After another terrible and and divisive campaign that could determine whether Mr Netanyahu survives politically Mr Netanyahu presents himself as the face of security and economic competence against an emergent center ground Alliance studied with former generals who say they will end Israel's increasing divisions that may yet be more uncertain say the polling suggests no clear route to government for either of them President Trump has said it looks almost certain that Iran was behind the Saturday's attacks on Saudi oil field or oil facilities that sent only prices soaring Mr Trump said Washington was seeking more proof before deciding what to do but he hopes to avoid a war From Washington here's David Willis he said that the attack on the Saudi oil installations was a large $1.00 and $1.00 that could be met with an attack many many times larger as he puts it but it's clear he's looking to Saudi Arabia to take the lead I think in this regard to build some sort of international coalition to respond to them the message I think that came across loud and clear today was that the because the United States is now self-sufficient in terms of oil this is a global problem and not simply an American problem a European Union court case on Arlin's tax treatment of Apple begins in Luxemburg Today the European Commission found in trying to 16 in agreement between Dublin and the technology John it was against E.U. Law it said the Irish government allowed the company to attribute its endings to a head office that existed only on paper the commission wants Dublin to recover on paid taxes of more than $13000000000.00 from Apple both Arlen and Upal are appealing world news from the B.B.C. News. The United Kingdom Supreme Court will begin hearing 2 appeals today which will determine whether the prime minister bar's Johnson acted lawfully in suspending Parliament for 5 weeks it will 1st decide if the highest court in England was right in concluding that this is spending of Parliament was a political matter and not one for the law then it will consider an appeal from the government from the government against a ruling from Scotland's highest court a medicine normally used to treat men with enlarged prostates might also be able to help those with Parkinson's disease a new study has found that the drug to results in May slow or prevent Parkinson's from progressing something that's not currently possible Dr not a coma Narayan from the University of Iowa is one of the researchers this drug has a unique feature in that it's a repurposed rockets prescribed to a lot of people for this problem prostate disease and that gave us the opportunity to look in large clinical databases into our amazement there was a huge signal in these large clinical databases that suggested that this drug slow the progression of Parkinson's disease songes Splenda start clinical trials in Parkinson's patients to establish if it's safe and effective enough the campaign group Human Rights Watch says deforestation in the Amazon in Brazil is driven by criminal networks or reports as the gangs have the capacity to coordinate large scale operations to extract and sell timber and on demand are used to protect their interests the Swedish environmental campaigner gratitude and the youth movement Fridays for future have been awarded the ambassadors of Conscience Award from Amnesty International Mr Emberg received a standing ovation from the audience when she collected the award in Washington B.B.C. World News. This is the on the B.B.C. World Service I'm making here with 60 minutes of the best. Conversation from across the B.B.C. Coming up on the show in just a moment Scottish actor and X. Men star James McAvoy tells us about his new movie it Chapter 2. 1 of rock N roll's greatest iconoclasts Iggy Pop has a new album out and talks about his well lived life the 72. New season series Top Boy is streaming now we hear from 2 of its stars Ashley Walters and little Sam's Mexican or. Reveals the real life stories behind her latest book Lost Children archive we hear about Revelations a signature work of the Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater it's astounding. Right start to go down in your book. The 1st spiritual words as our than pure tonight can score and it starts with this you feel that changes energy in the room becomes focus and there's. From one of the few female musicians playing in Morocco . And joining me in the studio American playwright and he said we'll be talking about. And we welcome back film critic. We're going to hear in a moment about the return of Pennywise the evil. Tara films so why one to where they you both have someone or something from film or literature that truly gives you the creeps Lisa what about you. I was thinking about how I could never watch that American T.V. Show The Walking Dead before bed this is an adult is that yes I think part of it is I'm from New Orleans and the post-apocalyptic landscape after you've lived through Katrina is a little close to home really there's not even the zombies Well I think the zombies maybe are at the forefront but it's in that landscape that I would watch the show but not at night OK guy was about you when I was 6 or 7 I was Obs Sest with both film and book off road dolls the witches and Jellicoe Houston as the Grand High which was the most terrifying thing I've seen up to that point and I think still is . It's a wonderful kind of grand can't perform and but she's genuinely frightening and the film has one extraordinary reveal where she takes off her human mosque and this kind of extraordinary knock at Eastern beaky face like comes out and I remember it's the 1st time I screamed in a cinema. And if you continue to scream ever since throughout your life every time it does come as a shock. So Pennywise the evil don't sing clown that malevolent shapeshifting entity that haunts the small town of Darien Maine is back in 8 Chapter 2 following on from the 2017 film it's adapted from Stephen King's book the new movie stars James McAvoy Jessica chest pain and Bill skulls God with the help of prosthetics as the monstrous Pennywise Chapter 2 tells the story of the 7 adults who as children called themselves the losers club and defeated pennywise but now 27 years later he's back terrorizing the town and children a disappearing again the loses must return to destroy Pennywise once and for all the B.B.C. SIMON May I ask James McAvoy up. The film in particular about Bill sculls Galt's portrayal of Pennywise is a particularly crazy make up. See though people are talking about his performance as being so special and I think people think it's the make up is the story is the post even writing is all those things by the way and thank you very much Stephen King for providing Not but what those girls Guard does in that thing you don't see on the screen but you feel it but when we are there on the day he is racking his body every time he says just a couple aligned and the director would be like OK that was perfect let's go one more time and you'd be like where is Bill where is Bill I'm ready to go and he looks bring the corner and Belle would be in pieces he even just try to get myself back together in an arctic and not just for small Takes it was you don't see it because it's just about the kind of attention is put in that character on The Voice these reckonings through a part every time he speaks in a voice it's pretty disconcerting to be around his parent when asked about 2 things one you're in and one you're not the one that you're in I don't think is in the book but is one of the most effective terrifying scenes in the movie it's the bit with the mirrors in the hall of mirrors. And was that your idea that scene I was feeling like we were a mess in a key point Bill them Bros arc and felt like pain wise was coming after each and every one of them individually and going for their SO EMOTIONAL Achilles heel and his emotional killings he was way a responsibility he feels for the death of his brother and I was like there's no point where he confronts us so I said to and in Barber one this big huge problem I think we're missing a big thing I don't want new scenes just maybe we can try and bend some of the scenes and then run to deal with this and the luge like they were trying to scratch their discretion has and then and he just he start to go and we'll take that scene here and we'll take this in the I'm going to shove them together I'm going to take a break here and take a bet there and in 10 minutes or a glass of tequila he cleared this whole. Thing that was going to cost want to brothers an extra $5.00. And because and then take us an extra week and you put together this brilliant scene I said I'm so delighted I've been on so many films where I've talked to directors and writers and producers where I've had this kind of moment and then nothing happens. That's one thing the other one which you know involved in the opening scene of the movie and it's in the book there's a very graphic homophobic attack that happens and I know the director just could just hadn't been asked about this but it is very very difficult to watch obviously as it should be do you think it's justified. I think that one of the things that make this not just a horror story is the fact that it's a coming of age hero is a romance comedy it's a horror movie yes and it was also an exploration of the dark heart of small town America that he lives in and I don't think that he is a political move or a shaker I don't think he's ever trying to change the world or release a message less is more spiritual one but I do think he reacts to what he sees in the world news and. We're writing about horror right now but the murder of children it might be by a trans dimensional shapeshifting clone but we're writing about the abuse and the Marder of children and it's entertainment and it scares innocent attainment and I think to start that film more of C.N.N. Bad stuff really really does happen and as horrific as a great leveller is worse because you could look at horror movies that attack children this is just exposed of just titillating exploitative schlock which is the case of criticism gets thrown in Steven King sometimes but he chose to start his book with the true crime that happens in the real world every single day and if we don't shrink from the gore of represented face or we shouldn't be shrinking from the Gore or of a homophobic hate crime and I I think it's warranted I think it's fair enough. James McEvoy talking about it chapter 2 and don't go if you suffer from cool refer That's the fear of clowns my guests in the arts S.T.D. Today film critic I knowledge and playwright Lisa dumbell What did you think of the film I think it's effective it kind of delivers the scares where it's supposed I mean everyone remembers it as being one of the kind of scary works of our time the book the mini series with Tim Curry I think was a part of many of our childhoods and I think the film lives up to that legacy it's incredibly long I have to say I mean what do you call incredibly long well film critic I mean this is a few minutes shy of 3 hours and I know the book itself was kind of a doorstop I think was a 1000 pages or so but I think for film it could have been condensed a bit more I think there's a lot of quite extraneous character detail what I did occasionally between the kind of big scary set pieces I was just like pick up the pace Let's move on yeah nobody Well Bill scholars God is Pennywise again tell us about how you felt regarding the prosthetics and the special effects were they effective they are effective I think they had to do something different from what we knew of term Charise interpretation picks that was so iconic in its way and Bill scars God his own terms are very different it's kind of less kind of campy evil more kind of Loki frightening and the prosthetics that they've done with that are more kind of distorted more stylized he's been given less weirdly shaped skull and that's makeup that looks like it's bleeding out of his eyes I think it's very effective in general what do your feelings about actors wearing per statics I mean I'm thinking immediately because I can't stand them when they don't work and more often for me they don't but then. Christian Bale is Dick Cheney and last year's vice all this year's vice even I thought was absolutely brilliant Yeah that was seamless and I mean the one Oscar that from one was for its many countenance well deserved. It can be incredibly distracting and that's when you know it's not working you get to a lot in particular with that aging makeup. Which sounds simple and yet it's I think the thing that I still struggle with the absolute most of it was Clint Eastwood's J. Edgar few years ago with Leonardo Dicaprio is here you have guy who then Armie Hammer as his right hand man I love and by the end they both look so kind of desiccated pay him it's like about 300 years old right then you know 70 or whatever they're completely overshot and I don't know how that happens I think sometimes they misjudge how it's going to look on camera Yeah but when it works it works Lisa into most of the cheering transformation on stage what do you have you found of the most effective ways of doing it successfully. Well my current experience with my play Annabel Lee There is a character in it's a mother who believes towards the end of the play that she has turned into a werewolf and there's a big. Story Lisa you say believes she's 10 I know well well I believe she was away on WOLF I think that's beautiful and I think that the audience should believe that because the final scene of the play you're really supposed to be seeing Irene is her name through 2 very different sets of eyes one is through the eyes of herself and her daughter and the other through the eyes of these policemen who are trying to catch her. And you know in my play there is absolutely no makeup Irene turns into this creature in front of your eyes and how do you do that to she do it by do you language her facial expressions the sound of her voice definitely her voice changes and for sure her body language changes this play is spoken and sung directly to the audience so the whole play works by placing images into the audience's head and so really the audience is conjuring the story as much as the characters so by this point at the end of the play The audience is very used to things changing very quickly and that's the magic of theater is that things can turn on a dime I was thinking about you know the play Elephant Man which was also a movie which I believe had a lot of press about it yes but the stage play which has been produced many times on Broadway and on the West and the actor uses nothing I mean no prosthetics at all it's just a way of moving his body to portray this character and you know that's there it is there's the magic theater is about the performance meeting the audience as a match. Nation so well it sounds like you've succeeded we're going to talk about the play in more depth a bit later in the shire You're listening to the arts hour on the B.B.C. World Service with mean Nicky Beatty literature now and the 1st novel Mexican American writer Valarie Lewis Sally has written in English it's called Lost Children archive and with the fate of unaccompanied children on the Mexican border continuing to dominate debate in the U.S. Her book is incredibly pertinent it tells the story of a couple and their small children who set out to document the migrant crisis when Valencia came into the B.B.C. She explained what prompted her story I started writing this book in the summer of 2014 without really knowing that I was already writing it I was at that point just taking notes and I was on a road trip myself with my family from Manhattan to Arizona. I had been writing another novel but as soon as I left New York with my family and started driving deeper and further into the USA in that particular summer which was the summer in which this diaspora of children coming from Central America to the USA really started I couldn't think or there for right about anything else that unaccompanied minors have passed through our borders illegally since October more than 52000 have come in the last 9 months all the talk in Washington these days is about securing the border absolutely as Do not send your children as we drove I started documenting the landscape that emerged but also the news on the radio and when I returned to New York I started working as a volunteer translator and interviewer in the court of immigration and basically my job there was to interview children and learn the reason why they had migrated and what had happened along the way in order to then rewrite that in English and find a potential lawyer to represent him or her and I continued to write about what I was hearing in court except that at some point I realized that I was writing with so much anger and confusion to the point where I had to stop writing this novel and wrote another book and once I'd written that I was able to return to the novel Lost Children archive and think about it not so much as a political tool or as an account of the immigration crisis but more more as what a novel is which is a space where people breathe and people exist and in which there is an immigration crisis happening but where the book is not really about the crisis but but really a book with a crisis. Then Larry a Louise sadly that book Lost Children archive is out now my guests on today's playwright Lee said to mall and film critic guy large you heard the authors say that when she realized she was writing the book with so much anger she had to abandon it for a while silly so I just wondered if you've ever found yourself writing with so much anger all maybe too much of a mission to convey a message that you've had to polls or change your tack I was so angry after Trump was elected and I felt there was so much massage me in the way Hillary Clinton's campaign was being reported and no one was really reporting about the massage I was filled with rage and I thought how am I going to write about this and I started writing this play that started as 2 ladies who lunch in New York having a polite lunch that really turns into a wrestling match as they beat each other up the play is currently in the drawer. I was I realized quite quickly I was like Lisa you were working something out here I don't understand I'm really glad I work that I wrote it and I believe I will return to it when I have a bit more distance like this writer that really interesting guy how do you respond to I mean it could be reading a book seeing a play or any sort of movie if it's been made with anger I think it can be very powerful kind of rhetorical head when behind a work of art I mean you see a long documentary filmmaking you know even to finish 13th as a very angry film very politically present film. Oh and you know the fiction films like a lot of Ken Loach's stuff has sort of social realism in person I don't know Blake which really wanted to kind of convey the problems right now among the kind of social welfare system in Britain and I think it needs to be made with some anger too to get the message across and unproven facts of. You know with the B.B.C. World Service this is the arts and I'm Nicky Beatty dunce now and I will never forget going to New York for the 1st time and being taken by a dancer friend of mine to experience a show by the Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater it was powerful and mesmerizing and I loved the fact that Ailey Billy don'ts could and should reach everyone he transformed his small Don straight into a powerful cultural force the company celebrated at 60th birthday last year and the B.B.C.'s Coastie Lang spoke to their artistic director Robert Battle she wanted to know as the Dons company was formed in 1958 around the same time as the civil rights movement started ho