the statement was at that point, in other words, the 2016 and burisma and that lisa passed that along to him and kept him informed. >> okay, so we can agree at this point in time the secretary wasn't in the loop that there was a conditionality on the security assistance? >> hold on a second. are you asking about july 19th, exhibit 4? >> i was asking about your email to the secretary on august 11th. >> oh, okay. >> there's -- >> well, on july 19th which the secretary was on, i talked about fully transparent investigation and turn over every stone. >> uh-huh. >> and the secretary was on that. >> okay. >> so -- >> you testified at your deposition on july 19th in this continuum you talked about at that point in the continuum it was just a generic