strategist who rose to national fame with the clinton presidential campaign. he is cohost of "politics war room" podcast. and mike murphy, veteran republican, cold -- for the political future at ufc, he cohosts the "hacks on tap" just to keep things even. gentleman good evening to you. both james, let's talk about messaging that's when you when i talk about every time you come. on you and i get there 1000 americans, either in bay st. louis or the san francisco bay area. we asked them, what is in the build biden just signed. what is in the bill they are trying to get biden to sign. what somebody will see a bridge, somebody will say and interstate. that's about it. how do you fix that? >> you get out and you talk about. it the president gets, out he's got some really skilled casualty. governor jean, andrew, the infrastructure -- anybody who has ever run for