these numbers always under water but he's donald trump. he has always managed to get himself out of every jam. a political houdini. everybody has seen that. that's what harry reid is saying there. it's smart for democrats to take that heed. >> what harry reid is channeling there, how much does that weigh on democratic voters? >> in terms desire to get trump out of office, i think it matters a whole lot. i think harry reid is implicitly saying that donald trump will appeal to resentments. he will plate cultural war card that he will be a formidable candidate. at the end of the day if we're going to hear what harry reid is saying, democrats need to pay attention to the turnout game, that what's going to win this election is not worrying about donald trump. it's worrying about turning out their voters. and if they concentrate on that, then victory will not necessarily be guaranteed but definitely will be in eye's view. >> eddie, beth, thanks to both