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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes February 24, 2015

Then al shabaab joins the arms race following attacks in america. But should anyone take the bait . Minnesotar an oscar wrapup you just have to fasee. All in startk n good evening from new york im chris hays. Fafb 2016s likelyd candidate scott walker is facinglp majorr unwillingness to say that the president isfa christian or lovew3 loves his country. Walker was at the white house in conjunction with the annual winter gathering of the National Governors association infa and on saturday he was asked once again if he wanted to reputate judy gi a comments made it au closed door dinner last week with walker. And the president does not love america. Once again, he puntenx i thinkw7r the president and americani can speak selves. That is something that mayor and the president have to talk about, they can certainly comment themselves. The 2016 campaign i[3 still in its infancy. It has been ae1x8 a coaster for walker who is rocketing up standings after widely praised speech in iowa before fall back to earth after a sore ris of what appearlp to be embarrassing gaffs in which he failed tojf answerni what seems to be simple noncontroversial questions. Do you accept the theory of evolution, does the president love his country and is he a country . If walker just answered yes, yes, and yes, and you know thats hard, therefa is no story. Instead he punted over and over. If the president is Christian Walker responded, i dont know. You askedi me to make statements about people that i havent had the conversation with about that. Scott walker is claiming hi lc cant comment one1 their religion unless they werefa discussed it tqti u u them. So if he was asked if the pope was fba aj would he have to take a pass. He acknowledges he was punting when he discussed evolution earlier this month in london. For me, i willco punt on that one as well. No. Dc really . Thats a question aco politician shouldnt be involved withxggco so i wille1 eave thatco to you. They would laugh and say of course evolution is true. Me, it is just one of those where im here to talk about trade and lets not pontificate another issue. There is another ; t sray that scott walkers p5 x isnt a gaff atxdqxd all but to endear him to sq;rq ush limbaugh party. Walker said on sunday taking the small ideas that thet gotcha headline writers for theninijf liberal media, bothq capitalizingxd want tocot talkt about. He is also claiming to bring up the gotcha questions in remarks he is the only gop candidate who can bring together the republican establishment and faithni while punti]ok early puntt often strategy may be in the and so youfa sort of get into this vortex and you wined 5 sort of spinning oute1 of control a little bit1alc1 i think thatsjf what happened here. Marco rubiofa showed this to be a r layup. Answer any question and mwt t on. At the end of the day thats what should have happened. I can take exception, why are you asking me questions about evolution and all of thisrpq im]vnu the governor after state doing x, yi] andfa z. But thats because the conversationc largely in certauq circles in the party has din grated to that. So now every candidate wouldr that. I would love to hear democrats and hillary i canj05y talk about how joe biden is putting hise1 hand on the secretary of defenses wives shoulders is a bit icky. But thats not where we are. This irq space were in now and republicans have toe1lp get past this and move on to the substance of the argument of the administration andxd potentially hillary. Michael,xd i likece1qo[cs7w3nr the response and even theni pair thetrenthetic joe biden and the secretarys wife. co they are being asked andc howard and ini wonder if you have anyco sympathy as former candidate yourself as a person on the receiving end of socalled gotcha niquestions. For the idea that this is essentially a game of gotcha. It is a gamn of gotcha and after ir is the most Important Office in thexd world and if you cantjfe1 survive a little kbocha from the press which iq grant is very unattractive and makes you mad as candidate, whatnr do yoc when vladimir putinr i agree withxd michael, somec of iti]q] he hasd gotchad but the problem is he will be the same ase1 mitt romney andco have things he cant live down. ni becausew3 the avqage american voter, they want know that he thinks thatxd hecw3 respects the presidency. You cant respect thexd presidency, if hexd thinks he is not a christiannr and he was born in kenya and there crazy crap and he is catering to the crazy wing of the republican party. That is great in the primary butxdco it will come backxd it t. O. Bite him in the general election. If he isnt careful, he will be unavailable for vice president. E1 i think he could beat jebw. J z bush 0ekp point. Governor walker, does the earth revolve around the sun. T and thatsyuonpolitical fae1i]one. And yes, does the sun revolve around the earth. Thats the unfortunate part of where we are right now. I would like to seet him move around that. With the exception of what governors have done is worthy of the debate. And thats what they need to get to. Okay. e lets talkw3nit about the man that kicked o all this off,xdr giuliani. Aw gain, im sympathetic, im genuinely sympathetic from questions from the right and doubling, tripling, quadrupling, andw3fa essentially doubledowning, and i co. Su readfar obamas mind. He is going very far backxdc on the limb thon and it is unfortunate because i think afa lot of it no ma4 ci a va stripes are in the g po havefa c mu et my strags for the mayor that it wascnk[ hard to see him go there. He was the guy that criticized other republicans who went there. So that was very disappointing in many respects. I think he isr a little bit from it and it is hard for him do. Now you have another talking point or Sticking Point that jb5 qpaes for the office of the president over the cours d of the nextlpokq few months have to answer because he opened up that pandoras box. We havenb a handy dandy chartq on does the president love america. So we have americafa hearts usa, well rb kochton. They are very popular 1 but after a while you start to say things you shouldnt say. I think thats where they are all thats where we are fanow. And i think rudy realized that and he is trying to reel it backr under. But he is an guy thtr wants it back off anything. Thats not in his nature. So we are where we are. T so this is the ki , that will bug the republicans. Thats the hard part. The wing of the will support jeb cobush who would like to put this nutj9 auu f 3 caaju em. cofafaxdcofa this love america, antigay xd stuff, antiimmigration stuff. You know thexd womens whatever it was, have a glassc of winee1 so you can get fertile and allfb this crazy stuff. Its effects on society really came about because, not because i was selfish and wanted one for myself, which i did. Its because i had, had a passion. My whole life fa the xdthreat eoric or reality of threats is next. Thco in Small Business you have to work hard, know your numbers, and stay focused. I was determined to create new york citys first selfserve frozen yogurt franchise. And now you have 42 locations. The more i put into my business the more i get out of it. Like 5x your rewards when you make select business purchases with your ink plus card from chase. And with ink, i choose how to redeem my points for things like cash or travel. Hows the froyo . Just peachy. Literally. Ink from chase. So you can. In the depths of february, fa things can seem bleak. T niw3 every so often, something happens outt of the blue to restore your faith in humanity. 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Law enforcement is over the mall of america and other places and even led the secretary of homeland secure it to sound the alarm. Any time a terrorist organization calls for an attack on a specific place, we have to take that seriously. If anyone is planning to go to the mall of america today, they have to be particularly careful. The u. S. Government says there is no evidence of a specific credible plot against the mall of america or any other commercial sites. Today, they called out the video for what it really is. Our view is its propaganda. We need to remain vigilant as is always the case, but the point of this video was to instill fear. Joining me now is senator amy klobachar. Where the mall of america happens to be located. How is anyone supposed to understand jay johnson saying if you go to the mall be careful. What do i do with that . I think first, chris, you heard not just jay johnson buzz other security secretaries saying to be vigilant in public spaces. I think what is key is the fbi said people should go on with their lives. You heard the state department. Jay johnson himself said people should feel free to go to the mall and feel secure going to the mall and our security has been up there. I will say this. For us you may think it is an obscure group, we had 20 indictments in minnesota for people who aided al shabaab. They have worked incredibly well with Law Enforcement, but i want you to know it is not an unknown anymore in minnesota because they have tried with other numerous videos to recruit somalis in minnesota to go fight with their terrorist group. And im not saying that al shabaab is on cure by any way. They have been in the failed state of somalia for a wrong time. They were behind the bombing in kenya, which was horrific. They put out this video and there is no, as far as i can tell, public or classified demonstrated capacity to do anything to carry it out, and you have an endless loop for 48 hours. People running around, as if we should take this credibly. I think that is a good point about things getting exaggerated. For the workers that worked there, i spoke to them last night. They want to snow that our government is behind them. I was able to tell them what the fbi said. Do remember that this is coinciding with the debate about funding for Homeland Security. We have what we call a clean bill, a bill to fund our first responders, a bill to fund Homeland Security, and we have been dealing with amendments, poison pills, and immigration that dont belong on there. When those workers looked at me they say i want to make sure the government is behind us. And that we are funding the people who are protecting us at this mall. I do think it is relative in that way. We want to make sure were giving people the protection they need. A threat, we dont know how serious these threats can be at times. I trust our Law Enforcement on this. I know when they say they want to up security, they want to up security. Is that explain to me what the tangible difference between a funded dhs and a nonfunded dhs is. A number of the workers would have to be furloughed. You have all kinds of workers you could probably put up lists of who would be and who wouldnt be furloughed. Why are we sending this message to the rest of the world with what we saw in paris, with the computer cyber attack. Why would my republican colleagues want to send that message to the rest of the world . I dont think they do. Im hopeful we will be able to resolve it this week. All i know is were five days away from shutting down Homeland Security and that is not the message our country wants to send to whoever produces video. Senator, thank you. Thank you. Up next, breaking news out of texas. Do you think you will get a stay . Im optimistic. I mean the evidence is there, it is just if the courts are willing to acknowledge this, you know what im saying . 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Built for business. Just hours ago, a stay of execution was granted to rodney reed two weeks before he was scheduled to be put to death. He was convicted from the 1996 rape and murder of stacey sykes. They cleared dozens of suspects, including her fiance, a Rookie Police officer. They matched dna inside stites to a local rodney reed. It took just hours for the jury to convict reid. To this day, he maintains innocence. Tonight, responding from the innocence project, and looking at new dna evidence, the court has halted his execution. Earlier this month i spoke to him about his experience in texas. Were you scared . I mean you are told youre being sent to go live with the worst monsters in texas. The people who have done the most heinous acts and youre going to be around them. No. I cant say that i was scared. I cant say that i was scared. I didnt want to come here, but i i used to fight. I used to be a boxer. And you know a man is a man. A man is going to defend himself. So i was curling up and balling up, and im going to defend myself. I was prepared to do that because you know what im saying, i was coming here. Once i got here, some of these guys are like looking at the big picture. Some of these guys were someone elses neighbor, brother, father. You dont know what may have happened in their lives that brought them here, you know what im saying . And just like my situation, i had nothing to do with this case, but im here. But as me being on death row, i see there are some guys that have strong innocence claims, and i cant look at them as the worst of the worst. I just cant. Do you think youre going to get a stay . Im optimistic, the evidence is there. If the courts are willing to acknowledge this. I really, im optimistic and i have faith. That it is possible. I dont entertain the thought of being executed. I dont. If it happens, it happens, but im not looking for that to happen. I mean the evidence speaks for itself. The state knows, they know, this evidence has always been out there. It should not have taken this long. When you have a prosecutor with unlimited resources and the county, your Law Enforcement agencies, the texas rangers, all of these people involved in this investigation and you tell me this evidence was not compiled in the right fashion to where you would know the truth. It is not right. Well much more of my interview with rodney reed on death row and an indepth look at his case next month asking the question a texas court will now be looking at. Is the state of texas trying to execute a man for a crime he did not commit . You do not want to miss this. Es. Mr. Cleans magic eraser. Esurance was born online. Which means fewer costs, which saves money. Their Customer Experience is virtually paperless which saves paper, which saves money. They have smart online tools so you only pay for whats right for you which saves money. 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