Who did you have . Kate and jack got a lot of candy. What were they for halloween . What were their costumes . Oh, oh. Jack was the red ranger. You dont have boys, so you dont understand. Mighty morphine power rangers. Kate was a black cat. Cute, cute. If a black cat is timeless. Liam . He was a pumpkin. Did you make the pumpkin . I did not. Did you cry . I might have cried. I cry a lot. Why did you cry . Its so cute. Max was going to be a hockey player, but he decided to be a red sox. My daughter was a detective. Bennett, we put him in a spiderman outfit. What did grow as . A financier. A motorcycle commercial. I louisville that. Okay. Thats great. What is cute walking up the Upper East Side yesterday about 6 00 and seeing these kids in their costume. For those of us out of that. I can see you putting the candy out the door and walking away. We live on the ninth floor of the building with no trick or treating. Thats just cold. Sad, right . Scrooge is what it is. Lets keep going. I dont want to do the obama care story. We missed you yesterday. It was incredible watching you there. Somebody said something about grown men. I said the morning after your team wins, there are no grown men. The night your team wins there are no grown men. One was, in some ways as fun or more fun than seeing the Green Monster and into the up field. We were throwing balls off the Green Monster and to the base. Like children. A lot of fun going inside the Green Monster. Speaking of trick or treating, we lived on the Upper West Side for awhile. Then we moved to places undisclosed, then we were chased back into the city because of the hurricane last year and snowstorm the year before. We always did 69th street on Upper West Side. Have you done that before . I havent. That is the coolest street. Theres a couple blocks like that in manhattan. Low 70s in lexington where they do it. Everybody on the street gets together and they turn the block into an amazing halloween fantasy. Thats what this is. Speaking of halloween fantasies. Halloween nightmares . Do you want to talk about this. The fantasy was you could sign up for health care. It will be fixed, i know it. As obama care turns one month old, we are starting to see how serious the glitches on the website were. Documents released by House Republicans appear to show that just six people were able to enroll for Health Insurance on opening day. A day later, 248. You are talking in one office, right . This is disclosed by the republicans. Notes from internal meetings describe the widespread issues. One of them, the high volume. Troubles with direct enrollment and problems with the v. A. System and credit check information. The Administration Says it expected early enrollment numbers to be low. Come on. This is 300 Million People plus live in this country and they can this is their landmark achievement. They have had two years to prepare for it and only six people can enroll. Only six people can enroll. Thats a bad headline. I dont think its the case now. Lets see. No, you know why we dont know . We dont know. Because they wont release the numbers. They have the numbers and refuse to release them. They say the documents are just notes and not official numbers. Then give us official numbers, right . Right. The white house continues to point to massachusetts where 123 people enrolled in the program the first month. That number steadily grew. Speaking of massachusetts, i thought it was fascinating yesterday, the same man that accused mitt romney of killing a woman, remember that . Mitt romney killed my wife. Remember that commercial . He was such a beast, a horrible human being. Mitt romney killed my wife. Barack obama believed that. Obama did not claim that. The president did not say that. Hillary clinton wasnt running against him in 2012. This commercial was put together by some sort of arm. Somebody very close to barack obama. Barack obama takes responsibility, the buck stops with barack obama. Okay. Barack obama and his campaign and people connected to his campaign and people closely associated with him in the past claimed that mitt romney killed a woman. Okay. The story is bad enough, you dont need to do that. Can i please make my point . Im going to say it again, barack obama, his campaign, they all claimed in 2012. It was one of the most horrific claims that mitt romney killed a mans wife. I remember condemning the commercial as well. Mika, im going to keep doing this, okay . So, in 2012, barack obama claimed that mitt romney killed a woman. Yesterday, hes in massachusetts and he says mitt romney is the model of health care. Responsible health care. Why dont we call this out this morning . A man who makes the most horrific charge through campaign lines, who, a year later is saying mitt romney is the role model for what he did in massachusetts. Theres a reason. Its staggering. Its not lost on the public. I think his pattern of being a bystander when things are going badly, being distanced, you are probably right about who paid for and produced the ad, but i think the public has started to see through this. The public, by responding with personal Approval Rating that is upsidedown, i think in a lot of ways the most damaging impedestrianment for someone trying to lead is because of exactly what you are saying. And it wasnt steve rattner, we talked about this. It wasnt just this one ad. They went to ohio for a year and said mitt romney was a disgusting, filthy capitalist pig. It was on bain capital. They were clear. They told John Heilemann, we have to destroy mitt romney. They went to ohio and they destroyed him as human being saying he was a horrible, filthy capitalist and yesterday, barack obama is going to massachusetts saying hes a role model. Which is it . The other thing they did during the campaign is said mitt romney was responsible, attacking the health plan he put in place and accused him of being a hypocrite about that. I think the fact is, the massachusetts plan is a plan that worked. It is a model for our plan. We can talk about it later today. So, the president is latching himself on to that plan. I guess you are not happy hes doing that. No, he can. Either mitt romney is a horrible human being or a role model for america, which is it . The health plan is a role model. Theres really no answer. What is more embarrassing to you, how it rolled out or how they are troubleshooting the rollout . First of all, its troubling the. It will be troubling on all accounts. Steve said this, it wont matter six months from now. Does it help americans . If like Medicare Part d, medicare, Social Security, americans find on balance their helped by obama care, they will like it and republicans will immediately stop calling it obama care. A lot of people will, hopefully, fix their glitches. The more people that sign up, many of those people will be republicans. They will be part of, you know, the country that needs the help. Its going to be very difficult if people who couldnt get coverage are getting it and people with preexisting conditions are getting it. Its going to be hard to take it away. This is troubling, steve. President obama was already having a bad year. It was a rough second term. You know about that. He was having a rough second term. This is one of the things that always makes you angry, you and all of us at the table angry, selfinflicted wounds. When we do something stupid, which i do every morning, i know. Selfinflicted. I get paid for it. I dont agree with this one but go on. It was a selfinflicted wound. They knew it was coming and werent compared. As brian brought up, their response to the crisis has been equally bad like george bush looking down over katrina. The first few steps along the way, if i were in the white house, i would say how could this happen . We should ha known. Whats underlying this in the end, you have a set of technical glitches, but whats underlying it in the end is people are realizing, i think there was an unfortunate thing conveyed that everybody was a winner. Everybody won the lottery. Everybody was getting a lottery ticket, nobody losing anything. When you balance the equities, some people are going to be worse off in terms of the cost of their plan. The vast majority of the people are better off. The idea everybody was going to be better off is not right. You cant get 30 Million People on Health Insurance rolls without other people paying for it. Theres no such thing as a free lunch. Agree. You are exactly right, the wealthier may have to pay more. I think the stories that are troubling, brian, right now is the fact the l. A. Times story. Its devastating. You have working class people, middle class people struggling that are kicked out of their Insurance Plan and having to pay double. Instead of 98 bucks a month, its 200 bucks a month. For millions of americans, thats as a reporter, i have a lot of people come talk to me. Some are waiting for kidney transplants, canceled from their health care. The stories are coming forward. When we talked off camera, the key is young people getting involved. In two years, if its going great, thats one thing. But to keep the cost down, we need young people to enroll. What we are going to see is down the road, the government is going to have to spend more money to try the website again. If it doesnt work, you move on. I get it. A. D. D. Generation. We all hear these stories, we are all going to hear these stories. Thats correct. No matter how well the launch was, add that on top of the selfinflicted wounds. Again, six months from now, are americans better off a year from now . Are americans better off than they were without it . On the whole, thats how it will be judged. I believe the answer is yes, i really do. Dont even start to think im pandering for anybody. I truly believe this is the morally right thing to do as a country. Having said that, when people ask us questions when talking to groups about it and they are concerned about the cost of business or things happening now, i remember my answer, i felt like should have been used as well. Its hard to do Something Like this. There will be problems and challenges. No major policy change, no creation of Something Like health care is going to happen cheaply or for free or without lots of problems. Instead of calling on the country to all do their part to solve and share the goal is make sure everyone has access to health care. President obama, every single day for the better part of five years says if you like your plan, you can keep it. If you like your doctor, you can keep it. They turned out to be lies. Thats why hes in the position hes in. I dont believe well be talking about the website, i think well talk about the policies and problems with the plans and the problems republicans have had from the beginning, inserting the federal government in distribution of health care. Steve, let me talk to you as somebody who supported this all along. We may find some agreement here. You are smirking, so i doubt it. No, im smiling in anticipation. I think the bigger problem is, if this were a massive, sort of lbj plan that all Senate Democrats and all house and they were all on the same page and max to barney frank on the same page and figuring out how to do it, that would be one thing. This is not just republicans against these plans. These were democrats that were warning with each other, their exemptions to hospitals and exemptions all along the way. Nancy pelosi, the day before its passed, she said we passed it to figure out what is in the plan. This isnt like its a grand design. Its an ugly patchwork of legislative fixes that were plugged in. We dont know if its going to work. I agree with you completely. It was a patch work. A process. When lbj passed medicare, he had massive majorities in the house and senate, which didnt make it easy. It was easier for him to get what he wanted. He decided what was going to be there instead of letting committees, subcommittees figure it out. Remember, inherent in this idea, there are trade offs. The more you say that the Insurance Companies have to provide for people under 26, if they have to cover preexisting conditions, the more you are essentially setting a cost level on what insurance is going to cost. Those are trade offs. At the end of it all, what we ended up with was a finely balanced machine with compromises in it, as you sugge suggested. We need all the pieces for it to work. We need the young people to sign up. We need the exchanges open and all this stuff to happen. Well see how it goes. We have time. Well continue the conversation. But very big headlines this morning, revelation that is are fascinating. Mark halperin and John Heilemann are set to shape up the political word. New details from double down. The details from the 2012 election are leaking to the press. Remember the rumors the Obama Administration was thinking of booting Vice President biden off the ticket for Hillary Clinton. Thats crazy news chatter. Joe, you heard from insiders about this. Everybody poopooed you. Said it early on. People were talking about it in 11. I heard from insiders. We talked about it on this show. Everybody laughed. Well, it turns out, when you say it, yeah. It turns out it turns out, oba obamas chief of staff at the time, was actively pushing the idea. His quote, i was vocal about looking into a bunch of things. This was one of them. You have to remember, at that point, the president was in awful shape. So, we were like holy christ, what do we do. Fortunately for Vice President biden, research suggested the move wasnt going to help the president s chances. I wonder why . Hillary clintons Approval Rating is down to 46 right now, i saw. Hillary clinton this is interesting. I have great admiration for her. I do, too. I think shes going to run. Benghazi is a serious, its a lot more difficult for her to get around that than the Mainstream Media want to think. They think its a right wing conspiracy, no its not. I tell you the moment she said what does it matter, im telling you about the pakistan . Oh, benghazi. I dont think she meant it that way. She didnt. Its one of those lines she will regret. The other thing is, it doesnt make a difference. At the end of the day, swapping out your Vice President looks more desperate than the benefit you gain from having a different person on the ticket. If you read that Vice President ial cants cant hurt, but i edited myself but thank you. Theres that. Thats a good point. He was quoted as making sense. He was doing his Due Diligence. It was a low point in the administration and considering all his options. Theres this isnt a huge knock on joe biden. If you are bill daley, what do we have. If it gives him a 3 or 4 bump. I mean i would take my mother off as Vice President. Mom, you understand that. My mom no, mary jo would not understand that. She would scream at me and say joey, its about winning. If you are chief of staff, you dont want the president walking in your office saying bill, i think i need a new Vice President , what do you have for me. You say nothing, i havent thought about it. Also in the book, romney was considering Chris Christie for Vice President and should have. The campaign ruled him out due to Unanswered Questions about his background and health. There were several questions. They tried to get information about it. Double down. Also, this is the most remarkable part of the book. President obama, we know he has disdain. Hes a social guy. He has disdain for he has disdain for hypocrisy and grubbiness. Its not just republicans he doesnt like to hang out with. He tried to set up a golf game with bill clinton. They dont finish 18 holes. Can you imagine the talking. The disgust. I can only handle him in small places. I would love to golf with that guy. Of course you would, joe. What do you think about the arkansas game . You are so great, joe. I dont know mr. President , hows my hair . You would love spending time with him. I can take him in doses. Like five minute doses. Oh, come on. Mr. President , dont listen to her. Mr. President , you do tend to overwhelm the conversation. No, no. I love that. Theres a lot to ask him about. Former president s, all former president s have wisdom to share and pass on. You have to ask for it. I think president obama can certainly endure good point. Good point. Considering that bill clinton delivered the best Campaign Speech of Barack Obamas campaign, he learned to love him. You know what . His second call on Election Night was to bill clinton. The speech was half ad libbed. He went from the text. It was incredible. Hes incredibly talented. Our president could use advice from him. A longer game, like 36 holes. I always said, i have said it for years. If i were a democratic candidate, i would wear a bracelet that says wwbd. What would bubba do. Bill clinton is the only democrat that figured out how to win in the age of reagan. Guess what . That age, as much as democrats think have pass fied is still with us. When democrats try to expand the government in 2009 and 2010. They are still paying for it. The difference between them is stark and important. Bill clinton, no matter what you he loves it. He wants to be in it. He wants to be in any conversation about politics. He gets it. He has stability which you have seen repeatedly since he left the presidency. Look at that. Give a speech. People say he explained it better than the candidate did. Mika, you just drew the most important distinction between these two men. Why one had a successful term and see if the other one can survive. Bill clinton loves the game like lbj had the game. He would have hillary in the house because he loved it