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Bounces by trying to save the man who died was a don't to giving them advice over the phone we tried to engage in a resuscitate activities we took him into a restaurant which I mean right now and we tried for 45 minutes to resuscitate him there are no ambulance services apparently able to intervene area for these people cordon off the area and after 45 minutes we stopped to resuscitate efforts because a doctor told us over form the dead man is believed to have been a tourist from Thailand. President Trump has clashed with senior Democrats over funding for his planned border wall with Mexico at a White House meeting in front of journalists Mr Trump told the Senate and House Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi that if he didn't get the funding he wanted for border security he would shut down the government and he said he would be proud to do so and when he tried I want to do what you did 20 times are called for I will shut down the government if I don't get my will none of us if you want to know stop your salary you want to put their lives at outtake Ok but you know what I'll say yes if we don't get what we want one way or the other whether it's through you through military through everything you want to call I will shut down the go. India's prime minister Narendra Modi has accepted defeat in key states elections is a major setback for his party the b j p ahead of national elections and a boost for the opposition Congress party and its leader Raul Gandhi Juma giving reports after a day of dramatic results Narendra Modi congratulated the Congress party and promised to work even harder for India's development the reason for this political swing isn't certain but analysts suggest rural discontent could be a factor many farmers in particular feel left out of the country's growth and 1st rated by b j p promises to deliver change and jobs which have only partly been realized state results don't always mirror national ones but there's no doubt this b j p defeat comes at a crucial time the British prime minister to resign May has said European leaders have shown a determination to deal with the issues behind the opposition in the British parliament to have Bracks that deal on a lightning tour of European capitals she said she'd been seeking assurances about the temporary nature of the backstop which is intended to prevent checks on the Irish border if there's no trade deal with the e.u. But correspondents say that leaders have told her there would be no renegotiation. You're listening to the world news from the b.b.c. Canada's prime minister Justin Trudeau says his country is seeking answers from Beijing over the detention of a former Canadian diplomat in China Michael coverage currently works for think tank the International Crisis Group his detention comes a few days after a top Chinese technology executive among one Joe was arrested in Canada the u.s. Has requested her extradition alleging that our company Holloway has broken u.s. Sanctions on Iran. Brazilian police say a man is shot dead at least 4 people inside a Cathedral near the city of San Paolo before killing himself they said the midday is church service income Pinas was just finishing when the gunman rose from his seat and started shooting with 2 guns police officers stationed outside the building shot and wounded the gunmen before he killed himself. Google's chief executive Sundar Pichai is today u.s. Congressional committee that his company stews clear of political bias saying this is a core principle of the business he strongly deny claims by President Trump's backers that Google operates with a political agenda which suppresses conservative views he's deeply if you search for the word idiot a Democratic congressman noted during the hearing you were shown images of Donald Trump but such manipulation send up a choice say what you to activity on the internet not the actions of Google itself you sense there was little Mr but Cheika have said to appease some Republican lawmakers who feel Google has an inherent bias but the risk cross party concerned about the power and influence of Google as the gatekeeper for the vast majority of Internet searches prosecutors in the Spanish region of Catalonia have opened an investigation into the regional police forces the year to stop separate as protesters blocking a key motorway last weekend earlier the Spanish government warned the Catalan authorities the national police would take control of security b.b.c. News. Hello and welcome to News sad live from the b.b.c. World Service in London I'm Tim Franks and we're going to go straight to a story that we got wind of just before we came on air and that is that one person has been killed 10 others wounded in a shooting in the eastern French city of Strasburg That's according to police reports from Strasburg the gunman has been identified and is being actively looked for according to the authorities we'll get more from our correspondent in Paris he Schofield in just a moment but just before we came on air we managed to get through to pay to Fritz he witnessed the shooting and tried to help one of the victims I heard to. That I couldn't figure out I thought it was a firecracker but it just turned out to be the actual gunshots one of times around the corner some people were already fleeing the area as I saw one person lying there a tourist from Thailand accompanied by his wife or girlfriend who was unhurt we tried to resuscitate her for it for 45 minutes we dragged him into a restaurant because by then we tried our best to bring him back to life with c.p.r. But it seems like these have. Some caution Ok so you're involved in trying to save the life you say of at least one person where you now I mean that's a restaurant right now I think it would be wise to go any further and we have a clearer picture of the situation it may be that more than another one of the one incident like this was involved but I can only testify to one right so you and the other people around you staying in the restaurant feel safety if you've been ordered to do so is this on your own initiative I'm not sure there's a guy that thought that. He might let me pass a fine but right it's why the federal budget cuts of course and well it must have been profoundly traumatic for you just to be involved in trying to resuscitate this person who was caught in it I was trained as a military medics that some 40 years ago. Action to really boast of my skills but luckily there were 2 medical latest in Germany was also tried the best Unfortunately for you. And how quickly were the authorities able to get to the scene I mean you say you were working on this person for 3 quarters of an hour that suggests that yeah there were some delay or police was there right away there's no ambulance for or agents right now some medical looking people have a right I mean this really took more than 45 include things like they didn't even like the endurance of the area. Could you give any other explanation for the delay page of freights speaking to me from the restaurant where he had tried in vain to resuscitate one of the people caught up in that shooting well Strasburg is one of the 2 locations for the European Parliament and Richard Corbett is a British member of the European Parliament for the opposition Labor Party and Richard Corbett you're in Strasbourg am I right in saying that you're close to where the the shooting happened. Yes So pretty close by I didn't say anything and certainly didn't have harrowing experience. And when you spoke to just now so I am in an Italian restaurant very close by like every restaurant cafe shop near here it's in shut down locked down as it were nobody can go out. With nobody as I look out onto the streets nobody is on the street except the u.k. Not. Where they saw military that go. Because as far as when the gunman is still at large. Nobody is allowed out so am I right in the am I right in thinking that you were you were outside when this incident kicked off. We just had news from the restaurant owner that they've caught the gunman just told us right now right from the restaurant owner here was just silence from French news sources according to local sources so that. Means that there are several 1000 people in central Strasburg breathing a sigh of relief at the moment that's where of course we'll all be still horrified at. What's happened the thinking of the victims indeed and just and in terms of where you were you ended up in this restaurant but am I right in thinking that you were out and about when you summarize that was there was something happening yes I was just coming into the center of town and I noticed So there's a lot of people going the other way saving me in a hurry out of all that's strange up something's just finished and people even didn't think twice about it I haven't heard any gunshots and I went straight to this Italian restaurant and I couldn't get in the door was locked or see the art I could see people inside somebody inside recognized me in the restaurant owner came unlock the door let me in and then locked the door again and I thought this is art and of course it was all immediately explained to me. And. I realized what was happening that's when I've been ever since this sadly has not been the 1st time that Christmas markets in different locations in Europe of apparently come under attack stress because a famous Christmas market your a frequent traveler to Strasburg of course is European parliamentarian if you've been aware atoll of of security that surrounded the markets you know whether you have been stepped up. But there was a attempt to attack it a number of years ago which was foiled a bomb was foiled which would have killed many many people and there were since then there's been security and to get into the center of town. In this period there is a little cursory check you know people look inside any bags you're carrying there are barriers you have to go through. So there is there is a security cordon around it but clearly this gunman. Got through or were already lived there knows that we don't know anything about it it's a beautiful market it attracts many many people so obviously it becomes a target for anybody who wants to kill large numbers of. Richard Corbett thank you very much indeed for joining us live from Strasburg Let's speak to the B.B.C.'s Hugh Schofield in Paris Hugh we heard from Richard Corbett that he had heard it was all sort of rather 2nd and 3rd hand that perhaps the gunman has now been apprehended what are you hearing. I haven't seen that the latest that I'm seeing is that there has been there was some point in the exchange of gunfire with the suspect. But that may have been at the start of it before he went on that. He did that his 1st shooting spree there was an exchange and then he went on the run I have not seen that report that he's been he's been caught I know that there were reports that he may have moved there just slightly away from the historic center which is where the focus is would have to wait and see the other thing that broke in the last few minutes is that the Paris antiterrorist prosecutor's office has opened an investigation which suggests that they are treating it as a terrorist incident. And that that is all that's happened in the you know my God my eyes glued to the the television stations here and there they're not reporting anything about him being caught Ok well we'll leave it there for the timing Hugh Schofield thank you for telling us what you know and of course this is a story it does seem still to be developing We will keep across for the duration of this program and if need to be come back to hear. Let's move on to another story though and it is in the aftermath of what happened to ASIO be she's a Christian woman who was sentenced to death in Pakistan for having allegedly insulted the prophet Mohammed and then after 8 years on death row was acquitted last month she's now being protected by security forces in an undisclosed location after violent mobs reacted furiously to that court decision as he Bibi's expected eventually to seek asylum in the West but has succumbed to Kamandi reports trauma is not isolated there are dozens of similar cases going through the Pakistani legal system. It's a hazy morning in the courtyard of the 19th century but record high court standing beneath your natal arches the clusters of noise clad in small black suits and gowns and amongst the many cases being heard here today is that of a Christian man appealing against a life sentence for allegedly sending blasphemous text messages insulting the Prophet Mohammed and I need to get their Cape Oxana so being larger and I was more like. The man trying to ensure the appeal is unsuccessful. The 1st Choudary he had a network of Islamist lawyers dedicated to helping prosecute alleged blasphemous. Blasphemy committed got that from what I've seen that whoever commits blasphemy becomes a hero for the anti Islam lobby they help them a lot in Pakistan they get visas to go abroad. There are other crimes where people get death sentences why don't those defendants get such support what the outside world is doing you can see for yourself it's playing with the feelings of Muslims to fulfill their devolution stings. Many Pakistanis would dismiss this as a wild conspiracy theory but it is a commonly held view amongst religious hardliners. Is a prominent lawyer and has played a leading role in the prosecution of us here b.b. The Pakistani legal system is notoriously slow but many believe judges a particularly reluctant to hear blasphemy cases because they're afraid if they issue acquittals they'll be targeted themselves this is the only group that is in a small office in a back street of one of the hordes Christian neighborhoods Joseph Francis clicks through his many court files he heads the Center for legal aid assistance in settlement supporting people accused of blasphemy. I have one around $120.00 cases and most of them are out of the country where there is accused of blasphemy it becomes impossible for them to live in Pakistan they can only manage it if they stay underground Josephs shrugs off threats to his life despite the fact one lawyer and 2 politicians have been murdered by anti blasphemy militants one of the cases Joseph is helping with is that in a below mussy his family say he was just 14 years old when he was arrested by police accused of sharing a blasphemous image on Facebook or diversion. What was his father a man that says the Beal who worked as a sweeper had only bought a mobile phone 2 months before and he has no idea how the picture was uploaded. It's very worrying we are feeling helpless we are fed up of this. We are living in poverty were to return we spent in this case. Nabeel was arrested in 2016 but his trial still hasn't concluded he's been kept in solitary confinement because of the threats from other prisoners. Bibi's case may be about to be finally resolved when a bill and dozens of others like him a still facing the brunt of Pakistan's blasphemy laws. Second Kamandi reporting from Pakistan we came to hear from you here on News at b.b.c. News Aires the programs to a to handle at b.b.c. Tim Franks is mine and also online is where you can get podcasts of the program here clips here some of our greatest hits as it were and also of course you can find the b.b.c. News website updated as ever 24 hours a day. Also coming up on the program the British prime minister has been meeting European leaders to try and seek some amendments to her breaks it deal or clarifications at least that she can take back home and sell to her restive M.P.'s but our political correspondent robots and will tell us about a move that could be underway in Westminster to depose her what we think we might know is that a leadership challenge could be underway against series in May from with inside the government Conservative Party so our political editor Laura Coombs Booker's tweeted that she's hearing this a gram Brady he's the conservative part of the sort of shop steward for M.P.'s has asked to see the prime minister tomorrow lunchtime we'll get more on that in about 15 minutes. This is news line from the b.b.c. World Service in London with me Tim Franks before the end of the year the Democratic Republic of Congo is due to hold elections belated elections which could mark the country's 1st ever peaceful transition of power after 17 years as President Joseph Kabila would at last step down 2 years after what should have been the end of his term in office to below doesn't give many interviews but he has now given one to the b.b.c. To a reporter in the capital Kinshasa Louise de worst we'll hear what the president has to say from self in a moment 1st though a question for Louise what does she think Mr Capello was prepared to answer questions now I think this was an opportunity for him to show an image of the president at ease with the idea of stepping down there had been many doubts in recent months about his plans and when he announced earlier this summer that he was going to abide by the Constitution and that he wouldn't run for a 3rd mandate. Some was surprised and so I think you know giving this interview was really yet an opportunity for him to show that he is at ease with that decision and that he is focused on organizing these elections scheduled in a few weeks and just to be clear Louise These are elections that word to you to take place a couple of years ago are people in the d.r. See as confident as they can be that these elections actually will happen on the 23rd of December I think there's a general consensus at this point you know that Congress people do not want further delays they've been delayed for 2 years now there were nationwide protests many were killed during these protests and so the general feeling is that even though there are major concerns the Congolese people do want to go and vote Tell me a little bit about what Mr Greville had to say on that issue that you mentioned just before about the prospect. After these many long. In power 3 years preparing to step down when he 1st came to power in 2001 there was a lot of hope that he was assembled a change and over 17 years that he's been in power he's view does as a president who has gained control over practically everything from the military to the justice system there's been a number of investigations claiming that he and his family enrich themselves significantly claims that he denies So these are questions that I put to him during our interview and we talked about a range of issues about his time in office and especially about his plans for the future there is nothing that we are going to roll out but in many cases I have quite a lot on my plate a lot to do our intentions short term and ambition is to make sure that we organize these elections and that the perfect elections without any major problems that's our promo ambition for the time being as but that Constitution and laws of our Constitution the former head of state playing 3 roles so the constitution will be respected as does been respected and all the institutions will continue to operate and function us by the Constitution this president there are banners of you around Kinshasa describing you as their father democracy you know the same time demonstrations have been banned and a number of years ago activists are imprisoned What do you respond to what do you say to those who see your regime as for profit or to those who say that this is the of the world they have to come to come on the ground and see I don't believe that that's a quote that assessment of the situation. Situation is much clearer to me we have elections before campaigning and come election day that people will vote 50. To 411 and of 6 There is another investigation looking into your family and according to this investigation your family has 120 permits today for

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