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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes June 5, 2015

Anything like that. All inall in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes and rick perry is back. Each day americans demonstrate tremendous courage, but many of those americans have been knocked down and they are looking for a Second Chance. Lets give them that Second Chance. Lets give them real leadership. Lets give them a future greater than the greatest days of our past. Lets give them a president who leads us in the direction of our highest dreams. Former Texas Governor entered the republican president ial race today inside a sweltering airplane hanger outside of dallas making the announcement in front of a c 130 plane in blazed with the words perry for president. He was surrounded by military veterans and families including Navy Seals Marcus and morgan and the taya kyle the widow of chris kyle. Many in the crowd wore cowboy hats and perry himself exchanged cowboy boots for black loafers. Now starts thick black glasses unlike his 2012 campaign. Perry has his own country rap theme song we dropped the lyrics to sing at home. Thank you and god bless you. Its easy to forget how strong perry came out of the gate in his 2012 president ial run, the longtime governor of a large state with strong job growth and support from the money and establishment of the gop base perry zoomed to the front of the pact in august 2011 but he put in by all accounts a terrible performance as a candidate which was an iconic debate moment. Its three agencies of government that are gone. Commerce, education, whats the third one . You cant name the third one. The third agency of the government i would do away with the education, the [ laughter ] commerce. And lets see. Oh, my. I cant. The third one i cant, sorry. [ laughter ] oops. [ laughter ] oh my god, that tape. Perry has to contend with the memories of his disastrous performance as well as a controversial indictment as home state that could require him to leave the campaign trail to head to a texas court. Joining me from dallas casey hunt at rick perrys announcement today and casey, from a sort of stage craft perspective, it seemed like the event came off well. The sweltering heat and sweatiness aside. The sweltering heat and sweatiness aside, yes, chris. They tried to be prepared for how hot it was going to be. They had several giant air conditioners in the back but they werent getting the job done. They did hand attendees fans but perry had to sweat it out front and center for everyone. Other than that you know, one of the more dramatic backdrops weve seen for Something Like this and a heavy focus on the military biography and thats new for his 2016 bid from 2012. He mentioned he was a veteran quite a bit in the last campaign but wasnt a center piece and he does have an authentic connection to many of those military veterans standing on stage with him. Marcus latrle one of them. He lived with governor perry and anita perry at the Governors Mansion as he was coming back from combat in iraq and afghanistan. It did strike me whereas the lead message of governor perry, the last time around was about the texas miracle, socalled texas miracle about texas economic performance, this much much more focused on Foreign Policy military and veterans his record and veterans on stage, the that was not, it really was not the front and center lead branding for the Perry Campaign in 2012. Chris, i think it reflect as broader shift, as well. That was something that applied to the republican field. You had mitt romney running on Economic Issues, much of what the country was focused on. I highlights how the issues shifted and i think isis is front and center in the campaign talking about president obamas Foreign Policy and republicans perceive to be weakness on the front and i think the Perry Campaign season opening here there arent very many military veterans for a country that, you know, had elected military veterans as president for years and years basically up until bill clinton and president obama, you know this is a field thats devoid largely of military experience perry and senator gram are the only two. Governor perry should talk to john kerry about how well that necessarily works. Casey hunt thank you very much. Thanks chris. Joining me from austin evan smith, evan we were going back through the 2012, sort of following the clippings of the 2012 incredible rise and fall of governor rick perrys president ial candidate. Why was that such a disaster and what should lead anyone to believe that disaster will not be repeated once hes off prompter and not giving a prepared speech and doing things he proved himself incapable of doing on the trail the last time around . The two big issues last time is his health was not good and preparedness was not good. Beyond thanks it went perfectly. His record as you said as governor of texas, the economic record particularly was very strong and a lot of us thought that would be enough to carry him to the top of the pact but he blew it. The problem was he blew it in a very weak field, and his big challenge in this election chris, i would say is not simply being better prepared and for healthy but realize income a field of 15 or 20 republicans, even the worst of whom is better that some of the best last time. Hes going to have to figure out how to stand out, the veterans think today was one thing and i would agree with you. It was definitely interesting to see that as his focus but he needs to differentiate himself from a lot of the people in washington and started to do that some today by highlighting executive experience as opposed to speech making on the floor. That will be a big feature of his campaign. Here is that section of the speech when he calls out senators for making speeches as opposed to his record. Take a listen. Will be this when have you led . Leadership is not a speech on the senate floor. It is not what you say. It is what you have done. The issue here is interesting. Two things came together casey eluded to, the bite of Economic Issues for the Republican Party da dim diminished due to the fact they got their way on the deficit for awhile and thats been taken away from them. Perry harped on it today but it doesnt pull or charge voters away say back in 2010. Particularly others the texas miracle looks shaky. This is a few headlines, wall street journal texas economic hickup complicates rick perrys pitch. They lost jobs. It seems like that will be a little complicated for him in term thes ofs of making the case for the record. That march jobs number was the first negative in 53 months in texas. Texas survived the recession that a lot of you and the rest of the country, we here in texas survived as well as we did because of the oil and gas economy. Since oil and gas is on the turn down, we suffered. A president has to preside over among other things the economy and one knock against president obama was he didnt have any experience running anything and so when it came time to steady the economy in bad times, he didnt really have the chops to do it and perry will argue, look, 15 years, almost 15 years as governor, the net job growth in texas exceeded the other 49 states combined. Jeb bush creating jobs in florida, as well. Were not going to not hear perry talk about that. The biggest challenge as you talked about, people have got to forget about what happened in 2012. Perry said today the most optimistic person on earth is the dry land cotton farmer. No, thats someone who wants to run for president after pratfalling the way he did. You have to figure out how to have a Second Chance to make a First Impression and if he cant do that none of the rest of this stuff matters. A lot of scrutiny up front. I want to talk about scuttlebutt behind the wars and perry in texas, which is fascinating texas republican politics scuttlebutt. Well talk about that next time. Thank you. Thanks. Hes the tenth candidate and there are plenty more coming to participate in the first gop debate in august. A candidate needs to be in the top ten in polling. Right now perry just makes the cut polling in tenth place in the real clear politics average with 3 support. Joining me now, a man whom i bet you could get 3 support in a National Poll on this msnbc contributor, host of the majority report. I may throw my hat in the ring. Casey eluded to it, evan talked about it where lets remember the Value Proposition of the rick Perry Campaign back in 2012 which was great. It was basically mitt romney and the base doesnt like him and michelle and hermann cane im inplowsble nominees and here i am everybody and everyone was real excited. Right. And now he is like number three in all those slots. Except thats why we saw sort of the promotion of his military record, except in that one area. He has, there is no other governor who has his military service, and thats basically, when you talk about a race that there could very well be 15 people, 16 maybe 20 people in the race. I mean no joke. I cant believe were at ten already. And i think that, like there is still a couple of people who we dont know their names yet are actually considering to jump in. Once more do well see donald trump. Thats possible. Do you really think that will happen . I actually do. I think this is a situation where there is this is like the california recall. We talked about it. He, i think, is pushing the military experience as a way of differentiating himself. The glass is at one point someone would say i want to the see your prescription. Show it to us. That is such a naked attempt to get people to forget that hes governor. Youre talking about the pain medication in 2012 . The glasses. Oh the glasses. [ laughter ] and the attempt to get away from governor oops. Honestly. You think thats what its about . I think they are trying to project, this is not the goof ball on that stage. There may have been other reasons. There was rumors he was on pain medication. Pain medication. Nevertheless when you say we want to get rid of three Government Agencies and cant name them people think maybe your policy subscriptions are insincere. [ laughter ] and so why would they think that . All it is going to take, you know during that debate if hes there and tries to land a punch, someone will look at them and just say oops and the entire crowd is going to laugh and youre right back in the moment. And the other issue that he has is youve got this fascinating big state dynamic emerging now with the florida battle for florida donors and florida legions between jeb bush and marco rubio and in texas, youve got ted cruz and governor rick perry. Jeb bush also got involved in texas to a certain extent because thats his family. If you have experience of combing through the disclosures of someone fundraising, they start close to home. Literally, its the neighbors. Thats where they start. That will be a brutal game of thrones war for those fundraising dollars in the state of texas just between those two guys and the bush family. Everybody has to runaround and look for their billionaire now and nobody wants to be the person left without the chair when the music stops and frankly, i think thats in someways its interesting the way that its impacting our politics. I think a lot of what we saw from ran paul over the last couple weeks is a function of him striking out with billionaires and finding another way to raise money and to a certain extend that was helpful in term thes of our politics. There is an interesting, there is always sort of an idea governors have a better shot. Dont have a voting record. You have senators running 5 of one out of 20 senators are running but occurs to me that its easier to command National Attention from the senate in this crowded field than an ex governor. Thats the problem perry faces is that he cant make its hard for him to make news. Yeah and hes been out of politics for awhile. So not as long as jeb bush. Not as long as jeb bush and thats a manhandicap for jeb bush. Youre right. If youre senator, youre basically double dipping because you have people covering the campaign and youve got the people in washington in terms of outlets to get your earned media. Sam, thank you very much. Youve got a good longterm prospect in the leader board of fantasy draft but i think youre third or fourth. Im not worried. With rick perry officially joining the president ial race. Time for an update. First a reminder of the moment rick perry got picked. I think im going to go for the lowest number on the Board Strategy to, you know to explain number three. Prime number. Yeah. Three. Will it deliver for joy . Rick perry. [ applause ] rick perry, hes got three good reasons to run, but can only remember two. Whats the third one there . Lets see. The former governor of the Lone Star State is back but this time has four eyes on the prize. Today has been awesome, girl. Hes former Texas Governor rick perry. 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So far they do not think the cia covers have been blown. So far the Chinese Embassy has not returned our calls about the hacking. That was andrea mitchell. Joining me robert knake, the counsel on Foreign Relations at the National Security counsel at the white house. Robert, can you tell me first of all, how big a deal this is and how would you know how big a deal it is forensically . I dont think this is actually that much a bigger deal than the breaches at other commercial providers that lost similar information. This information is no different than the kind of credit identity information thats been stolen by criminal groups over the last year. What is going on now in term thes thes

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