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MSNBC The Ed Show October 24, 2013

She needs to sort her priorities. Teach a man how to fish. He can feed himself for a life. Dont simply feed fish. She sleeps with the fishes. How do you know about him . Elementary, my dear watson. What is our heart and what is our soul as a country is what the next generation is going to have to answer. Well, is america going to figure this whole thing out when it comes to jobs, the economy, health care, paying the bills, interesting questions from the folks at oxford. As one brit said to me, it appears that the gentleman from texas seems to be causing quite a bit of difficulty as of late. I couldnt disagree with that at all. I just got back from across the pond. First time ive ever been to london. I was afforded the opportunity to speak at Oxford University at the oxford debating society. I got a real insight into the way the world actually views america in troubled times, at least in london. Had a lot of conversation with folks on the street. Of course, i was a tourist. You know how it is. My wife and i toured around london, visited big ben. Had to do that. Saw the queens boat. It wasnt up for rental or i would have taken it out. Visited the thames river and saw the tower bridge. Also with a very serious attitude went to see the world war ii Airfield Museum at ducksford. Being an aviation buff i have always been enamored are the sacrifice of world war ii and what we did as a country. This was the home of the eighth air force that lost 6,346 american aircraft, most of them were b17s. It was the home of the memphis bell, the movie produced there in ducksford back in 1992. This is just outside the Ducksford Air memorial, and the numbers of americans that the number of lives that were lost and the sacrifice that was given. When you go around london, you see monument after monument of sacrifice of people that just were called on to save the world. And i coupled the sacrifice of that generation in my talk at action ford as to what is our sacrifice today, as not only a country, but as a world . Is it going to be a world war like we saw back then . Probably not. But the sacrifice changes, but the heart and the emotion and the soul of what we have to do as a people pretty much stays the same. You cant go over there to see this huge machinery that we developed as a country at the time it reminded me of a time in america where we actually built things, where we were going from automobiles and going from refrigerators and we were actually manufacturing things now into a war machine to save the world. Because of that we kept an extremist from ruling the world. Back then the world had a very positive view of america. We could do whatever was put in front of us. Today in the news, of course, were all upset about a web page thats not working and theres no way its going to get fixed. It just frustrates me. Todays Americas International reputation i believe has been damaged because of our politics. Are we reliable . Will we pay our bills . Are we ever going to stop bickering and realize the absolutes of what the American People want . Its because of guys right here, the selfish politicians that only think of themselves. They took us to the verge of a Global Economy falling apart. We were the hostage in an attempt to deny 30 Million People in this Country Health care. They have lost, i believe, a great deal of global credibility. The conversation is so much different today. Talk from republicans like this i believe had the entire world on the edge. I would do anything, and i will continue to do anything i can to stop the train wreck that is obama care. Are you saying if he continues to refuse to negotiate, the country is going to default . Thats the path were on. There is no such thing as a debt ceiling in this country because its never been not increased. If you dont raise the debt ceiling, what that means is youd have a balanced budget. It doesnt mean you wouldnt pay your bills. I think all the talk about a default has been a lot of demagoguery, a lot of false demagoguery. Should we be proud of the fact that were the only industrialized country in the world that has a conversation like that . Republicans brought the Global Economy to the brink of financial unknown, and the world for that matter, took notice. I spoke about this with the students at Oxford University. The fact that we dont realize because of our selfishness that we could bring the entire world Financial System to the verge of collapse because we have decided we dont want to pay our bills. What we have committed to is a legislative body, and the president cannot spend a dime. What the legislative body has decided to commit to all of a sudden because of not being able to get their political way, has even entered the discussion that we would burden your country or others who have thought america was a good investment. And weve had the discussion, well, maybe we wont pay this bill because, number one, we dont like the president , we do not believe in his agenda for health care in america, so we will obstruct him and stop him at all costs. That is simply not the america that the brits new of yesteryear. One brit told me many london, as americas economy goes, so does great britains. Republicans need to realize when they play games with default, their actions affect the entire world. The people i spoke to in london also call republicans extremist. They couldnt believe a small group of radical republicans could have that much power and possibly inflict that much damage on the world. I want to point out there is nothing extreme about Social Security. Theres nothing extreme about medicare and medicaid, and theres nothing extreme about providing every american with health care. We are way behind the curve. I believe this and so do the folks across the pond. I tweeted out, man on the street conversation in the uk. Why does your media Want Health Care to fail . Now, this was several days ago in london when i tweeted this out. They dont have these conversations. Theyve gone beyond that. Their media doesnt attack universal health care the way we do. Is there view of humanism different . Are we that far behind the curve . Do we really believe that we must have political gain and put peoples lives aside . You know, you go overseas and you talk to folks and you get a different view about what america is all about. Were having fights over things that have been decided years ago in other countries. And the sacrifice, what is our next sacrifice going to be . Ill tell you its going to be financial. We have income inequality in this country that is unbelievable. We have the vulcher chart as it continues to separate. We have the middle class being charged a hell of a lot more and not being able to move forward. Weve got the top 2 who are controlling it all and the corporate interests running our elections, and these folks are okay with it. How are we going to overcome that . The challenge for the Progressive Movement is to talk about sacrifice. The wealthiest americans to keep our financial house in order are going to have to pay more, and i believe progressives and liberals in this country are going to have to not be timid about saying that during budget negotiations. We have corporations that dont pay any tax. We have money parked offshore, dodging the tax code, or should we say should we change the tax code to ensure theres more fairness in the system . Thats the sacrifice, the next sacrifice. If we think we can play with disaster every 60 days in this country and have it not affect our reputation in the world, were mistaken in a big, big way. Are we reliable . I hope so. The people speak in every poll out there and every election so far, we dont want medicaid, medicare and Social Security butchered the way republicans want to do it. And we want more fairness when it comes to taxation when it comes to wealthiest americans. I want to know what you think. Have republicans policies ruined our standing in the world . Text a for yes, b for now to 67622. You go to our blog at ed. Msnbc. Com. For more on this, let me bring in congresswoman Jan Schakowsky of ill now. Good to be with you. Have we learned any lessons, has washington learned any lessons . Have the republicans gotten out of this deep, dark cave and realizing people are kind of watching what were doing . Its not just the rest of the world. I think most americans, as you pointed out, ed, in the polls most people want to have health care, they want obama care, they dont want it to be repealed, they want it to be fixed. Most people are against cuts in medicare and Social Security and the s. N. A. P. Program, the old food stamp program. I think that republicans really i hope learned at least in part a lesson in the final vote that opened the government and made us allowed us to pay our bills, that this was a losing battle. They lost big on that. More importantly, i think come the next election, if we do just what you said, make sure people are really looking at the major problem in our country which is income inequality. Thats whats really hurting our economy. Hopefully they will create new jobs and build a better better class, then i think the democrats will prevail and well be able to really move forward. Looking at the history of england and the coordination between the americans and the brits, there was an attitude, and its very clear in reading all the history that there was never any question about whether we were going to be able to succeed. In todays media right now, were having a big discussion about whether a website can work so people can get health care, and thats our big problem. Its almost as if we blow up problems to the point like we cant achieve much in this country anymore at all. Its almost depressing, and i hate to use that word on television. But we as americans follow this political fight that is going on in washington. Is it damaging the country to the point where we dont believe we can get anything done anymore, including fixing a website . Of course its sory doik laos, because the real issue is that were going to finally provide health care or make it available to all americans, millions of people who have preexisting conditions or have never had Health Insurance as all. As the president said, this is far more than a website and of course its going to be fixed. In fact, in 2006 when Medicare Part d was rolling out, the secretary of health and human services, leavitt, on the 53rd day after the rollout was saying, well, you know, when you roll out something this big, of course, theres going to be problems, but were making progress. So weve been there before. But the republicans act as if this is a new thing, that we should repeal it because the website doesnt work. Its crazy. They will take any more sell of information to be negative because they want to change the law. Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, thanks for joining us. Now lets bring in msnbc director richard wolffe. Good to have you with us tonight. Interesting country. I thoroughly enjoy it. You know what i noticed about people in london cafes, they are consumed with reading newspapers. In america were all on our machine, on our iphone and blackberry, everything else. But it is a huge northbound town which tells me they go beyond the headline. They actually want the devil in the detail. How do you think were viewed based on what weve gone through as a country, the shutdown, almost didnt pay our bills and here we go again in 60 days . A couple things. In the uk they look at europe, countries like greece and say here is a bunch of countries on the brink of default because they cannot afford to pay their bills. How come america, the worlds richest country, the biggest economy in the world is willingly, intentionally putting itself in the same position of greece or portugal or spain or italy . It makes no sense at all. What that does is it reinforces really ugly cliches that america doesnt know how to run itself, what is going on . Theres a lot of great good will to the president , still very popular overseas, especially in europe. But they do not understand remember theres a conservative Prime Minister in the uk. Theyre all about we are for fiscal responsibility. They would never flirt with default just like the conservatives here. So this has taken america into New Territory in the eyes of the world, almost to the point were unpredictable. You have to say the conservatives here, especially the tea party, have weakened americas standing in the world. No question about it. When it was democrats who were questioning whether there should be a war on terror, they were told they were unpatriotic. I dont see that same language going at republicans. There has been just as much damage to the world, maybe much more damage to americas standing in the world by saying were ready to default compared to democrats saying should we invade iraq, for instance. Theyre having the same conversations in the uk as were having here when it comes to pensions, when it comes to workers rights, unions, health care and the expenses and how to control it. Theres a huge austerity push there as well. What we do in our congress, does it affect their mindset over there . The World Economic councils when they get together, International Monetary fund and they all meet globally, they all talk, oh, gosh, we cant pay these bills. Weve got a democratic president here, the growth there without that extreme austerity. Theres been spending cuts here but nothing like what its been over there. Growth here they can only dream about over there. Austerity hasnt worked for them. Talk about Second World War, the socialized medicine they have came out of the Second World War, kcame out of a shared sens of responsibility. Rich and poor, its immoral to think that someone who is wealthy deserves or should have a right to a Better Health system. You faced the same bombs, faced the same bullets. You should have the same health care. They did that after the Second World War when the country was on its needs. They could barely afford it. It remains popular with a conservative Prime Minister. They look at this debate and say, okay, you want people to not go bankrupt. What about getting the same kind of level about health care, the same care and attention . Richard wolffe, thanks so much. Remember to answer tonights question, share your responses on twitter and facebook. We always want to know what you think. Talk about inflation, john stossel has inflated ideas about the federal reserve. Ted cruz may lead the crusade against obama care, but wait till you hear where he gets his health coverage. Stay with us. Nothing says, youre my 1 copilot, like a milkbone biscuit. Say it with milkbone. Help the gulf when we made recover and learn the gulf, bp from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. 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After world war i in germany, people had to go to the Grocery Store with a wheelbarrow full of cash to buy groceries. That helped bring on hitler. You might have to take that to a Dunkin Donuts some day to buy a latte. The number two trender, ub 45. Hillary clinton received a resounding standing ovation as she walked on stage to speak at ubs alumni arena. Hillary clinton avoids talking about 2016. Perhaps you could describe for us what the ideal candidate for the presidency would look like in three years. Im not as interested in what the candidate looks like as what the candidate stands for. But didnt take any bull at the university of buffalo. At one point a man got up and began shouting benghazi, you let them die. We have to be willing to come together as citizens to focus on the kind of future we want, which doesnt include yelling. It includes sitting down and talking with one another. Todays top trender, dose of hypocrisy. Could, would you with a goat . I will do anything and i will continue to do anything i can to stop the train wreck that is obama care. While he fights against obama care, tez cruises on his wifes Health Insurance. Now will the senator answer my question, whether his family is protected by the government administered federal Employee Health benefit program . Im hell jibl for it, not currently covered under sglit most things can be fixed with duct tape and extension cords. See, america, you dont need health care. If you have a medical emergency, go to home depot. Joining me, e. J. Dion an msnbc contributor, columnist from the washington post. E. J. , great to have you with us. Great to be with you. What kind of reaction should america have to a man such as ted cruz having a cadillac insurance policy while he works to take insurance away from millions of americans who need it . Well, i think they should be upset. When i heard what we were talking about, i went back and looked up one of my favorite quotations which says the law in its majestic equality forbids the rich and the poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets and to steal bread. And the rich and the poor alike are equally free to buy Health Insurance, except a whole lot of people among the working

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