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Writeup on the senator when he made this years time 100. He said, now the president is a good friend of mine and i consider him a friend. Can you imagine how he treats people who arent his friend . He is an intelligent man. He is a smart politician. One day he says lets shut down the government and defend obama care and then he goes to a town hall and panders like there is no tomorrow. That is what this is. When republicans return to recess, they will a book available for Light Reading and its called impeachable offenses the case for removing barack obama from office. It talks about high crimes and misdemeanors and bribery among them as well. Former pennsylvania governor ed rendell is an msnbc republican analyst and chip saltman is a republican strategist. Coburn considers himself a friend of the president. When time made him one of the most influential people, the president said after we entered the senate at the same time, our wives michelle and carolyn hit it off. Pretty soon, we did took. Ever since then we have bonded over family and faith and we have harnessed our friendship and Mutual Respect where we can Work Together and move this country forward. We should also know coburn is not up for reelection. It would seem on its face it is as what my colleague mr. Wolff said, a classic case of pandering, no . Im not sure this is great policy and not good for personal relationships. I can imagine what the phone conversation is when the president calls tom up and says, what was that again, tom . This is one of those things. Maybe he was talking to some town hall folks and got in the moment. This is not good kind of for what we need to do the next couple of months. We have serious issues out there but impeachment is not something in my party want to talk about but its not reality. Its not going to happen and does nothing to help the policy agenda move forward. But you didnt call it pandering, chip. Call it what it is. Ive been in those town halls and ive talked in some of those town halls. Sometimes people get caught up in the moment. I will not caught it anything my friend tom coburn got caught up in the moment. One of the reasons coburns comments are getting so much attention it appears he is on the band wagon and driven what some call fringe members of congress. For example, republican congressman said monday while lawyers had convinced him he did not have the kind of smoking gun that he needed for impeachment. He still thinks, quote, it would be a dream come true to signed that bill. His colleague farenthold said the following. There is this new book, this socalled Investigation Called impeachable offenses the case for removing barack obama from office. Governor, is there some sort of obama Impeachment Movement afoot that ive missed . You havent, craig. In my book i pointed out that tom coburn was not a wuss and one of the few politicians had the guts to sign up. He signed simpsonbolds. He says he is biding by the twoterm pledge and not pander and never. Im embarrassed for tom coburn. Chip makes a great point. Not only is this bad for the country, we have these challenges, the budget, immigration, the debt, you name it, energy. We have all of these momentous challenges ahead and this poisons the water even more. It is bad politics for the Republican Party because tom coburn has joined the whacko fashion and that is one of the reasons they lost in 2012. A lot of my friend said i dont think obama has done a good job. I like mitt romney personally but he seems to be controlled by the whackos, the crazy people in his party. Governor, how does that happen . How if this is true, if tom coburn has fallen under the spell of the crazies, how does a guy like that fall under said spell . Because if you hear it all around you, it takes a great deal of personal strength to say no. As john mccain did when that woman in 2008 said that barack obama was a muslim. It takes some strength. Tom coburn has been a guy that has always shown that strength. He said have said to these people, look, folks no impeachable offenses. The president hasnt broken the law. Lets talk about real things. Lets talk about republican policy because that is how we are going to win in 2014 and hopefully in 2016. All they have done is convince the average independent voter that they are crazy. Here soot thing, chip. We are talking about tom coburn now. Lindsey graham, you remember last year when he is someone else who is considered by folks on both sides of the aisle to be center who is levelheaded and fairly reasonable and somewhat logical and spent the better part of two weeks talking about impr Immigration Reform. If this is a strategy what is the strategy . Lindy is an old roommate from mine of washington, d. C. And ive had several discussions with him that both of us disagree on. The strategy has to be this. My concern friends will get mad a at me i do agree with governor rendell. We have to talk about the issues important to the country and say how do we get Real Solutions and conservative principles and take this to this administration and the democrats that control the senate to get things done. Talking about these issues like an impeachment that are not going to happen doesnt help that agenda and it doesnt help us, not only in policy on, but it doesnt help us in politics next november. Always a pleasure, gentlemen. Have a fantastic weekend. You too, craig. President obama is on the road again today to promote his plan to make Higher Education more affordable. Day two of his bus tour takes him to binghamton. Followed by a stop at a college in scranton, pennsylvania. Catch his town hall here on msnbc at 12 45 today. Remember we are hours away from the expected resignation of san diego mayor bob filner who could step down by the end of Business Today after more than a dozen people women reported being sexually harassed by the mayor and prompting a lawsuit and joe fryer has been covering the story for us from the beginning. Live now in san diego. Joe, what can we expect today and when can we expect it . Reporter really this resignation is likely contingent on a tentative deal that was reached earlier this week in mediation. The city council is supposed to meet behind closed doors this afternoon at 4 00 eastern time, 1 00 here west coast time, to discuss and perhaps vote on the deal that was reached. All signs indicate that filners resignation is part of that deal. The big question is what might the mayor be getting in return . Does it involve the city agreeing to help out financially with either legal costs or future settlements . If that is the case, how is that going to sit with the city council and how is that going to sit with the public . The public will have an opportunity this afternoon to speak out at a public herg right before that closed door session this afternoon. Does the maryor, does he hav any leverage to negotiate . It appears his leverage was resignation. He doesnt have much else to negotiate with but he can say, hey, listen, if i dont resign, you have to go through this recall process and its going to take a long time and its going to be drawn out but i could resign right now and in turn if you give me some of the things that im looking for, we can start to bring this to a conclusion. So that is the assumption of what happened behind the closed doors this week. But we will find out all of the details following the City Council Meeting this afternoon. Nbcs joe fryer from san diego, thank you. Appreciate that. Next wednesday marks 50 years since the march on washington. 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My four little children will one day live in nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream today next wednesday marks the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. It also marks 58 years to the day since the murder of emmett till. During a visit with relatives he was killed for allegedly whilg on a whi whistling on a white woman. It was the kind of racism in the blacks face. Good to see all of you. Thank you for being with me this morning. Mr. Wright, let me start with you, because i know you lived with your cousin emmett and you were with him until his murder and abduction. Tell me what you remember about him during his childhood. What kind of a young man was him . Emmett was a fun man to be around. He never seemed angry. He was always laughing. Always telling jokes and wanted you even even paid people to tell jokes at him so he was a fun guy to be around. Miss gordon, you were 8 when emmett was killed. I understand his mother mamie was like a mother to you. What do you remember about your cousin as a child . Secondly how did you witness his mother try to cope with his death throughout the years . Well, i remember emmett as being like an older brother in a sense. He was very protective of myself and my siblings. He was a jokester, as simian said. He loved to have fun. He was always sometimes he was a typical 14yearold. He would get into, you know, mischief as one would, you know . He liked to wash his ears for some reason or another. He and his mothers always had encounters about that. I remember that. For some reason, it sticks in my memory, i dont know why. I believe the second half of the about his mother . Yeah. How was she able to cope over the years with his death . Well, she cried a lot. She did go back to school to become a teacher where she said that god took her only son, but gave her thousands more. So she wrapped herself around other peoples children and nurtured them to try and fulfill that hole in her heart. She would weep and cry a lot. We never really understood that until i got older, but im sure it was the pain that was still in her heart. Go ahead. Im sorry. But she continued to show love to other children because she just she was trying to fill that empty spot in her heart, so she encompassed other children around her. Ollie, you grew up in a different time than your mother so you probably have been able to you probably have been able to see a lot of the fruits of the labor of civil rights leaders like dr. King. I want you to look at this the Washington Post nbc news poll. We asked of dr. Kings dream, people will be judged by not the color of their skin but their character. 54 of americans agree but you compare that to a mere 19 of africanamericans who feel the same way. How do you account for this outlook 50 years later . Well, i think that time has traveled, but in many instances, you are still looked at and viewed and judged by the color of your skin in the black community as when you go into apply for a job, when you go into stores, youre still kind of looked at suspiciously. They kind of still follow you around in the stores as to think that maybe youre going to take something that you possibly dont have the money to pay for it. I still encountered racism each in restaurants. You go and you may get served last or you may not get served at all. We kind of experienced that just yesterday here in washington. Erika . Yes, sir. Same question to you. When you look at those numbers, what does that tell you . I feel that with all of the discrepancies in the black community, that is why the poll numbers are so low. We are still confronted with mass incarcerations. We are confronted with many hate crimes that are very similar to what emmett suffered. His death and his murder was specifically racially motivated but a lot of racial profiling cases going on in the Community Today just with the Trayvon Martin and the not guilty verdict we were all very upset over. Not surprised but very upset about. You have other individuals who are victims of crimes such like oscar grant, darren hanna. Across the country, when youre still confronted with the same type of injustices and the same type of tragedies its hard to say we have moved anywhere from 50 years ago. Its not as covert but itiansim what erika said there. Oprah winfrey had some slack for what she has said. Emmett was killed dimple. What do you make of the difference between the two . The comparison to me is similar. Theres a lot of parallels between emmett and Trayvon Martin. Number one, trayvon was killed by a white boy that got out of his truck, armed to the tee, chased him down and then killed him. And then the jury did the same thing they did in 195 with emmett till. They came back with a not guilty vote. And, man, that broke my heart. That tells me that things has not changed as much as people would like to say they have changed. I just asked my wife this morning. I said, have you ever been skult consulted on a poll . Nobody ever asked moo a question like this. Who are they asking . The bigots . We will leave it there. Thank you all for sharing your memories of emmett till. Stay with msnbc for continuing coverage of the anniversary of the march on washington. Can you tune in all day tomorrow for walltowall coverage and also be sure to tune in later today for a special edition of politics nation as well. Advance the dream at 6 00 eastern. We shared our thoughts on how to advance the dream. This is mine. You can see it there, highlighting progress and positiveness. Use the advancingthedream. Hero if you had a chance to go anywhere in the world, but you had to leave right now, would you go . 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The fourstar general spoke moments after the opening remarks saying the law, among other things, punishes ultimately and ultimately hurt the Republican Party. He says i want to see policies that encourage every american to vote and not make it more difficult to vote. It immediately turns off a voting block the Republican Party needs. These kind of actions do not build on the base. It just turns people away. Jamal, how big of a deal is it to have general colin powell weighing in here . I think a big deal. He is the highest profile person, not just republican, to criticize North Carolinas voting law. Maybe this will get ordinary citizens paying attention. People tend to listen when colin powell speaks and i think he is right. This law is clearly designed to reduce voting among democratic constituencies. 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