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Cade's the British prime minister Theresa May is holding a range talks with European leaders in a last ditch attempt to save her breakfast deal she's admitted that the British Parliament would have rejected the agreement if she'd gone ahead with the voters planned today she's asking the Dutch and German leaders for reassurances about the backstop the legally binding contingency plan to avoid restoring a hard border in Ireland Here's Robinson I think it's very difficult to see this any other way that the credibility of all 40 of both governments being stretched is a very breaking point I mean to March all of your M.P.'s to the top of the hill to say this is the best deal that you could possibly get the European Union will not reopen negotiations and uncivil away I mean it's hard to see that as anything other than a humiliation but here's the thing what is worse the sort of humiliation that she has faced today or defeats allies and I guess it shows what she would consider the lesser of 2 evils early results from 5 state elections in India suggests the opposition Congress party may have taken control of at least 2 states from the governing b j p These include Raja Stan and Jill were giving reports results are still coming in but they suggest significant damage to the b j p in key and populous states if so what that mean for crucial national elections next year well some analysts say people vote differently at state and national level and that's partly true but others say issues of rural discontent such as unemployment lack of development and farming distress could affect ballots next year too at the very least it would be a very visible setback for the bee j.p. Which had steadily increased its state footprint since coming to office more than 4 years ago only gibbering reporting the United Nations says it will need to raise 4000000000 dollars next year to provide aid for $20000000.00 people in Yemen 70 percent of the population a senior u.n. Official marked local Koos just visited stressed the importance of the Red Sea port her data in the ongoing effort to deliver relief supplies will news from the b.b.c. . The u.s. Space agency says it has detected the 1st signs of significant melting in the glasses of East Antarctica NASA says the findings suggest the eastern part of the frozen continent is now being affected by warmer ocean currents eating into its last years until now this had been her observed mainly in West Antarctica melt water from the continent affects global sea levels at least 4 members of Afghanistan's main intelligence agency have been killed in an attack just outside the capital Kabul 6 others have been injured security sources have blamed a suicide bomber a man who allegedly planned to attack a synagogue in the United States has been charged in the state of Ohio Damon Joseph was arrested when he went to collect a semiautomatic assault rifle from a federal undercover agent the authorities said he was inspired by the Islamic state group and had spent months planning to kill worshippers a Chinese court has ordered apple to stop selling some older models of its i Phone because of patent breaches involving the microchip make a call com The ruling is part of a global patent dispute between the 2 u.s. Companies that involves dozens of lawsuits in a number of different countries. And 3 church bells taken as water fees from the Philippines by American soldiers more than 100 years ago have been returned to the country a ceremony was held at an air base in the capital Manila our correspondent Howard Johnson was there there was a round of applause as the bells were removed from their cargo boxes they'd been flown from a u.s. Air base in Arkin our Japan early this morning the bells had once been used to signal the start of a surprise attack by balun eager villages Philippine u.s. War American soldiers retaliated by killing thousands of Filipinos and raising the village today the grandson of a massacre survivor thrilled his wish to kiss the bells we're happy now with America he told me we can finally move on Howard Johnson reporting and that's the b.b.c. News. So let's start off today's program by going for a stroll. It's half past 1 in the morning and you're walking down a long narrow street you're Mesta noise and me on and on I decide there are pubs and bars packed with people that laughing and dancing drinking pushing each other so very good natured or at least it is until it's not. Have you seen any bad things happen history ever to see but enough enough every week really yeah it is quite aggressive on the street yeah I want people get drunk . Every week it's the same way with the night then you will you will see it just so . This is designed over here. The crazy street crazy people are you come back. Of course we go through the love of. Is there a way to reduce violence on the street without getting rid of the nightlife scene altogether the city of Eindhoven is betting that there is an all or most of the people on the street don't realize it they're taking part in a series of high tech experiments to find out what that solution could be. Very sad. Hello and welcome to well tax from the b.b.c. World Service with me Amelia Martin Ambuhl this is the show where we meet the people who just think differently about problems they're willing to try out new ideas to make the world a better place so we track them down to find out more and in today's show we're going to be hanging out in one of Europe's major drinking and partying destinations Stratham signed in Eindhoven that's in the Netherlands this street is 300 meters long it's got 50 pops 10 snack bars and 2 coffee shops but one more stop on any given Saturday night there are about 850 aggressive incidents and around 20 of those liter arrests or detentions are Reporter William Kramer has just been there how was it William it was very interesting I mean yeah you sound a bit ropey So you had a pretty wild night well I've just got a call today not related to more a train word for it but anyway as you were saying in your intro I mean we're talking today about basically alcohol related aggression and short I'm sorry does have this reputation for having a problem with aggressive incidents if I was to ask you what you would do about a street in a town where you have an issue with drunken behavior violent behavior what would you suggest I guess I'd say less drinking few pubs regularly so I'd Haven doesn't want to reduce the number of pubs because no fine Ok more police. They don't really see that so you really think outside the box so what we're going to be hearing about today is basically some gadgets and the City of and have been has come up with some really interesting high tech ways to 1st of all monitor the situation on Stratton's and but also to then tweak the sensory experience of the street and what they're hoping is that these subtle interventions will hopefully help reduce aggression and they call it a living lab because as they come along they're going to gather data analyze the results and at the center of this whole initiative is one man I met him on start and signed at $230.00 in the afternoon when the place was actually a little bit dead there were just a few bars open. Maybe you could just up by introducing yourself yeah I'm King's companies I work for the Local Government should you find out what. My job as management doctor living up sometimes are you going to teach I think it's been Eindhoven art or you know and over and over and if you say I'm. A magician. Magician and this part is kind of perfect because firstly Tina's looks like a magician or wizard He's got long white hair and a thin pointed white beard but also he has a sort of magical power over stratum Zein he's got an office above a pub and on that the walls are covered with t.v. Screens and computer screens and from there he can control and slightly change the street below. And Tina's tonight went for a little one around his demand. Standing at the beginning of the of the now and then the weekend church about 20000 mostly very young people he said on the phone when we talked on the phone you said a lot of people can't get their 1st kiss on this story 1st and the 1st to punch on the notion to get the 1st time drunk and the 1st time. And 1st time you lose your bicycle and you wallet and your telephone that's that's your lifetime experience on the Snohomish and. As we walked up starts and signed showed me some of the ways that he's trying to reduce aggression and some of his methods a high tech and some of them. Can you tell me about the flowers because there's a lot of flowers everywhere it's not just because I haven't is flowery it's one of the strategies of the Psalms and. The Shining are crime. And we can do that with flowers you can do that with cleaning up the pups outside of the box we have now something like one of the 50 baskets chain around on the street. And if you look over there you camera and and white box about 20 to 20 centimeters we have for them boxes. Because cameras so we have Tell me about these sound cameras is this like if I shout loudly I'll get snapped from my unruly behavior almost you've got the basic idea of them right except that they're not trying to catch anyone in particular they are designed to measure and monitor sound levels on the street so each of these boxes has $64.00 microphones inside it but what makes them special isn't the microphones it's the brains behind them they have a little computer which has been programmed to detect unusual kinds of noise and to send notifications so if they're screaming or shouting aggressive sounding noises it creates a notification and I put this to the test with Rick Schulter who works for Sauron the company that makes the cameras. Is my my colleague is actually showing a life you are of the street over here Ok so we this is a laptop which is like a laptop and there's a there's a map of history and remorseless over here that. Some heat maps coming up. Oh. Oh see that it's this is the pub we're looking at is now turning up the volume and seed at the heat map comes up as Checkley had his location you know this is like an overhead city map. If you combine that with the 3 d. Image of the whole street you could even tell that he's got his door open and that sound is leaking from his door and the sun cameras have also been trying to identify screams. Teresi behavior like a normal screaming but I Gresham has something you know like your your voice kind of. Trips and so we should we try it you know so he's not going to scream his yeah I think I can trigger it because I mean you have to be a little bit aggressive by nature to be able to you don't string is an existing fence and Ok let's give it a go yeah and I'm going to try to trigger right now I heard. It it didn't was. That he was there was no lights came up so all I would try to get a Ok. And I didn't. Know no aggressive enough maybe you should have had a guy well Amelia Listen to this. So you. Think I can look in the same way again after that well believe it or not I didn't work either non-aggressive been out aggressive enough in the end Rick's colleague Kunis managed to trigger the sign cameras he nailed it oh oh. Oh is it when it's actually a bit more aggressive by nature he said the whole screen just flashed red less red and then it shows the location in front of the pov again but now it just shows the g.p.s. Coordinates so it's marked yes screaming was heard here it. Sounds like the algorithms need a bit more fine chaining doesn't it well Rick told me that the sound cameras had between 70 and a 90 percent accuracy but there are other factors like the wind for example can change the dynamics and I see it was quite a windy day that we did that test so Tina says soon going to be starting a pilot project where 2 police officers and stratum signed will receive notifications from the cameras and they'll be able to go and investigate sounds that they hear that even be able to hear a 6 2nd clip on their devices. But here's the thing in the nearby city of Tilburg the police have already tried using sound cameras and when I spoke to them they said that they'd stopped using them because there'd been so many false alarms it hadn't really improved the way that they'd worked with so what does that mean 15 s Well Tina's has a trick up his sleeve he actually has a whole other set of camera or camera more cameras on the streets these ones measure crowd density and they can detect sudden movements like crowds running in the same direction and his hope that in the future he'll be able to link up these 2 systems to generate really good notifications for the place my I am. That would be a pretty effective alarm clock wakeup call wouldn't it you were listening to well tracks from the b.b.c. World Service and today we are talking public unruliness So when we've heard about these gadgets that Tina's has to monitor people on the street but what is this Wizard of Stratton zines doing to actually change people's behavior Ok so I mean let me ask your question yeah imagine you've got some friends coming over to your house nice What would you do to sort of impress them or to maybe at a stop motion mood good pressure maybe a bit of nice mood lighting perhaps a scented candle or handles I carry that right I can hold both of those thoughts in your in your head because those are basically the things that tennis is doing now we're on the same wavelength the same I like to start with the lighting He has the street lights which can change color basically and he can put them on different color patterns throughout the evening obviously to see them in action I had to get back to stratum signed that evening Ok so it's half past 10. And all the pubs are open as people outside there's a nice atmosphere I would say people are smiling. But most importantly it's. Pretty dark which means that we can see Tina says streetlights. Of the moment they're kind of red and yellow if you can imagine I'm looking at them now and there's 3 lines of Ellie Danes and these 2 red lines and in the middle a yellow line of early days. And no one's really paying that much attention that I was looking at them a minute ago and I would bring. It to notice now it's changing to White Oh yeah you just changed so maybe this is what I call green Oh yeah I learned a little so it's just gone from a kind of green to I'm going to blue not knowledge for more light now right now and the middle bit it took me a while to realize that Tina's was doing a special light show purely for my benefit so his normal sequence lasts 10 minutes and it's a slow change from yellow to red and that's based on lab research that indicates a blue light can lead to an increase in quarter sized Lovell's decreasing melatonin levels which is a scientific way of saying it wakes you up so that's what people are always saying about not looking at your phone screen late at night isn't it yeah so instead they're just trying to calm people down with a more Cousy sort of fire place 5 Exactly. So have all these lights actually led to a decrease in aggression on the stratum signed what to find out I spoke to enjoy Kelowna who has just completed a Ph d. On that question and if Tina's is a wizard injury has her own nickname hello is into. It a look at thing going to have an idea thing and then when I pasted it. Indra was dubbed the penguin by some of the scantily dressed drinkers on the stratum signs because during the winter when she was doing her research on the street she dressed up in layers of warm. It's not have ph d. Thesis wasn't about aggression per se ferric and she did identify correlation with lighting on the street but it wasn't the one that she was expecting so in their last study into fashion 17 we tested the pool are 3 Larry against the word mystery lady and we found that one Mr lighting had their a small but significant effect and bust still met means that more people seem to be outside and more noise innocent crowdedness worst experience was out of time and lived in this dimension so that the atmosphere were just was just just more festive exciting and happy was it with you surprised by that because I thought that. People thought that they warm and lights would calm people down but you're saying that they actually got a bit like here yes they got a little lively and there were more people outside that's true so would you rather stay here for half an hour in this light with me so that cold light or would you rather stay for half an hour in this life with me which is warm and now we're standing into the street and are like well I probably would prefer to be under this warm I live Yeah I think so so the yellow light it turns out was actually more inviting So not just true people out into the street but it's the thoughts Yeah that's the hypothesis and interest research is actually a really good example of the value of a living lab because it shows that the results that you sometimes get from lab experiments don't carry across to the real world but it also demonstrates the limitations of this kind of experiment because it's really really hard to control all the variables in the real world and therefore draw definite conclusions so we don't really know what is Tina's think about this well he says that interest research shows that lighting can influence the atmosphere on the street. Even if we don't know at the moment exactly what settings will reduce the aggression levels so what's next well right now he's actually completely absorbed in a new toy and it's one that he hopes will reduce aggression and create this friendly atmosphere that he's after when I was in the entire event it wasn't yet in place on the street but showed me a prototype see if you can guess what it is. So I got this in there last week. So I can show it to you now. This is one of them for the whole street we need 20. This looks like a sort of gas canister with a cheap going from it. Into a black box with a nice the handle on. What is it. Smelled a fuse or so yeah it's a smell the fusion. Where we put the boxes on the 1st floor of the Pops So it's a happy talk to the pub owners about this because they might not want the power they want to try Oh definitely right the lights and. The shining out crime and all should be able to have a smile like this. Ok you just. Sprayed it you're waving around. So this is very fresh This is like fresh linen. Very crisp. Like like leaves Yeah lesion that. Smell. Which should tell you something about baby talcum powder. It just know it to smell like talking about it so so the idea is that if you make this talcum powder smell outside a bar. People will get a memory back from from old age or from former times. Which. Gives them a cost of association. So we have to find out which kind of order we'll work to to get yet Bashir up we were gonna start with 4 different spells on trail but be one of them chucked out all show and the baby you smell and I don't know for the 44th one could be anything I can see all of this the whole street is going to be the same smell right because otherwise people below I don't like chocolate I'm going to go to Baby whole shape will be. The same smell but be good have a difference in the start of the night and the middle of the night and the end of the night that's a possibility Tina says experiments with follow a study that was done in 2007 in a police station in Rotterdam and research has pumped this orange sent through the jail cells and they found the aggression decreased the prisoners showered more and they needed less medication now that doesn't necessarily mean that they liked it that they like this orange smell but I was interested anyway to find out what the drink is a start and signed thought about Tina says selection of smells so the term 1st went to the bars was about half past 12 by this time to ask them anything do you think women would like to h

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