I've had many many meetings I was going to the other side of my life which is the business side of the car and you know it's mostly men in those rooms and and obviously I you know I'm a huge advocate of equality and you know yes I think it's women definitely have a long way to go to have you had a good summer and everything about the royal wedding a mock me Oprah Winfrey when there were dresses I definitely felt very very privileged to have a man and Oprah come to me and asked for me to make those dresses for them it's always a joint effort when you're working with that kind of you know magnitude of women but it was great they wanted British designer to and female to trust them for about Kazan and you know I just want them to be happy. She's in Sussex back in Moscow as she was or what point did you get the call you were going to be making her going away dress which she called her 2nd wedding dress actually. 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So is it reasonable to expect children to be able to tell a fact from fake news David Spiegelhalter professor of risk at Cambridge University and I've travelled to 3 continents to see some remarkable projects which are aiming to do just that they develop with the thinking over that you are doing as children need not need to think they don't take things for granted and kids are sucking these lessons up my brother he likes to make of statistics and I am continuously asking him where he got his evidence and he starts to stammer and I continuously proven wrong 3 or more adding. Join me as I watched you learn to become the 1st far will against the facts if you can handle the truth coming up after the news. B.b.c. 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Envoy for Yemen says he's continuing to hold negotiations to try to keep the poor to plan for a deliveries Hussein. Who thinks spokesman told the b.b.c. The Who things would continue to fight to defend their ground is the only way. To tell you that it's serious and headed up of an immediately controlled to fight back the Saudi that a coalition attack on the data so I'm sure the whole art world they're in. There and they will do all it takes to fight to the city and it was. B.b.c. News the Venezuelan government has released another 43 opposition politicians are not versts bringing the number of people freed in the last few days to 123 it's been reported that among those released today was Villa care for Nanda is a student activist leader arrested in 2016 the head of the Constituent Assembly said the gesture was aimed at improving dialogue the Nigerian police have granted permission for the country's human rights commission to carry out an independent dollars of police cells the commission will also assess the human rights situation of police detainees Haiti is permanently banned the British aid agency Oxfam from operating in the country following allegations of sexual misconduct by the charity star of after the 2010 earthquake the Haitian government says the decision was taken because of Oxfam's violation of the country's legislation and serious breach of the principle of human dignity Here's our American senator Nicholas rupture a Haitian government minister of your floor said a draft law was being prepared to provide closer control over the many foreign charities operating Haiti Orks farm for its part issued a statement apologizing to the people of Haiti and repeating that the behavior of some former staff had been acceptable. State will goes on to mention measures Oxfam has taken to prevent a recurrence in Haiti or anywhere else Oxfam has come under intense scrutiny in Britain since the allegations emerged earlier this year u.s. Space officials say a vast dust storm has engulfed a quarter of the surface of Mars forcing the solar powered Opportunity rover into a dormant state they say they're extremely concerned that the 6 where you are the robotic Explorer has shut down almost all its functions and is no longer responding to commands Martian dust storms can last for months b.b.c. News. I'm David Spiegelhalter professor for the public understanding of risk at Cambridge University and you're listening to you can handle the truth of the b.b.c. World Service. Over the next hour I'm going to take you to schools around the world to see how well children can learn to test the truthfulness of a claim. When someone tells you that some drug use and then the flu got better if somebody said that to you or you and. I would think very carefully did you for taking that just and turn that cream into a research question and meet the scientists of the future. My name is Elizabeth and how old are you going to school I'm a news this year I'm making. You know world of information overload all manner of media lives what is truth and what is a title adults get fooled all the time so is it reasonable to expect children to be able to tell a fact from what has come to be known the world over as fake news. That they. Would make 2 groups and give them the filing she meant and not to tell them that she meant so that they could make fair. Yeah yeah that's what you do you do a proper a proper study. What Elizabeth is describing is a randomized trial the gold standard of scientific research and an impressive concept to grasp in primary school. But what she. Doesn't realize is that she has been part of a randomized trial herself one that is life and death implications in a country where sometimes dangerous practices of traditional healers are not so uncommon. I'm here with a primary school on the outskirts of Kampala in Uganda which is at the center of a multi movement to teach children the kind of critical thinking skills that are necessary in the modern world where increasing. By claims that may or may not be true. If it is right 35 years. Was that every little thing. Was that city. These are the children of Caray cut s.t.i. Primary school they're part of this educational experiment to assess how well children can learn critical thinking skills. There are about 40 or so students packed into the classroom which now also provide shelter from one of Uganda's rainy season outposts what you have going on if they listen number one whatever it was that. I. Will say I was what is the message but I realized it was a good thing imo for the children to doing a lesson from an experimental teaching tool the informed health choices and book it's being taught by the science teacher Mr Coates a Christopher mosts. Is there for you to know that the claim is that a lady who was you know that from a bad beat basis these lessons are designed to teach children as young as $9.10 m. How to spot unreliable medical claims a useful skill in a country where the practice of witchcraft still persists and dodgy medicines are routinely peddled the lessons of mostly in English but incorporate the local language of Luganda the was. Or was and also Swahili was more. I'm looking for. The key teaching tool as a vividly illustrated textbook written in the style of a comic it features several recurring characters John and Julie the protagonists profess a compassion and profess a fan who explain what is considered a credible claim and what isn't. And pursue a troublemaking power he repeats everything he is the sort of avian room of Mungo the as it were the kids old love Kazuki. Was actually at the back of the classroom to leave him alone and learning about how to crash was. The made by which the. Was there in the story being taught in front of me John get suburban I'm his told cow dung will heal it was was a was it was the was that I knew. That he was was. Correct Sta is one of $120.00 schools which took part in this huge randomized trial the 1st of its kind anywhere in the world to see if children can be taught how to evaluate claims for this program I've been to classrooms on 3 continents to witness different approaches to teaching these skills. And the 1st thing that struck me is the kids relish the whole idea of being able to detect a false claim when it's presented to them people who think they are free whenever they hear a claim they were already asking the basis for that what would that really. Tell you know if it is oh this is Ok of course having a motivated teacher helps to electic me of those materials very much as it should when you learned to think they don't take things for granted cert sounds like these lessons to be considered an essential life skill to train me a person to be silly free lance that when. You decide which you ask yourself. Is what about to do right or wrong and if it is a right Ok how easy to write if it is wrong what has made it to be wrong and children pick up on this message with confidence and clarity the nearly 10 year old Elizabeth gave me an example of how she can mail assess claims she hears all around her neck oh I was just announced on a radio yet it was that person who I know instead just wanted to get me. He wanted people to buy y. T. He had so people try to sell medicines and they say it will cure you yes they do in order to get money that's useful to be able to ask whether it really works do you think you'll remember this when you get older you say we'll. Because this has been one of my jesting books and this means this yes. As a statistician I've spent my professional life teaching people to look for the truth the numbers so I was thrilled to see the children soak up these lessons with such enthusiasm this extraordinary research project has been years in the making and is not finished yet it required developing new teaching materials creating methods to evaluate the progress of not only 10000 students but that teachers and parents as well and they didn't rely on just number crunching the team which led the project became comic book illustrators and podcast produces in the process it was their composition you heard at the beginning of the program Good Morning Good Morning I'm done yell Semakula in America such a hear good morning and balanced signs enemy recess ahead McCain gave us to quickly develop signs Daniel an alum of the 2 research is leading this project in Uganda I met them in their office a converted double sided garridge surrounded by grass and exotic plants on a bank full but not a tree near the Macquarie University campus a rather different view from the one eyed my window in Britain however there are some similarities in our offices the place is overflowing with papers the fine reasons of tests from the informed health choices trial which that team had to administer and analyze. Their aim is to find out through rigorous scientific analysis if children can be taught to question the barrel of messages that are a constant presence in the world around them there is a lot of news in the papers under radio these a lot of things that have being said on loudspeakers in the road with health systems people are able to walk into a pharmacy and get anything that they can come across their people that were applying medicines that are used for treatment of animals to treat certain conditions if people are unable to critically think through these decisions then we are in a situation where some lives could even be lost and even if it changes just one person it actually makes a huge difference the objective is to teach children some key concepts such as to be able to check the reliability of a claim about a medical treatment to know what is good evidence for the efficacy of a treatment and to use information about potential benefits and harms to make informed health choices I thought these were very sophisticated concepts to teach to 10 year olds how did you have the idea that this could be done 1st of all we thought that this was very important for people generally speaking to learn about these you know we had challenges you know even working with some models so we said you know can we try out kids can chew brain get. In fact we were not sure so the question you're asking isn't for very much but all the research question was asking country would rain gets. You know what it's won so that question the team created this extraordinary project a randomized trial involving over 10 players and students across the schools of kampung. The numbers had to be so large because randomized testing requires 2 groups of participants 120 schools were split at random into 2 groups the 1st 16 got an intervention in this case extra educational instruction given to both the students and the teachers the other 60 schools did not as the nearly 10 year old Elizabeth explained It's the most scientific way of measuring the effect of an intervention. And if you think organizing this many schools in the city the size of camp policy settings like a mammoth task you'd be right as you can imagine these 120 schools spread across 4 districts that's about 200 kilometers. In every direction in addition we didn't know where most of these schools were are and because we're in the context where you just don't send an email to a head teacher and expect them to get back in touch with you we had to personally I arrange to visit all those schools physically but before they could do any of that the teaching tools have to be cleared through official channels we needed to look at the material and fame go to the dematerialize appropriate before they took them out for the side show. Sharon Otago works for the Uganda national curriculum development center once the government approved these materials for testing She also ordered to their effects in the classroom you could see how to The reason out how to children talk about that claims and then they will ask what is the basis of your clearly even if you could hear them actually they had developed that critical thinking in school and interesting there was also a set of needs because they could speak about it they become So I said even saying no is your claim of reliable. That's assertiveness over potential Fort presented Alan Daniel with a specific cultural challenge he needs surely very worried about children starting to ask questions in a society like ours where children are not supposed to ask such questions but remain submissive until a certain age your father's house but at least as a child you're not supposed to be asking any questions or 10 or 10 what we have found doing this is that the parents are actually very happy with the sort of questions that the children are asking they haven't felt offended in any way and as much as we felt that would have been an adverse effects of children challenging authority we haven't had any actual events being reported. READY READY RINGBACK READY READY READY READY because i know. At least for me kept me you know we're. Going to be our cues courts the kids. Never really. Professor Nelson 7 Campbell is the former principal of the College of Health Sciences of Macquarie University he's supervising alum and Daniel's Work Health Choices project and is something of a rock star scientific. Research is in Uganda specifically for caring universities are at the forefront of randomized testing programs to measure the efficacy of a choice Vietri it was taught to so one can by who pioneered this was because the Aids epidemic started to ravage the local population back when the sickness was still referred to as the slimming to say. When they make struck this concrete in the eighty's it started. One of the these drugs in. One of the things were struggling with is how and We's prevent these diseases from spreading and so we needed to run or my eyes grow study did you randomize communities or individuals we're under my communities so it's like the informed health choices project rendezvous in schools that's right the connection is more than coincidental dental Semakula is a qualified medical doctor who worked on some of Nelson someone combo's later trials and it was Daniel's work with his own h. I.v. Patients which convinced him not only of the need for young people to have good critical thinking skills but of the rigorous scientific measurements that would be vital in order to prove