conditions should get pip in the same way through cash transfers or whether they'd actually be better supported to lead happier, healthier, and more independent lives through access to treatment like talking therapies or respite care. i want to be completely clear about what i'm saying here. this is not about making the welfare system less generous to people who face very real extra costs for mental health conditions. for those with the greatest needs we actually want to make it easier to access with fewer requirements. and beyond the welfare system, we're delivering the largest expansion in mental health services in a generation with almost 5 billion pounds of extra funding over the past five years and a near doubling of mental health training places. but our overall approach is about saying that people with less severe mental health conditions should be expected to engage in the world of work.