In Canyon City for questions or comments please call 719-473-4801 during regular business hours you can always become a member of k. Or c.c. By going to King or c c dot o r g and making your financial contributions safely on line. B.b.c. World Service at 6 hours g.m.t. Welcome to Weekend with Judy a more. News the Palestinian group Hamas says it has agreed a ceasefire with Israel after the latest upsurge of violence in Gaza coming up this hour the British government has made it to the end of another week of dramas I've never seen the atmosphere so toxic as it is today and after 20 years of conflict a speech deal between Eritrea and Ethiopia there is that's. Been happiness and butterflies that they're all enjoying and it can give small room for fear we will ask what obstacles remain between those 2 countries and here with me for the whole program my 2 guests risk expert Sally leaves and writer and editor Justin quirk That's all here on this edition of Weekend. First the world news. 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News with Rosemary Creek the Palestinian group Hamas says it has agreed a cease fire with Israel after an upsurge of violence in the Gaza Strip Israel has not commented on the deal but the ceasefire is reported to be holding on Friday the Israeli military launched a wave of attacks after one of its soldiers was shot dead on the border 4 Palestinians are said to have been killed he is James Reid the Israeli soldier is the 1st to be killed in or around Gaza since the last war in 2014 Israel's response was swift and heavy it said it struck 60 military targets and destroyed 3 Hamas battalion headquarters the upsurge in violence came after another Friday of Palestinian protests along the border Egyptian security officials are reported to be talking to both sides to stop the confrontation escalating earlier the un Envoy General of urged everyone to step back from the brink saying those who want to provoke another war must not succeed President Juan Manuel Santos of Colombia has welcomed to form a far cry bills to Congress at the opening of the new parliament the forecast 5 senators and 5 members of the House of Representatives as part of the peace deal reached in 2016 but 2 former commanders did not attend Nicholas Russia has the details president said he was happy to see former rebels who fought the state for over 5 decades now respecting the Constitution and the country's laws the president who insists on of his next month urged the new legislators and his successor to defend peace in Colombia Missa Dukie wants to prevent former rebels from sitting until they're investigated for crimes committed during the Civil War The Us film director James Gunn has been sacked by Disney for offensive messages posted on Twitter up to 10 years ago the old tweets by the Guardians Of The Galaxy director include jokes about rape and paedophilia James Gunn will not be on volved any further in the making of the 3rd film in the god. Of the galaxy franchise Peter both these reports from Los Angeles according to Alan Horn the chairman of Walt Disney Studios the offensive attitudes and statements discovered on James guns Twitter feed were indefensible and inconsistent with the studio's values the director has apologized he said his words of nearly a decade ago were at the time totally failed and unfortunate efforts to be provocative the posts which have since been deleted were brought to light by the conservative Web site The Daily Caller and widely shared Facebook has suspended another data collection firm from using its site while it investigates claims that Crimson Hexagon may have been using people's information to build surveillance tools using Facebook data for surveillance is against the site's policy Crimson Hexagon says it did not attain any data inappropriately Facebook suspended British and Canadian based analytic families for similar reasons Well news from the b.b.c. The Spanish conservative people's policy is due to select a new leader to replace Marianna record who is retiring after being ousted as prime minister in a confidence vote last month the former deputy prime minister Soraya sath a day son to Maria is running against the 37 year old congressman public because Sunday he would take the party further to the right. Cuba's Lawmakers are expected to approve a new constitution later today which will then be put to a public vote the sweeping reforms would see private property recognized for the 1st time since 1976 and the state's control of the economy would be just a plea reduced same sex marriage could be legalized from Havana will grant reports the new president canel is seeking to preserve the Seychelles character of the Cuban revolution or boosting the long stagnant economy on the island Nevertheless state and military run entities will remain dominant in Cuba that much has been made repeatedly clear by both Raul Castro and President d.s. Canal in the lead up to this point are the key changes in the introduction of a prime minister to the Cuban political system dividing the rows of head of state and head of government and the imposition of term limits on the presidency of 2 consecutive 5 year term. Raul Castro who is $87.00 remained as the leader of the Cuban Communist Party when he stepped down as president this year and headed the commission which drew out these changes investigators examining how 17 people died when That's who are signed Khana lake in the u.s. State of Missouri have appealed for witnesses to send in their videos they will also examine why the amphibious boat was on the water despite a weather warning the United States has agreed to give Ukraine $200000000.00 to strengthen its defense capabilities Washington has now given more than a $1000000000.00 in defense to ports as a key since Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 b.b.c. News. It's 6 minutes past 6 g.m.t. Welcome to Weekend from the b.b.c. World Service with me Julia Morecambe coming up the latest from Nicaragua as violent protests within the last thing in the elect the woman who was shot in the stomach and the hip. If. He was fighting for African country. That has done much injustice in a good hour you'll hear more from Nicaragua in this half hour with me throughout the program the managing director of new risk limited Sally leaves and Justin quirk writer editor and cultural strategist Sally one of your main jobs at new risk when I was preparing companies for a risk of some sort of security or worse what kind of work specifically do you do with company yes well for many years and it's very interesting because. We work with conferences and other groups around the world to bring together senior. Organizers of companies so it might be chief executives heads of security information security to see how prepared they are for breakdowns in their operations and of course cyber The dependence on cyber now means I'm looking to see where the people can even run degraded operations because we're seeing around the world what we call harbored warfare cyber is highly deniable by countries that are hostile and there's a lot of probing of critical infrastructure a lot of to looking at trying to cut off energy interfere with water interfere with belief in government all of this is happening and other companies ready for it and I am not finding around the world a flexibility of the companies to look at what systems they have that are going to survive serious nationwide attacks we've seen Tice of these attacks most of the people around the world aged 20 or over think they've got private data but most of that doubt has already gone so what should a company be doing but most of them are not at the moment to try and counter that unfortunately they're not identifying the their significant dependence on connection to the Internet or their significant dependence on energy those 2 things are the critical things they'd. Don't have backup plans they don't have systems that are connected that they can bring in they don't look at other companies to help service and even from other countries there is no contingency that the very severe losses that all of our government security agencies know can happen so it means companies are not able to look after the populations and their stakeholders and supply chains that are other vulnerable parts because as the companies have got stronger and they are paying billions for their computer security the supply chains are now being attacked. Just in we start we talked at the start of the program about one book project of yours I want to look at another one and this is called nothing but a good time a cultural history of heavy metal how much fun is that to research it's an enormous way simply just picking through my childhood that's a huge exercise in culled from the style just so the starting point for the book was this was the dominant news for me eighty's 83 to 91 is very tightly bookended. And then it completely collapse under its own whites and it appears to be the one form of music which is completely immune to any sort of serious critical rehabilitation and nobody will go back and look seriously at you know Van Halen or . And that was the starting point the book was out well why not because we take pretty much every other genre is capable of being so very assessed and looked at seriously in this way and so the idea that you could tell the story of America's cultural decade through this form of music and retell that story you mention Def Leppard because there may well be doubters listening so let's have a listen to Def Leppard remembered and see if they're converted here we go. I think you selected that track carefully to make sure that nothing was said on it that that should be broadcast I was I carefully screened the lyrical content and had the nothing and nothing went out sensitive areas and when you look at the culture of it I mean you hinted at this a moment ago but is this slowly being rehabilitated is this something we can now look back at to learn lessons from I mean how far can you take this it's not yet but I think where it maybe is where something like this guy was 15 years ago you know 15 years ago this guy was a sort of shorthand for this sort of cultural cringe of the seventy's and paranoid on clothes and flares and and over the last 15 years that's been completely bought in from the cold to the point where it's now recognized as being a document of this incredibly interesting period Sotto culturally you know Barry gave the babies had long Glastonbury last year and was you know right making raised as a songwriting genius you know 15 years ago he was walking off chat shows he was being mocked by the host so these things can turn around but I think there's there's an analog there of where where his position is at the moment but he can try and just encourage with me Sally leave me is with me as we try and track what is going on with Britain and Breck's it it's becoming hard to keep track of the difficulties facing the British prime minister to resign May as she tries to deliver the outcome of the BRICs it referendum so let's have a look back at the last few days on Monday the government just about managed to get a bit of its bricks at legislation through parliament but only after offering concessions to rebellious Brecht's it is and that made the other wing of the governing Conservative Party fear ias on Tuesday a vote leave one of the main campaign groups in the e.u. Referendum was found to have broken electoral law then comes Wednesday. When the former foreign secretary Boris Johnson said the prime minister had yielded to a fog of self doubt and was heading for a disastrous form of bricks it then on Thursday the government's chief whip faced louder and louder calls to resign after it emerged that he'd broken parliamentary convention to get a vote passed and then on Friday the e use chief negotiator Michel Barnier raised some serious questions about the British government's proposals and plans were announced to issue advice preparing households and businesses for a no deal Breck's it nor Patten worked with 3 prime ministers and now sits in the Lords as a Conservative peer and he summed up the mood of many at Westminster I've never seen the atmosphere so toxic as it has today and I've never seen a conservative party so marginalised on the big issues and I've never seen so much animosity in the Conservative party I've never seen the nationalist right so rampant as they are today so I want all those grassroots. Credit card go on holiday shortly integrating enthusiastic spirit our political correspondent Rob Watson is on the line Welcome Rob this word toxic is it one that you recognise me as 1st of all hello Julian Hello Sally and Justin and everybody listening I was thinking if you want to think about British politics at the moment here in makes heavy metal seem like chamber music I'm trying to think of a music musical way of getting through to everyone I'm going to begin by answering the question Julien by quoting another m.p. Not just any old m.p. But a rather charming m.p. Called Nicholas Soames the grandson of Winston Churchill and he tweeted last this week I don't think in my 35 years as an m.p. That I have ever known such a truly unpleasant and deeply uncertain time in the house and he tweeted it on the hash tag so very difficult to see a way ahead sorry it's a winge but it's true. I have to say I covered the last big European bust up in the Conservative party when I was a man slee young Julian of course early 99 he's over my strength and this is much nastier than that so much nasty you know Conservative M.P.'s talk to me about each other using words that I cannot repeat on a family show on the World Service but let me say that they question each other's parentage and sanity in which case how remarkable is it that the prime minister continues to be the prime minister it is remarkable although I do think that this week she came that close to the twin disasters of British politics and that is number one losing control of your party I think she is very very close to that and she has a mentally close also to losing control of parliament let me throw something else into the mix and broaden this out a little bit the opposition Labor Party is also in a state of absolute chaos as well particular over the European issue where it's hard left leader Jeremy Corbin as it is in a very different place to most of his M.P.'s who are much more moderate and he would much prefer Britain to stay in the European Union so it's a pretty toxic mix at the moment and by the way Julian it's really why I now think that Britain crashing out of the European Union without a deal is probably the most likely option other than just having to stay and I say that because it's very difficult to see a deal that would appeal to the sort of disparate The 6 the 650 M.P.'s across all the various parties Rob stay there because I want to bring Sally in just in to talk to you directly but also in the studio with me is Kirsten Lytle who's the u.k. Correspondent for the German paper handles black Kerstin Welcome good morning what do your readers make of what is happening here at the moment. Well I think the German public is still very interested in what happens around it and what happens in the u.k. But to be honest I think we're a little bit puzzled what is going on here the prime minister came back from checkers with the proposal everyone agreed on and 48 hours later 2 important ministers of a cabinet resigned so it doesn't seem to be a straight Well it doesn't seem to be a proposal everyone can work with. So I think the Germans have a very high opinion of the British and the British government and the British people but I think the fighting and the last months have done sometime it puzzled is quite a gentle word I've read one or 2 other little quotes from for example soon tortured so I took him the prime minister and his ministers are becoming jokes cross the border to France Liberace on is being pretty well it's not it's not holding back let's put it that way is there more of a sense of perhaps more than being mystified but actually being quite annoyed with what you want to be honest since I'm living in this country and the British are supposed to be really really polite I try to adapt and try to take on a little bit politeness but yes I think it's true it is chaos right now here for fall out of the views of Germans so I thought from Sally and just in the rubble come back to you Sally how does it look to you I mean as a risk as a risk expert what risks do you see here well I think the British government hasn't is and always has been talking to itself and that that's the issue Europe has has a lot to gain from breaks it it's got global corporations big economic potential take from Britain its own defense posture and potentially a much more integrated and cohesive. Our federation of nations Britain needs to understand that and start to say well what's our economic warfare plan for fighting sort of the global or sort of economic effects that are going to happen what's going to be our defense and intelligence operation and how we're going to keep vital goods going to the public come back on that idea that the e.u. Gains from the u.k. Getting out of the way perhaps because Sally you are implying that the u.k. Doesn't see the e.u. In the same way as its other member nations or no I think the u.k. Has been inward looking right where is Europe's had its own goals and those goals are going to push ahead because Britain has been trying to put the brakes on right a lot of these European initiative just wanted to clarify that I was in the way I don't have to disagree you know I think the e.u. Is the whole European project used to be a project which combines different different opinions in different countries and different societies so I think the press is a big loss for for the u.k. As well as for the you Justin. It's just hard to get past this idea that we just start I mean this is a essentially civil war within the Conservative Party which has been going on for at least mine tired of life in these 2 competing wings of the party no party of his have a clear position on this I was you know the You Gov figures this week you know half the public's either not been following this story carefully they don't know what the public what party my positions are I think you know so much 14 percent of voters know what Labor's stance on breaks it is and it feels like it's like watching a car turn to a 3 point turn in a space small in whichever way it moves into bangs into something again and but the problem is while it's doing that the clock is running down on us leaving Europe you know and that's the risk that cataclysm emerges when inertia has taken hold Rob cast your mind forward a few I'm going to say weeks perhaps days would be wiser I mean what lies ahead for to resume a in the very near future as another hurdle if they exist Ok look I'm going to come to that in a 2nd but I was frightfully remiss Julian I thought you forgot to answer the last question which is why is she still there so very briefly on that one because the Conservative Party can't think of someone better if they could she be out quicker than well you know was and also because most Conservative M.P.'s are terrified of a government led by a hard left person like Jeremy Korb and also plenty of agreement with everything you've also said in the studio I think you've been frightfully gentle about just how much of a crisis anyway to your question Julian I think that the date to look out for is October the 18th drumroll Why is that that's because that's when Britain and the European Union are supposed to agree at an e.u. Leaders meeting that that that sort of future relationship that the relationship which is proving so controversial to get an agreement and of course the crisis may come before that but it seems to me and meant slowl