avalon the majestic jungle covered mountain that separates Caracas from the se behind me I can still make out the shanty towns which creep up the foothills gradually encroaching into the national park when many poor rebuilt their homes after a devastating mudslide left thousands dead in 1909 that was the year over Chavez took power it is hard to know what the late socialist leader would make of Venezuela today his designated successor Nicolas Maduro presides over a country in chaos and in crisis the economy is in ruins inflation rampant corruption in Demick and violence pirating out of control the oil price upon which Venezuela's economy is predicated is comparatively low Chavez enjoyed a boom with which he funded the popular social programs which kept his voters in love with him and his socialist revolution Mr Madoff enjoys no such luxury Venezuela can no longer afford to import basic goods bringing widespread food shortages and long queues protests have become more radical and been met with uncompromising repression from the state. It was against that background that the controversial election for a new legislative body was held as someone who has covered many elections in the us Weyler Chavez used to average one a year this was like no other I have seen their 1st I was pleased to even get in many journalists myself included have been turned away at the airport or denied visas in recent months it was refreshing to once again walk through immigration safe in the knowledge I had the right paperwork in my passport but the vote was odd from the very start the opposition chose to boycott the entire process not wanting to lend it any legitimacy by participating So already we were only talking about a minority turning out to cast their ballots campaigning was almost nonexistent reports reached us of public workers being pressured to turn out one state employee forwarding me a message she had received from her bosses unlike previous votes there was no obvious presence of election observers come the day itself the city was on a knife edge the vote was held in as hostile an environment as I've seen in Venezuela young men and women many of them just children really were manning barricades around the city wearing Baloch lovers fashioned out of t. Shirts motorbike became the most reliable way of getting around the city itself like this slip towards anarchy and the gradual erosion of the rule of law the times Caracas was a ghost town is notorious traffic absent as people prefer to stay in their homes rather than risk running into conflict one night with a Venezuelan friend we went out on the back of a motorbike taxis to go from a small opposition demonstration to a small pro-government one we sped through the city's empty streets weaving past the remnants of broken barricades and the security forces resting against their armored cars are both events we found people tired of the conflict yet unable to bridge the divide between them it all makes for a chaotic and exhausting. Time for Venezuelans from my vantage point on the 20th floor of a hotel I looked out on Caracas on my last night to me it is a beautiful city but Caracas is also a seismic city earthquakes and tremors a common so I leave it once again it strikes me that this disputed boycotted and bitter election will cause ripples and aftershocks through Venezuela's politics and society for many months to come and that was the B.B.C.'s Will Grant reflecting on what's happening there in Venezuela Claire Fox thoughts on Venezuela because my goodness you know how things have changed in just a few years Yeah absolutely and but I think we have you know if you look at the debates currently now in the coverage of it as well I think countries do experience these tumultuous periods you know there's the Tama turmoil of transition economic and political transition but what I find really odd about the way that the it's being covered now and discussed is being you know treated as if it's the final confrontation between free market capitalism and socialism and I think that's completely misleading and I think a lot of people particularly in the West from both sides are placing so much investment into it as if it's going to finally prove or disprove this 2 different ideologies when the reality is in fact much more complicated and it's not at all a straightforward story and these ideological competition can I just as scuse me is that because I mean essentially you had a government to go to a business you know using oil on the free market but then at home you know socialist policies so it's not that one of the other is wrong it's just the way in which the 2 came together I mean I don't know maybe both are wrong but the point is we're not that that condition today where these 2 you know grand ideology is competing on the world stage the reality. Is Vannes Well I was able to sustain a certain amount of policies I mean I resent that they're called populists they're tend to kind of restore the balance the tradition in Latin America favored the rich and I know that because Lebanese immigration to Latin America has been happening for a long time and I have family and friends over there and there's also the other background to it is the American intervention and meddling you know us in particular in Latin America in propping up right wing dictatorship happened for a very long time so there's a there's a very complicated context to how these things emerge and I think my my fear is when it gets internationalized and you start people meddling from the outside it's only going to which we've seen in the Middle East over and over and over again internationalize what would have been contained national contest could be resolved within the boundaries Yeah I mean I think one of things is computing's is that you know Chavez was overromanticized by the West and left actually you know is as a socialist I mean he might or call him self a socialist it doesn't mean that we have to take any notice of that phrase I mean he's much more kind of a Peronist or Bonapartist you know kind of not quite so I think some of the trends with their I mean I don't necessarily think that amatory is kind of betraying the memory of Chavez I mean he's casually the inheritor of that but he may be less objectively f a verbal conditions for him to pull it off in terms of kind of the domestic world and I think the calls got a real point I mean it's this summit but there's something slightly unsavory about what's now happening which is that you know Venezuela issue has been used to kind of redefine and have an argument in the British Labor Party about whether Jeremy Corbin supports him or not the Tories bashing Corbin but then also some of the anti Corbin labor rights kind of Blairites also being a little bit using me do you think you know it's not all about you I mean talk about a kind of narcissism. When you're trying to understand something that's happening internationally and they were going to only discuss themselves in relation to it is then the complicated it is absolutely to be condemned there and I do think that there is a kind of obvious what it is that the has been a certain apologists and insect into the Labor Party which I think that the Left needs to just ditch and get rid of and I know that when I was criticizing Chavez a few years ago I mean people were saying to me say use it so you want to betray the revolution in support CIA I could use him as a bit like God if you reduce politics to that kind of simplistic nonsense of women ever going to understand anything I think a bit more sophistication a little bit more modest in trying to understand what's going on is required here Claire Karl thank you very much you're listening to the b.b.c. World Service I'm on and with weekend and a reminder of our main headlines this morning China and South Korea say they hope a new u.n. Sanctions on North Korea will pave the way for talks with Pyongyang will be talking a bit more about North Korea's nuclear program and where those talks and sanctions are going but let's turn to Germany now because a new equal marriage law means that same sex couples should be able to get married from October until now is only civil partnerships that were available and they lack some rights it's not necessarily equal though for all gay parents and with German elections due in September the issue is still a political one Damian McGinnis reports now from Berlin. Summer in Berlin a time of gay street festivals lesbian lover club breakers Passy with flamboyant drag queens well contented looking middle aged couple sitting on benches sipping beer and this year the something very special to celebrate equal marriage I found Look listen we're just happy that we're no longer seen as inferior until now we always have this feeling of being worthless that's hopefully now over Europe has been in a civil partnership with Patrick for 10 years and they have 2 young children even a family. We are a family what's known as a rainbow family and now we are hopefully finally a completely normal family one day we will be able to say to our children that we are completely normal parents like everyone else but for some gay parents the law doesn't go far enough if a woman in a same sex marriage has a child for example her partner is not automatically a legal parent so a harrowing and intrusive adoption process is the only option it can take years and during that time she has no parental rights says Constanza coner from the gay rights group ls v.d. As of your destiny need to have the possibility that things can be regulated legally the full conception regardless of what it is a

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