alleging fraud, and that report has become a keystone in the election fraud conspiracy. >> in terms of the dynamic on capitol hill right now, and the aftermath of this, both of penn state and the rnc censure, how would you characterize the dynamic here? we are watching senators, members of the house, run away from microphones, or give statements saying it is novel, you have got to give them that. what are you seeing from your perch? >> i think that the statements that you are hearing all depend on how safe the lawmaker you are hearing from is from having -- to donald trump. mitch mcconnell gave a very strong statement yesterday, but he is very safe. he is not going to be removed from minority leader, if he went back to some, that he is going to be the majority leader. his caucus likes him.