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KTNV This Week With George Stephanopoulos October 30, 2016

Anything can happen in an election. Be careful with your votes and watch your votes. Are there more surprises still to come . From abc news, its this week. Here now, chief anchor George Stephanopoulos. What a wild 48 hours it has been. Perhaps the biggest october surprise yet. This one aimed right at Hillary Clinton. There she is on stage with jlo last night in miami shaking off the shocking news from fbi director james comey that his investigators found emails that could be connected to clintons previously closed case. Clinton also shaking off the latest poll which shows the tightest race in weeks. Has her ahead by one point. 4645. An 11 point drop. From last sunday. The poll is a rolling four day average so it doesnt capture the email effect. Onethird polled say it makes them less likely to support clinton. Most are republicans but early clinton opponents to press potential supporters. Has the race been over taken its most dramatic turn. It hit 1 00 p. M. Friday. Hillary clinton on a plane to iowa with shaky wifi with no access to the news. 30,000 feet below comey says the fbi discovered new emails from clintons closest aide huma abedin. The emails were found on her estranged husbands computer under investigation for sexting a minor. Trump does. I need to open with a very critical breaking news announcement. They are reopening the case into her criminal and illegal conduct. On touchdown no answers from clinton. Secretary clinton, any reaction to director comey reopening his investigation into your emails . Five hours later she faces emails referenced in his letter are significant or not. Im confident, whatever they are, will not change the conclusion reached in july. Saturday the story splashed across the swing states. Trump is energized. Hillary has nobody to blame but herself. Her criminal action was willful, deliberate, intentional and purposeful. After news breaks that comey defied Justice Department guidance by releasing the letter clinton counter attacks. Its pretty strange to put Something Like that out with such Little Information right before an election. In fact, its not just strange, its unprecedented and it is deeply troubling. With nine days to go, trump has a new talking point. This is the biggest political scandal since watergate. And its everybodys deepest hope that justice at last will okay. Lets take in this with our senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas and dan abrams. Lets try to get facts on the table here. What do we know about the emails . The fbi was investigating Anthony Wiener the former congressman from new york for an alleged sexting scandal. Involving a 15yearold. In the course of the investigation they recovered devices. One of these device is a laptop. It turns out these laptop has information showing huma perhaps emailing with other state Department Aides and at that point, they wonder could this be connected to the previous investigation. They dont have a warrant to pursue that. So they have to come back to comey and say what do we do now. They havent seen the emails . They have not done any detail looking at the particular emails and that is the issue. They dont know whats in them and the fbi director put out a letter to his staff on friday basically acknowledging they do we know there are probably several thousand emails here. There have been reports suggesting there are no emails between abedin and clinton. Is that true . Do we know that . We dont know yet. Its possible. Is what one source said. We have a sense there was communication between huma and other state Department Aides and employees but havent got the level of detail they would need. Part of the reason that comey has gotten criticism not just from the Clinton Campaign but ot he doesnt actually know whats in the emails and sends this to congress against Justice Department guidelines to have that kind of communication. About an investigation. Hes stuck between a rock and a hard place in terms of what he should do and how he should do it. Even if you believe he should have told congress something, right, fearing what if it leaks, then its going to be worse, that people dont know exactly whats happening. There was another way to do it. Ominous that the Immediate Response was oh, my goodness, theyre effectively reopening the investigation. I thought the rules were this close to an election a Law Enforcement official never talks about an Ongoing Investigation. The Justice Department guidelines suggest that it shouldnt be james comey doing the speaking publicly anyway and that you have to be very careful when it comes to an election. I would say hes in a tough spot because when they find sometng like this out and they are investigating it, he probably wants to inform them rather than somehow they find out in another way. One thing we know is that senior Justice Department officials told comey dont do this. The tradition at the Justice Department is you dont talk about Ongoing Investigations and dont do anything close to the campaign that would affect an election. Eight words. Damned if you do and damned if you dont. I talked to someone close to he struggled what to do but decided that he could not be in a position where it looked like he was hiding something about Hillary Clinton. Dan, comey faced criticism back in july when he closed out the investigation and gave the press conference. People said that was unusual as well. He justified saying it was because there was such intense Public Interest in this case. Does that also lead to the idea now that he should be giving out more details because theres in theory then you had a conclusion. You had the results. And he was explaining what they found and didnt find. Here we dont know what they have. But lets be clear about what they arent doing. What they arent doing is going back and reviewing all of the old emails and reassessing whether they made the right decision in the first place. What theyre doing is saying is there anything else that is relevant to our investigation and if they already found with Hillary Clintons own emails, information that it didnt rise to the level of a crime, its an even longer long shot that now with huma abedins emails theyre going to find evidence of a crime. Meaning the intentional mishandling of evidence or disloyalty of the country. And so far no evidence that clinton or her aides withheld information from the fbi . Thats right. Sources are saying they have no information that any crime has taken place here. This is exactly what dan said. They want to know is there anything in this new batch of emails that could have impacted the earlier investigation. Law enforcement officials are saying that this is an unusual situation, unprecedented. Also it speaks to the poisonous nature of washington where you had clinton now criticizing the fbi director, trump was criticizing him a few weeks ago and hes now in the place where he didnt want to be which is the fbi gets the warrant today or tomorrow. Do they give out information . Hes under tremendous pressure to give out information. I talked to someone close to him who said everything is on the table. We could see an update about what they found early in reviewing these emails once they get the court order assuming they do. Unlikely this will be completed in nine days. But hes under pressure to say more than what he said. Bloomberg is reporting hes Briefing Members of congress. Should he give out more information . It depends. Absolutely. Hes again in a difficult position because hes now released the second letter internally to the fbi which was clearly intended for public consumption. That was his followup way of saying maybe i wasnt clear enough the first time. Thank you both. Lets bring this to senator tim kaine joining us from richmond, virginia. Senator kaine, thank you for joining us this morning. Lets begin with donald trump. He has pounced on this news he calls this the worst scandal no one but herself to blame. Look, hes also made all kinds of wild claims that arent true like the investigation is being reopened. Thats not true. Hes making claims about these activities that have been debunked by the fbi. When the fbi reached their conclusion three months ago. That no reasonable prosecutor would move forward in this case. Director comey was asked about the conclusion which was an close to reach that conclusion. We expect the final conclusion will be the same. Now this is an unprecedented move as your folks were describing earlier because it happens close to an election which is in violation of normal Justice Department protocol and involves talking about an Ongoing Investigation which violates the protocol. As far as we know director comey knows nothing about the content of these emails. We dont know whether theyre to or from hillary at all. Were focused on winning this race talking about the kind of president that Hillary Clinton will be and contrasting her stronger together vision with the dark and dangerous vision of donald trump. What more do we know about the emails . What has huma told the campaign . A source said this was Anthony Wieners computer, not her computer and that the first she heard about the emails was on friday when the news broke. What has she told the campaign . What do you think is there . Listen, im not going to speculate because the fbi director doesnt know. I mean, he had to issue a second letter internally within the fbi to frankly back up because the first letter created so many misimpressions but i think its pretty clear that the fbi director doesnt know that there is anything these could be duplicates of whats already being analyzed or things that dont have anything to do with hillary were asking the fbi director, you violated these two protocols, if you put out kind of a letter and had to do a second letter to backtrack you owe the public full information. Thats what Hillary Clinton wants and what the American Public deserves. What exactly do you want him to do right now . What exactly do you want him to release . I think he should release if he hasnt seen the emails, they need to make that plain and release the circumstances of those once they have done the analysis. Thats what hillary said immediately when she spoke to the press on friday. She said you cant break both protocols and leave it up in the air with a question mark. You owe people the complete information. Hillary cooperated with the fbi in this investigation. The fbi reached a rock solid conclusion, that there was no need to take it forward, no reasonable prosecutor would do it. And so to the extent that now theres a question mark what director needs to give more information. If you dont know whats in the emails how can you be sure its not going to change his conclusions . Because of the unequivocal nature of the conclusion. This was a lengthy investigation. A very long and elaborate investigation. Not a short one. The conclusion they reached as director comey said to congress was not even close. And that conclusion was very unequivocal. No reasonable prosecutor would do anything about it. When donald trump is going around making wild claims about trying to jail his political opponent and all of this stuff, hes just making this up. He doesnt get to decide what the laws of the country are. Look, this is a distraction in the last nine days but were happy this weekend we have had 50,000 volunteers working yesterday. We see very strong trends in early voting. Especially in states like ohio, North Carolina and florida where we have good data and were not going to be distracted by this. Make our case about why hillary will be the next president. A lot of democrats are incensed about james comeys action. Howard dean, former democratic candidate for president says he may have destroyed the creditability of the fbi forever. Put himself on the side of putin. Do you agree with that . What i said when i talked about this friday was its just extremely puzzling. Why would you break these two protocols . Why would you release information so incomplete when you havent seen the material yourself 11 days before an election. Why would you talk about an Ongoing Investigation . I just have no way of understanding these actions. Theyre completely unprecedented and thats why i think he owes the American Public more information. In the past you called him a wonderful public servant. Thats what makes this so hard to understand, george. Was in the Eastern District of virginia u. S. Attorneys office. And i was mayor here. Thats what makes this puzzling. They did a very thorough investigation of this matter and they werent releasing tentative conclusions along the way. They waited until they got to the end of it and he gave an unequivocal finding. Why he would release this sort of tentative letter and then have to back up on it within 24 hours when he hadnt even seen the emails himself, i just cannot understand it. How about the point that dan abrams was making, he would have been criticized for keeping silent on an issue like this before the election . The issue for the fbi is not whether somebody would criticize him. The issue for the fbi director is is he following established protocols for Law Enforcement investigation. Criticism comes with the territory but you cant move one direction or the next to avoid criticism. And rules is what you would expect from chief Law Enforcement official. You say youre not worried about the impact on the race. Youre seeing strong signs in early states. Look at the poll. An 11 point shift according to the abc news tracking poll. You have had stories about wikileaks and the Clinton Foundation and now this email story as well. Arent you a bit worried this is moving against you . Look, is the race close . In some polls it is and some it isnt. Close and working like its close. We like where we are in the states that are the keys and you do now start to get data george thats even advanced beyond polls which is you get information about who is registering and about who is seeking absentee ballot requests which are being returned and early vote in participation is more meaningful than polls and we feel very, very good about that. Taking nothing for granted. Hillary is trying to do something never been done which means shes running into a head wind but well run very, very hard and excited about the energy we see from a nation that has more than 200 million registered voters including 50 million who are millennials between 18 and 34. No indication this email scandal has shifted the race . No. I looked at the poll you discussed earlier. The fo folks who were not voting for Hillary Clinton anyway and more than 60 of the folks that you guys polled said this is not a story that concerns them. This email issue has just bedevilled Hillary Clinton. This entire campaign. You say shes learned from it. What exactly has she learned . Shes learned rather than put words in her mouth. Ill just say what she has said. She said look, i used this private server as a matter of being able to do work 24 7 even when i was at home. But now ive learned i should have done otherwise. Thats been an important lesson. I absorb it and she said something that donald trump wont say, i take responsibility for it, i apologize for it and do differently going forward. Donald trump wont apologize for going after the khan family from virginia. He wont apologize for trash talking john mccain because of his pow status. He women coming forward with allegations against him. Hes saying hes going to sue them if he gets to be president. Hillary knows how to take responsibility when she says she made a mistake. Thats an important element of the character of somebody in the oval office. The Clinton Foundation has been in the news. Should it be shut down or pushed over to another independent entity if Hillary Clinton becomes president . The Clinton Foundation, the clintons themselves receive no the Foundation Receives marks from organizations that look at charities in a very elevated way. Higher marks than other Great Charities like the american red cross. Its doing great work around the world and in this country on issues like hiv aids and opioid addiction. And the comparison in the Clinton Foundation thats the best one is the Trump Foundation which had to pay a fine for an Illegal Campaign contribution. You cant make a Campaign Contribution out of a Charitable Foundation but Donald Trumps they hid it. Pretended it wasnt a Campaign Contribution. They got caught. The money was going to the Florida Attorney general who at the time their office was looking at an investigation at Trump University and got fined by the irs. If we talk about foundations we ought to compare a foundation doing good work for people around the world in the best traditions of american of the Trump Foundation which lead story today is nothing but an effort to not help anybody. Ar

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