status as a non profit. any used by eastman of the emails was improper and unauthorized. it was like into contraband, as you just said. so you've got the actual possessor's of the document saying, these are contraband. and now the claim that he is trying to make that these were protected by attorney client privilege, is that right? >> exactly. chapman's lawyer has argued that, we'll, chapman you -- i'm sorry, eastman's lawyer argued that chapman knew that he represented outside clients. obviously, chapman is disputing that and is disputing that you have the right to do it. but it's a bottom line reminder for everybody that if you are doing personal work, don't do it on your employers computer server, because they own the material, not you. >> that's a news you can you