she's also an msnbc contributor. reconciliation, avoiding a shutdown. i know you guys interviewed senate minority leader mitch mcconnell for the news this morning. what does he have to say? >> with a slew of what we're dealing with we sat down with senator mitch mcconnell to talk about raising the debt ceiling. democrats seem to believe they're going to convince mitch mcconnell to support raising the debt ceiling. he cold us unequivocally, that that is not going to happen. he has continued to say what he has been saying for month. and he said, i'm not bluffing. so this really leaves democrats in a a conundrum, what to do to push forward. while it looked like a
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